Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well you know what they say, you can wish in one had and, well, do 
something else in the other and see which one fills up the quickest


LT Don wrote:


I wish I had it NOW.

On 11/21/05, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 11/21/05 12:12 PM, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



10K for an 87 is too much IMO


Well, I sold mine two years ago for $6000.

I wish I had it back!

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Gabriel S.
KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.


IMO Kellys Blue Book is a very reputable source and has been in the vehicle
apprasial business for a very long time and I would think that they know a
thing or two about the value of vehicles. Whats next, Mercedes doesen't know
about cars. The fact that somone payed that amount of money for that car
(which is not perfect...has a dent on the roof) shows just how gullable you
humans are! =)


Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Whatever you say.

Gabriel S. wrote:


KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.




IMO Kellys Blue Book is a very reputable source and has been in the vehicle
apprasial business for a very long time and I would think that they know a
thing or two about the value of vehicles. Whats next, Mercedes doesen't know
about cars. The fact that somone payed that amount of money for that car
(which is not perfect...has a dent on the roof) shows just how gullable you
humans are! =)
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Gabriel S.
Whatever you say.



CAR FOR SALE!
1987 300D

Red, Leather Interior, Pioneer AM/FM CD Head unit, disk changer in trunk,
Ice cold AC, Runs strong, I have used Mobile 1 since I have owned it. Etc.
Original Mercedes Benz Roof Rack Included (just bought it).

$9,000.00 Firm


Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Marshall Booth

Gabriel S. wrote:

KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.



IMO Kellys Blue Book is a very reputable source and has been in the vehicle
apprasial business for a very long time and I would think that they know a
thing or two about the value of vehicles. Whats next, Mercedes doesen't know
about cars. The fact that somone payed that amount of money for that car
(which is not perfect...has a dent on the roof) shows just how gullable you
humans are! =)


KBB is rather about worthless to establish the value of a moderately 
scarce Mercedes - unless you are trying to scam someone.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:36:13PM -0800, Gabriel S. wrote:
 IMO Kellys Blue Book is a very reputable source and has been in the vehicle
 apprasial business for a very long time and I would think that they know a
 thing or two about the value of vehicles. Whats next, Mercedes doesen't know
 about cars. The fact that somone payed that amount of money for that car
 (which is not perfect...has a dent on the roof) shows just how gullable you
 humans are! =)

BZZZT, WRONG. If you knew anything about kelly blue book, and how their 
figures are gathered, you would not be saying that.

K



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:44:20PM -0800, Gabriel S. wrote:
 CAR FOR SALE!
 1987 300D
 
 Red, Leather Interior, Pioneer AM/FM CD Head unit, disk changer in trunk,
 Ice cold AC, Runs strong, I have used Mobile 1 since I have owned it. Etc.
 Original Mercedes Benz Roof Rack Included (just bought it).
 
 $9,000.00 Firm

too bad it's firm. you need to deduct for the pioneer deck, the disk changer,
and the fact that you have a #14 head and have overheated it. We were all on
the list when that happened.

K



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world. 
 End of subject.


Kevin wrote:


On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:36:13PM -0800, Gabriel S. wrote:


IMO Kellys Blue Book is a very reputable source and has been in the vehicle
apprasial business for a very long time and I would think that they know a
thing or two about the value of vehicles. Whats next, Mercedes doesen't know
about cars. The fact that somone payed that amount of money for that car
(which is not perfect...has a dent on the roof) shows just how gullable you
humans are! =)



BZZZT, WRONG. If you knew anything about kelly blue book, and how their 
figures are gathered, you would not be saying that.


K

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Gabriel S.
too bad it's firm. you need to deduct for the pioneer deck, the disk
changer,
and the fact that you have a #14 head and have overheated it. We were all on
the list when that happened.

Oh yeah, and my head is cracked (which it isn't) just like you all told me.


Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Marshall Booth wrote:
 
 KBB is rather about worthless to establish the value of a moderately
 scarce Mercedes - unless you are trying to scam someone.

Yeah, I want to go to dealer auctions and buy lots of those $300 trade
value 190 turbos. At least I think that was KBB trade in on a nice
car w/200k or so on it when I looked last year. I remember thinking
that I could buy three for book retail and still be OK if one of
them was good.



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread George Gregory
On 11/21/05 6:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world.
 End of subject.

This would be a POT KETTLE BLACK comment, but actually Mr Striplin is
showing amazing wisdom.

And he's not much older!

_
GG




Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

about 10 years older I would guess.

George Gregory wrote:


On 11/21/05 6:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world.
End of subject.



This would be a POT KETTLE BLACK comment, but actually Mr Striplin is
showing amazing wisdom.

And he's not much older!

_
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Gabriel S.
Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world.

See, there you go, with the insults, starting flame wars you fat fuck.


Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread James Zavesky
this isn't banned


- Original Message - 
From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car


 Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world.
 
 See, there you go, with the insults, starting flame wars you fat fuck.
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no, but he is.

James Zavesky wrote:

this isn't banned


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To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:07 PM
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Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world.


See, there you go, with the insults, starting flame wars 
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Way too much? It's GORGEOUS.

On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-XMRadio-Leather-Lots-Mechanical-Restored_W0QQitemZ4589060995QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Chuck Landenberger

So, GO FOR IT, Andrew!!!

Still have 46 minutes left to bid..  Solves the not so great  
mpg's in your current driver!


Chuck
Phoenix, AZ

On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


Way too much? It's GORGEOUS.

On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-XMRadio-Leather-Lots- 
Mechanical- 
Restored_W0QQitemZ4589060995QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Yup, that's a nice car!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/21/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, GO FOR IT, Andrew!!!

 Still have 46 minutes left to bid..  Solves the not so great
 mpg's in your current driver!

 Chuck
 Phoenix, AZ



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Way too much? It's GORGEOUS.

On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-XMRadio-Leather-Lots-Mechanical-Restored_W0QQitemZ4589060995QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything 
really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when cold 
(white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is 
good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they 
are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi 
on average in Pittsburgh.


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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread George Gregory
On 11/21/05 11:40 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything
 really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when cold
 (white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is
 good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they
 are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi
 on average in Pittsburgh.
 
 Marshall

Yes, that is a beautiful car and worth the money if, in addition to what Dr
Booth mentions, the AC is operative and the AC evaporators have been
replaced.

_
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Gabriel S.
10K for an 87 is too much IMO

On 11/21/05, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/21/05 11:40 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything
  really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when cold
  (white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is
  good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they
  are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi
  on average in Pittsburgh.
 
  Marshall

 Yes, that is a beautiful car and worth the money if, in addition to what
 Dr
 Booth mentions, the AC is operative and the AC evaporators have been
 replaced.

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
It might be, depending on how much mechanical work needs done over the
initial ownership year. I always budget 25 - 30 percent of the purchase
price no matter how seemingly perfect the used car appears to be. I don't
know anything about 124 wagons, however, so that leaves me out of the
bidding.

On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 10K for an 87 is too much IMO

 On 11/21/05, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 11/21/05 11:40 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything
   really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when
 cold
   (white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is
   good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they
   are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi
   on average in Pittsburgh.
  
   Marshall
 
  Yes, that is a beautiful car and worth the money if, in addition to what
  Dr
  Booth mentions, the AC is operative and the AC evaporators have been
  replaced.
 
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread George Gregory
On 11/21/05 12:12 PM, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 10K for an 87 is too much IMO

Well, I sold mine two years ago for $6000.

I wish I had it back!

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Gabriel S.
I think that those who own a wagon tend to 'puff' up it's value.


Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Rhonald Angelo

So..Andrew, did you get it?

Rhonald
1985 300D
280,000 miles
Washington, DC
Black/Palomino

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From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:40:08 -0500

andrew strasfogel wrote:
 Way too much? It's GORGEOUS.

 On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-XMRadio-Leather-Lots-Mechanical-Restored_W0QQitemZ4589060995QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything
really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when cold
(white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is
good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they
are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi
on average in Pittsburgh.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sometimes I do get it , but not this time.


 On 11/21/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm shocked at how CHEAP it went, considering what you were getting.
 Brand new leather on all the seats? That's insane. Actual dyno graphs
 proving no clogged ALDA plumbing, wow. It's still got R-12 (hooray!),
 Valentine-1 hardwire (nice bonus), resealed tranny, NEW radiator  AC
 compressor... the list goes on. If I had been in the market for a 87
 wagon, I would probably have bid much higher than what it sold for. I
 think the new owner practically stole it...

 Aaron, are you the lucky new owner? This would fit in nicely with your
 fleet!

 =)

 --
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 Boise, ID
 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship)
 1987 300D - 260kmi (Sportline)


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  Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:22:35 -0700
  From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
 
  So, GO FOR IT, Andrew!!!
 
  Still have 46 minutes left to bid.. Solves the not so great
  mpg's in your current driver!
 
  Chuck
  Phoenix, AZ
 
  On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
 
   Way too much? It's GORGEOUS.
  
   On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4589060995

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Gabriel S.
I'm shocked at how CHEAP it went, considering what you were getting.
Brand new leather on all the seats? That's insane. Actual dyno graphs
proving no clogged ALDA plumbing, wow. It's still got R-12 (hooray!),
Valentine-1 hardwire (nice bonus), resealed tranny, NEW radiator  AC
compressor... the list goes on. If I had been in the market for a 87
wagon, I would probably have bid much higher than what it sold for. I
think the new owner practically stole it...


That car isn't even worth even $4,000. Whoever payed 10K for it got ripped
off. Here is how its appraised in the kelly blue book:

*$3,615 - in excellent condition with all options (including leather)*

http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.ur?kbb.CO;224801;CO03781632;+p722;Mercedes-Benz;1987%20300TD19;MB;AF;


Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.

Gabriel S. wrote:


I'm shocked at how CHEAP it went, considering what you were getting.


Brand new leather on all the seats? That's insane. Actual dyno graphs
proving no clogged ALDA plumbing, wow. It's still got R-12 (hooray!),
Valentine-1 hardwire (nice bonus), resealed tranny, NEW radiator  AC
compressor... the list goes on. If I had been in the market for a 87
wagon, I would probably have bid much higher than what it sold for. I
think the new owner practically stole it...


That car isn't even worth even $4,000. Whoever payed 10K for it got ripped
off. Here is how its appraised in the kelly blue book:

*$3,615 - in excellent condition with all options (including leather)*

http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.ur?kbb.CO;224801;CO03781632;+p722;Mercedes-Benz;1987%20300TD19;MB;AF;
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Loren Faeth
Tell me where I can buy good 87 300TD for $3615, and I will buy a dozen, 
because I know the market price is higher.  In fact the last guy I 
contacted was selling one for a grand higher than that price, and he RAISED 
the price and sold it within a few days.  The previous ones on ebay went 
for ~ $9K range.


The one recently listed on ebay is a rustbucket, as are several others less 
than 8K.


KBB and NADA are always suspect when it comes to imported cars and 
ESPECIALLY diesels.  What is their source of info?  It is the big dealers 
of Detroit iron.  These dealers have no interest in diesel cars.  If they 
get one, they want it OFF their lot YESTERDAY, if not sooner.  They won't 
sell it to you or I for a KBB price, but they will unload it somewhere 
(auction) and will report a low price because they don't want to mess with 
them unless they make a ton of money on the transaction.  (They will give 
little or nothing as trade-in, or mask the low trade-in value in the high 
price of the SUV you buy.)  Sthewayitworks


The facts are
1. MB Diesels have great reliability
2. MB Diesels have great longevity
3. MB Diesels with (ultra-reliable) mechanical fuel injection have not been 
made since the OM 60x engines

4. There is no MB diesel wagon available in the US newer than 1987
5. MB wagons are versatile and useable
6. MB wagons are the safest out there. (some might argue that volvos 
are)  Either are head and shoulders above the rest.


For my money, a really good TD or SDL is worth more than any detriot iron 
or riceburner
It is nothing new.  In the mid 70s, the book price on a 220D was $2500, 
but you could not buy one for less than $4000



That car isn't even worth even $4,000. Whoever payed 10K for it got ripped
off. Here is how its appraised in the kelly blue book:

*$3,615 - in excellent condition with all options (including leather)*

http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.ur?kbb.CO;224801;CO03781632;+p722;Mercedes-Benz;1987%20300TD19;MB;AF;
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Dave M.
Book values are meaningless, and usually way low, for cars that are
rare and/or were imported in limited numbers. I think there were maybe
1500 diesel wagons imported to the USA back in 1987 and I bet less
than 5% remaining today are anywhere near as clean as this one. That
was also the last year Mercedes imported ANY diesel wagon to the USA.
I would have expected it to sell for mid-teens since it was almost
entirely restored. $3615 wouldn't even cover the cost of the *parts*
that were recently installed on that car. If you want the ultimate
diesel wagon in the USA, you have exactly one choice... from almost 20
years ago.

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 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:33:14 -0800
 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car


 That car isn't even worth even $4,000. Whoever payed 10K for it got ripped
 off. Here is how its appraised in the kelly blue book:

 *$3,615 - in excellent condition with all options (including leather)*



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Luther Gulseth
the real question iswould Kaleb have paid $10k for that car in said 
condition?  If he says yes, it's worth it and more.

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 21, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Would I, no.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


the real question iswould Kaleb have paid $10k for that car in said 
condition?  If he says yes, it's worth it and more.

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 21, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Loren Faeth

Naaa,  Kaleb's limit is $500

At 04:55 PM 11/21/2005, you wrote:
the real question iswould Kaleb have paid $10k for that car in said 
condition?  If he says yes, it's worth it and more.


-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 21, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.



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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Hans Neureiter
I remember it being $ 200.

On 11/21/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Naaa, Kaleb's limit is $500

 At 04:55 PM 11/21/2005, you wrote:
 the real question iswould Kaleb have paid $10k for that car in said
 condition? If he says yes, it's worth it and more.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Nov 21, 2005 5:02 PM
 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
 
 KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars.
 
 
 
 Luther KB5QHU
 Alma, Ark
 '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
 '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
 
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-11-21 Thread Marshall Booth

Gabriel S. wrote:

I think that those who own a wagon tend to 'puff' up it's value.


They are worth EXACTLY what what people will pay for them - NOT what you 
or I THINK they are worth!


Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-16 Thread redghost

It is a former engine, it has shuffled off this mortal coil

On Sunday, August 14, 2005, at 07:39 PM, LT Don wrote:


This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:

this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run  
again


I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased.

Don

On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel- 
1985-Mercedes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not- 
run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:

this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again

I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased. 

Don

On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel-1985-Mercedes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not-run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
Emailed the seller about the wrong choice of words and had this
interesting thing come up on the Ask A Question form:

The user you are contacting is registered on another eBay site and
may speak a different language. Your message will be sent exactly as
typed below.

Does that raise a red flag for anyone else besides me? 

On 8/14/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:
 
 this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again
 
 I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased.
 
 Don
 
 On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel-1985-Mercedes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not-run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
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76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread Steve MacSween
No, no red flag if the seller has a rating of 2107 with 99.6 percent
positive feedback.

Look at her company name, down below in the listing, sounds Polish. Maybe
she has her company 'home' eBay account in eastern Europe, for tax reasons.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Emailed the seller about the wrong choice of words and had this
 interesting thing come up on the Ask A Question form:
 
 The user you are contacting is registered on another eBay site and
 may speak a different language. Your message will be sent exactly as
 typed below.
 
 Does that raise a red flag for anyone else besides me?
 
 On 8/14/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:
 
 this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again
 
 I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased.
 
 Don
 
 On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel-1985-Merc
 edes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not-run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328Q
 QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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