Dual CPU usage (was: Re: Mersenne: Best chance to make a real contribution?)

2000-01-23 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On 22 Jan 00, at 15:44, St. Dee wrote: This brings up something I've been wondering about. I have a dual Celeron setup running 2 instances of mprime under Linux. With both processors crunching on LL tests, I get iteration times for each processor of around .263 for exponents around 899

Re: Mersenne: Best chance to make a real contribution?

2000-01-23 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On 22 Jan 00, at 11:35, Gerry Snyder wrote: But finding a factor (or another factor) of a Mersenne number would seem more real. Is there any significant probability that two 500 MHz Celerons and one 333 MHz Celeron could accomplish such a feat in a couple of years? Depends where you look

Re: Mersenne: Factoring beyond ECM

2000-01-23 Thread Hans-Martin Anger
LiDIA is a free package for long number arithmetic. It includes a demo-program for factoring numbers with trial factoring, ECM and MPQS successive. See here: http://www.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/TI/LiDIA/Welcome.html regards Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Foghorn Leghorn [EMAIL

Mersenne: Odds on finding a factor ?

2000-01-23 Thread Alex Phillips
Dear List-reader, I've been running Prime95 on my PII-400 at work, since December, and I'm currently on my second LL test ! And I've also been running it on my Celeron366 Laptop at home (When my wife isn't playing Settlers 3). I decided to make the Laptop do Factoring, and

RE: Mersenne: Odds on finding a factor ?

2000-01-23 Thread Aaron Blosser
From a quick browse through the top 101-500 producer list (it's the one I'm in:) it looks like the odds say you can expect 10-15 factors per P90 year spent on factoring. Based on my own stats, I've got 13.959 P90 years spent factoring, with 177 factors found. That's 12-13 per P90 year, so

Re: Mersenne: Odds on finding a factor ?

2000-01-23 Thread George Woltman
Hi, At 02:28 PM 1/23/00 -, Alex Phillips wrote: I've factored five numbers, all in the 1165-1166 range, as allocated by Primenet, without finding a factor. So my question is, What are the odds on finding a factor ? Since these exponents are already factored to 2^52 and you

Mersenne: Size of largest prime factor

2000-01-23 Thread Pierre Abbat
If I pick a huge number n at random, how much smaller than n, on average, is its largest prime factor? phma _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ --

Re: Mersenne: Size of largest prime factor

2000-01-23 Thread Jud McCranie
At 03:48 PM 1/23/00 -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: If I pick a huge number n at random, how much smaller than n, on average, is its largest prime factor? On the average, the largest prime factor of n is n^0.6065, and the second largest is n^0.2117. Reference: Knuth, the Art of Computer

Mersenne: NFSNET

2000-01-23 Thread Conrad Curry
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, George Woltman wrote: Finding new factors of small Mersennes, so called Cunningham factors, is getting more difficult. ECMNet and GIMPS have picked off most of the "easy" factors. I have two CPUs running ECM full-time. The last Cunningham factor I found was last

RE: Mersenne: Size of largest prime factor

2000-01-23 Thread Kyle Evans
But (assuming n is composite) no prime factor of n can be greater than n^0.5. So how can n^0.6065 be the average? (I hope I'm not showing my idiocy here! :) Kyle Evans (newbie on this list) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jud McCranie

RE: Mersenne: Size of largest prime factor

2000-01-23 Thread Kyle Evans
Never mind. My idiocy is admitted. :) It's the LOWEST prime factor that can't exceed n^0.5. Sorry for the trouble. Kyle E. -Original Message- From: Kyle Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 4:51 PM To: Jud McCranie; Pierre Abbat Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mersenne: Size of largest prime factor

2000-01-23 Thread Lucas Wiman
But (assuming n is composite) no prime factor of n can be greater than n^0.5. So how can n^0.6065 be the average? (I hope I'm not showing my idiocy here! :) No, that's not correct. If n is composite, then it *must have* a prime factor n^.5, but it can (though not always) have one larger

RE: Mersenne: Size of largest prime factor

2000-01-23 Thread Jud McCranie
At 04:51 PM 1/23/00 -0600, Kyle Evans wrote: But (assuming n is composite) no prime factor of n can be greater than n^0.5. So how can n^0.6065 be the average? I'm not assuming that n is composite. Some of them are prime, and in that case the largest prime number is the number itself, and that

Mersenne: L-L Performance On PII/PIII XEON With 1M or 2M Cache

2000-01-23 Thread Stefan Struiker
Team M: Has there been a reported run of MPrime on a PII/PIII XEON with at least 1M cache? If so what, if any, was the improvement? Regards, Stefan S.

Re: Re: Mersenne: Odds on finding a factor ?

2000-01-23 Thread Dave Mullen
If you're factoring numbers in the 1165-1166 (bit) range, the first factor could be anywhere in the root(1165) - root(1166) range i.e. 3413 - 3414 bits long !! George's system prechecks to 2^52, and you are checking 2^52 - 2^64. There's still a long way from 2^64 to 2^3413

Re: Re: Mersenne: Odds on finding a factor ?

2000-01-23 Thread Lucas Wiman
If you're factoring numbers in the 1165-1166 (bit) range, the first factor could be anywhere in the root(1165) - root(1166) range i.e. 3413 - 3414 bits long !! No, in the x-y bit range (remember that n bit integers are about 2^n) the first factor could be x/2 to y/2 bits long

Mersenne: Re : Odd's on finding a factor (part 2)

2000-01-23 Thread Dave Mullen
Sorry, I'm no mathematician, and new to the Mersenne field. No, in the x-y bit range (remember that n bit integers are about 2^n) thefirst factor could be x/2 to y/2 bits long (powers of a power multiply). What I was trying to say in my disjointed way was ... (Example) M11 = 2047 (11