Re: Mersenne: TI-92 Factoring, again

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
If it really is that bad, then it's probably not worth doing. I once tested all the prime exponent Mersennes with exponents from about 10 million thru about 21 million for factors smaller than 2^33 or so, using mersfacgmp on a Pentium 90MHz, in a couple of days. The factoring program I used

Re: Mersenne: primitive factors (was :-( TI factoring is slow)

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
Will Edgington commented: Chris Nash writes: The smallest factor of 2^p-1, p a prime, is at least as big as 2p+1. All factors of a Mersenne number of prime exponent are of the form 2kp+1 - similarly for all 'new' factors of a composite exponent (ie that haven't appeared in any

Mersenne: TI-92 Factoring, again

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using the wonderful modpwr() from Paul Pollack's NTH library for the TI-92, I have quickly verified the following results I found on Entropia.com: [...] Good.:) For each of them, the TI-92 quickly returned that 2^exponent mod factor = 1, and very

Re: Mersenne: :-( TI factoring is slow

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
However, a semi-reasonable task would be to test numbers for factors up to 2^16. Done. Pitiful, I know, but a TI could test a single number in 12 hours. An optimized algorithm will do it in about zero seconds. B) To Mr. Woltman or Mr. Kurowski - how "useful" would factoring (most likely

Re: Mersenne: Mersenne Primes - what'd you expect?

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
Foghorn Leghorn writes: Could you factor a Mersenne number without storing it in memory? (Answer: I don't *think* so) Ptoo bad. If we could factor Mersenne numbers on an unmodified TI-92+, then there'd be a lot of people who'd run that program. Uh, that's exactly what

Mersenne: TI Factoring

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, is this: (2^p mod f) - 1 Congruent to this: (2^p -1) mod f Yes, though be careful about the case of 2^p mod f being 0. The first will give you -1 and the second is f-1. They are congruent, mod f, of course, but not identical. This is doubly

Mersenne: TI-92 Factoring, again

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
Using the wonderful modpwr() from Paul Pollack's NTH library for the TI-92, I have quickly verified the following results I found on Entropia.com: 7017133 61 F 1901619961404080441 14-May-99 11:35 jay2001 PII_40 7029787 62 F 3764452186385609519 31-May-99

Mersenne: Mersenne exponent growth

1999-06-19 Thread Jud McCranie
There is a conjecture that the nth Mersenne exponent resulting in a prime is approximately (3/2)^n. Consider Mersenne primes through M37. (I don't know exactly what M38 is yet, and there may be other small ones. Also, the double checks of the range through M37 haven't been completed.) You can

Re: Mersenne: More factoring..

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
Also, to ease finding factors, using a number which is a multiple of 8 is a good idea. However, how much work has been done on checking other mods other than 120? Like 80, or even 720 to see what happens? just wondering... As often happens (to me at least), as soon as I tell someone

RE: Mersenne: Mersenne 3/2 conjecture

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
If you take the following comma delimited file into a spreadsheet, and graph it (say with a line chart) it shows the relationship of Mersenne exponents to their index, for the first 37 Mersenne primes. The first column is the log of (3/2)^n, the second column is the log of the exponent of

Re: Mersenne: TI-92 Factoring, again

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
Brian J. Beesley writes: If it really is that bad, then it's probably not worth doing. I once tested all the prime exponent Mersennes with exponents from about 10 million thru about 21 million for factors smaller than 2^33 or so, using mersfacgmp on a Pentium 90MHz, in a couple

RE: Mersenne: A nice little bit of press

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
For those of you who read PC Magazine, there is a short column by Bill Machrone in the July 1999 issue on page 85 that talks about GIMPS, Aaron Blosser, and the US West episode. Not a detailed examination of what happened but some good press on why you might want to participate in such a

Mersenne: Factoring and M38

1999-06-19 Thread Anonymous
Well, looks like factoring on TI calculators won't be feasible or useful. :-( Before more data comes in, I'd like to state that I believe three things: A) The 38th Mersenne prime discovered has an exponent in the neighborhood of 6,900,000. B) We *are* missing a Mersenne prime between 3021377