Re: Mersenne: ECM Question...

2001-05-22 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Alexander Kruppa wrote: gp_p(x) | go_p, and p+1-sqrt(p) = go_p = p+1+sqrt(p) . Since go_p(x) Correction: I have taken the limits above from my memory which has once again proved itself untrustworthy. The correct limits are p+1-2*sqrt(p) go_p = p+1+2*sqrt(p) , a theorem by Haase, which I

Re: Mersenne: ECM Question...

2001-05-21 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Steve Phipps wrote: While we're on the subject, can someone explain how to derive the group order for factors found using ECM? I've been carrying out ECM on an old PC for almost a year now, and I'd like to be able to derive, and factorise, the group orders for the factors that I've found.

Re: Mersenne: ECM Question...

2001-05-17 Thread Steve Phipps
While we're on the subject, can someone explain how to derive the group order for factors found using ECM? I've been carrying out ECM on an old PC for almost a year now, and I'd like to be able to derive, and factorise, the group orders for the factors that I've found. I've been making an effort

Re: Mersenne: ECM Question...

2001-05-16 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Eric Hahn wrote: If a person runs an ECM test using a B1 of 250,000 with 700 curves (for up to 30 digits), will they also find any factors that they would have found if they had used a B1 of 50,000 with 300 curves (for up to 25 digits) ?!? Eric If the sigma is the same, then a curve

Re: Mersenne: ECM question

1999-05-12 Thread Alex Kruppa
Hi all, I have a different question concerning P-1 and ECM. Some time ago I asked which power to put small primes into when multiplying them into E ( factor = gcd(a^E-1,N) ). Paul Leyland, I believe, replied that the power for prime p should be trunc( ln(B1) / ln(p) ) ( log(B1) with base p ),

RE: Mersenne: ECM question

1999-05-07 Thread Paul Leyland
The function being minimized, namely probability of finding a 50-digit factor on one curve - time per curve is flat near its minimum. Implementation and platform differences can obviously affect the denominator

RE: Mersenne: ECM question

1999-05-06 Thread Paul Leyland
At Paul Zimmerman's ECM page, http://www.loria.fr/~zimmerma/records/ecmnet.html the optimal B1 value listed for finding 50-digit factors is 4300, but George's ECM factoring page uses 4400 for the same purpose. Is one of them wrong, or is there a reason for the difference?

Mersenne: ECM question

1999-05-05 Thread Foghorn Leghorn
At Paul Zimmerman's ECM page, http://www.loria.fr/~zimmerma/records/ecmnet.html the optimal B1 value listed for finding 50-digit factors is 4300, but George's ECM factoring page uses 4400 for the same purpose. Is one of them wrong, or is there a reason for the difference?