Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Classic master cylinder problem. Re-sealing it might alone do the job, you don't know if the inside of the cyl is all rusty/nasty until you look. I have seen ones that failed after many years, that did _not_ have a bore problem. That may vary with your usage patterns, maintenance history, and

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Esh via Mercedes
Just received my new ATE Master Cylinder from Gary for my 85 300D. $119.00 delivered to my front door in three days. My Indy ruined mine when I had him install rear ATE calipers and pads.(From Gary) He flushed system and renewed fluid while tearing up seals. :( They seem to figure out a

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Randy wrote: It brakes but not very hard and pumping the pedal does not all that much to make it better. It feels like when one presses on the pedal while another bleeds the brakes. It just slowly descends until close to the floor. If not, then I suspect the master cylinder is leaking

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Here you go, Randy. http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=b3tbpv45pvq2g4mclkt5ua2mmakeid=800016@Mercedesmodelid=1193666@300Dyear=1976cid=master cylinder@master cylindergid=1836@Brake Master Cylinder On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What is the collective view on rebuilt units? If I could get a kit, I would have no qualms about putting it in but those days seem to be behind us. I guess it is the result of labour costs in the shops. People are not willing to pay the cost of having kits installed - just faster and cheaper

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I got a reman for like $40 for the 123. Not hard to put in, at that price you can go through a bunch, though not sure why a reman would not work, I think they just machine the bore and put in a slightly larger plunger or o-rings, nothing too magic about that. The one I got had a lifetime

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
What is the collective view on rebuilt units? If I could get a kit, I would have no qualms about putting it in but those days seem to be behind us. I guess it is the result of labour costs in the shops. People are not willing to pay the cost of having kits installed - just faster and cheaper

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I feel like rebuilding a very old brake MC like yours is at best going to be hit or miss, theres no telling how much corrosion is in there. I bet theres no oversized cups or sleeves available so after you hone you might still need to buy a replacement anyway... For this I'd say buy a rebuilt,

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh and I forgot to mention since this is a car that sits a lot when was the last time you changed the brake fluid? -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Thursday, June

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Randy, as you correctly surmised, these symptoms indicate a failed (interlally leaking) master cylinder. Fortunately, the part is not expensive and widely available, maybe even for a W115. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Winnipeg has

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Definitely master cylinder failure symptoms. Fluid is leaking past the cups on the piston. Dan On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Winnipeg has rivers going north south - The Red and east west - The Assiniboine so I thought that sort of

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger. Not a lot of slop in the hard lines to wiggle the fitting around. Then you have to

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 03:27 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger.  Not a lot of

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger. Not a lot of slop in the hard lines to wiggle the fitting around. Then you have to

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
DON'T use DOT3 BRAKE FLUID! Plan on buying a quart of DOT4 fluid and thoroughly flushing the lines and calipers. Traditionally, Castrol LMA/GT fluid was what to use, but it has become near unobtanium. You can consider switching to real DOT5 Silicone fluid, but it is scarce too. They