Re: Mersenne: End of list
for the continuation of the list, we'll need a new name... I'm suggesting... [EMAIL PROTECTED] is that good for everyone? What are these new names. Is this where majordome(or whatever mailing list manager you will use) will reside? And I want to add my appreciation to Gordon for his long service. yes. it will be a 'Mailman' based list, which uses a webpage for subscribe/unsubscribe and administrative functions (you CAN still do it via email if you want, but the web interface is much easier to deal with). I've actually got the list setup and ready to go, but am still waiting for the DNS to be setup for lists.mersenne.org, and then we'll run a day or so of private testing, and go 'live' with the full subscriber list. I think it would be confusing to launch the new list with a temporary name, then change it a few days later. also, to all you existing subscribers who currently get the digest form... you may have to re-opt for that after I setup the new list, I'll explain this when the time comes. and, yes, Kudos to Gordon, he's run this list for quite a long time... My archives show I got on it in August 1996, and it was already in progress then, so its at least 8 years old, which is nearly forever in Internet years... _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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Howdy, What are these new names. Is this where majordome(or whatever mailing list manager you will use) will reside? And I want to add my appreciation to Gordon for his long service. Good day, Ralph On Wed, 2004-04-28, John R Pierce wrote: for the continuation of the list, we'll need a new name... I'm suggesting... [EMAIL PROTECTED] is that good for everyone? it may temporarily be [EMAIL PROTECTED] until the DNS can be setup for the above. _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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At 11:30 AM 4/22/2004 -0700, Gordon Irlam wrote: FYI. I intend to end this list shortly. for the continuation of the list, we'll need a new name... I'm suggesting... [EMAIL PROTECTED] is that good for everyone? it may temporarily be [EMAIL PROTECTED] until the DNS can be setup for the above. _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:05:20 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Web-based alternatives are extremely crappy compared to a mailing list, I couldn't agree more, so therefore just a quick word of thanks to you who will be taking over the running of the list now - it is much appreciated! /Per Jessen, Zurich _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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If you are going to archive and publish past postings, please be sure that any email addresses get obfuscated so that they can't be harvested by spammers. I just switched email addresses because I was getting so much spam, and I would hate to have to do it again. the archives are generally set to 'subscriber only', so you have to be a list subscriber to read them. this has kept the spam harvesters at bay on my other lists. but, I'll leave the archive option off. say, who runs the DNS for mersenne.org ? $ host -t NS mersenne.org mersenne.org name server sbsidns01.sbsi-net.com. if they set their MX to point to my list server, I can host this list as something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. alternately, they could create a MX for `lists.mersenne.org`, and we could be like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some such... ok, the domain is registered to George Woltman... so he'd have to contact sbsi-net to do this. _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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John R Pierce wrote: the archives are generally set to 'subscriber only', so you have to be a list subscriber to read them. this has kept the spam harvesters at bay on my other lists. but, I'll leave the archive option off. Do you mean you won't archive the list at all? -- Robin Millette (aka Lord D. Nattor) http://rym.waglo.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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At 10:38 AM 4/23/2004 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: say, who runs the DNS for mersenne.org ? ok, the domain is registered to George Woltman... so he'd have to contact sbsi-net to do this. Contact Scott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] He'll need to do whatever is required. _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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Gordon Irlam wrote: FYI. I intend to end this list shortly. When it was established some 10 years ago, other venues for discussing these issues did not exist, and could not easily be created. Now other venues and mailing lists exist. Thanks for hosting it for such a long time! It's been a pleasure to hear about 4 or 5 record primes here over the years. I can offer to host the lists, as I already host a few for different projects. Let me know if this would be appreciated. -- Robin Millette (aka Lord D. Nattor) http://rym.waglo.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 11:30:18AM -0700, Gordon Irlam wrote: FYI. I intend to end this list shortly. Sad, but it hasn't been all that high-volume lately, and I understand the problems hosting it. I haven't been here for all that long (umm, I can't remember for how long :-) ), but it's been fun, and I doubt I'm the only one who have learned quite a bit from the discussions (although most have been way over my head). :-) Web-based alternatives are extremely crappy compared to a mailing list, though, but that seems to be the state of the Internet currently... /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
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Thanks for running it for so long Gordon. I have a mailman installation that I would be willing to donate if no one else has a better system. I can't promise 100% uptime, but I will do my best to minimize the downtime. If no one else volunteers within a few days, I'll go ahead and set it up. Then I just need the member list, preferably with one address per line. That is, if there is still interest in having a list. Andrew Ryan Malayter wrote: What are the alternatives? Yahoo! Groups? Gordon, could you export the member list into a new yahoo group if need be? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Irlam Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: End of list FYI. I intend to end this list shortly. When it was established some 10 years ago, other venues for discussing these issues did not exist, and could not easily be created. Now other venues and mailing lists exist. The cost to me of maintaining this list are two fold: - the need to maintain a server connected to the Internet (higher connection costs; difficulty moving from house to house; and need to worry about system reliability and uptime) - time taken upgrading my system (need to upgrade from majordomo to mailman; and costs of maintaining the configuration from one upgrade to the next) Since alternatives exist, I am not making very much of a difference by hosting these lists, and I am doing so at significant cost. Hence my decision to end the list. I will allow discussion of alternative lists people may wish to join before closing this list. thanks, gordon (list admin) __ ___ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Andrew Hitchcock wrote: Thanks for running it for so long Gordon. I have a mailman installation that I would be willing to donate if no one else has a better system. I can't promise 100% uptime, but I will do my best to minimize the downtime. Same here, I can offer a mailman installation and we could share administrative/moderation tasks. Either way, the list will live on :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sounds good :) -- Robin Millette (aka Lord D. Nattor) http://rym.waglo.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Robin Millette wrote: I can offer to host the lists, as I already host a few for different projects. Let me know if this would be appreciated. Replying to myself... I see a few other serious offers on the table, so I'm going to assume somebody else will take over the list. If for some reason it doesn't work out, you know you can still ask me :) See you all on the other side :) -- Robin Millette (aka Lord D. Nattor) http://rym.waglo.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
