Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Definition

2003-01-28 Thread Richard Woods
Aaron wrote: > For the most part though, it seemed that once upon a time there was > a problem with poachers who just took small exponents from people > who were actually still working on them, and simply ran them on a > faster machine or something. That's the sort of thing that gives > us "respec

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #1039

2003-01-28 Thread Richard Woods
Gordon Spence wrote: >> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:28:04 -0500 >> From: "Richard Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Poaching -- Definition (was: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #1038) >> >> Paul Missman wrote: >>> I know that this might be earth shattering news for you, >>> but there is no suc

Re: Mersenne: Re: poaching

2003-01-28 Thread Richard Woods
Paul Missman wrote: > I do wonder at your assertion that, were I to discover a large > prime by a self written program, I would have to publish the > program along with the discovered prime. I'd imagine that, as > long as the number could be verified by independent means, it > would be an publisha

Re: SV: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....

2003-01-28 Thread Mary K. Conner
At 01:19 AM 1/29/03 +0100, =?utf-8?Q?Torben_Schl=C3=BCntz?= wrote: 17914693 at helly will expire very soon according to the 60 days rule. And I can't do anything about it. It just will happen. No biggee. I think I've already picked up and completed one of helly's expiries. Most likely

Re: Mersenne: Re: poaching

2003-01-28 Thread Paul Missman
Hi Ernst!   You bring up an interesting point about the software, I suppose.  I never thought that George or Scott considered the software proprietary.  I'd think that a basic Lucas-Lehmer type software could be written without too much headache, though I've never tried my hand at it.   I do

SV: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....

2003-01-28 Thread Torben Schlüntz
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Re: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....

2003-01-28 Thread George Woltman
At 10:02 AM 1/28/2003 -0800, you wrote: Far be it from me to tell you that you are wrong, but that is not at all consistent with what I observe with my own exponents. For instance, exponent 19373911 shows a 9 right now, it connected a short while ago and the machine is early in the 66 bit pass

Mersenne: Re: poaching

2003-01-28 Thread EWMAYER
Ah, nothing to get one's sluggish blood moving than a juicy discussion about poaching and other number-theoretic high crimes. Spike66 (Hiya, Spike!) wrote >Please, fellow math lovers, do let us get >things in the proper perspective here.  GIMPS >is just for fun. Yes, but like most other recreati

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #1039

2003-01-28 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 06:08, Mary K. Conner wrote: > > I'm speaking of triple or higher checks where all residues > agree. The only reason to do those other than the exponents that have only > 16 bit residues is to check for cheating. If those kinds of checks need to > be done, they ought to

Re: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....

2003-01-28 Thread George Woltman
Thanks for the insight that some of these exponents might be reporting no progress because they were manually reserved and running on a UNIX or MAC box. I've pruned the list a little bit and released the exponents. _ Unsubscr

Re: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....

2003-01-28 Thread Mary K. Conner
At 10:08 AM 1/28/03 -0500, George Woltman wrote: At 09:36 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, Mary K. Conner wrote: Garo identified some Team_Prime_Rib exponents in there. I'll exempt all Team_Prime_Rib exponents Looking at the other exponents in the factoring range I'm not worried about reclaiming factori

Re: red light - green light (was Re: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....)

2003-01-28 Thread Mary K. Conner
At 10:00 AM 1/28/03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The tsc machines show some very odd behavior. The exponents do a "red > light, green light" game. One exponent I've been following started at 5, > went to 2, back up to 5, then ran all the way up to 15 before dropping back > to nothing an

Re: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....

2003-01-28 Thread George Woltman
At 09:36 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, Mary K. Conner wrote: Garo identified some Team_Prime_Rib exponents in there. I'll exempt all Team_Prime_Rib exponents Looking at the other exponents in the factoring range I'm not worried about reclaiming factoring assignments right now. The tsc machines show

red light - green light (was Re: Mersenne: An officially sanctioned poach....)

2003-01-28 Thread Norbert . Pfannerer
> The tsc machines show some very odd behavior. The exponents do a "red > light, green light" game. One exponent I've been following started at 5, > went to 2, back up to 5, then ran all the way up to 15 before dropping back > to nothing and now it shows a 1. Others are similarly dancing aro