since it was released and have never had it crash or lock up
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new students to ldap. Darwin mc scripting (and thus, rev
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above could
be done in MetaCard (or Revolution.)
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time,
but it is true that I COULD market in more places if I have a cross platform
version. Darn! I do not enjoy working with Windows and was hoping to avoid
it but you make sense!
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Richard MacLemale wrote:
So I'm wondering if anyone might be willing to share
, and documentation would be worth the money. But
Open Source MetaCard could end up developing quite a following, too,
couldn't it? Some open source projects have gone on to become very
successful...
Am I reading this situation correctly?
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, especially under OS X.
Hopefully this will continue in the same manner under Revolution.
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had to. And he always slammed the Mac as a toy. After OS X came out, he
went out and bought two iMacs for his home.
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On 7/10/03 11:19 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote,
At 7:23 AM -0700 7/9/03, Richard MacLemale wrote:
Existing customers will get a free upgrade to Revolution with
their next subscription renewal.
Which is essentially a paid cross-grade. It means that the next time I get
a free
cross-grade. Instead, MetaCard/RunRev is going for another $300 to make it
happen. They're going to make some money and they're going to lose some
people. And some people they lose will come back, and some won't. In the
long run, which way is better for them? I don't know.
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, and that could be another 5 to 10 years. The only thing that could
possibly change my mind would be a free cross-grade. Otherwise, I don't see
me seriously considering Revolution.
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programmers, which is always a good
thing.
Lots to think about...
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textmessage.txt is a text file with the message.
When I run that in Terminal, it works PERFECTLY.
When I run it from a mc cgi script, I get an error message and it sends a
blank e-mail.
Has anyone come across (and solved) this problem before? And if so, how?
Thanks in advance for any help!
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, be extremely appreciated. :)
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that will be shared with other folks, I
try to write it in perl. But when I need to get a job done on our network,
I use mc.
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Richard, thanks for the perspective. What is darwin mc ??
Sadhu
It's the metacard engine for Darwin. You can slap it into your
CGI-EXECUTABLES folder and then write MetaTalk scripts to do cool CGI stuff.
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people don't take advantage of darwin mc. It's easy,
powerful, and free...
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Is it possible to hide the Dock when launching a MetaCard stack?
I don't see a specific command to do this, but you can use the key
combination command-option-D, and that works. So is there a way to cheat
and issue that key combination without telling the user to do it?
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be
there. There are some circumstances where you have to do that kind of
stuff, but I've been lucky enough in that I haven't had to resort to it.
Well, that and 90% of the work I do is on OS X Server Jaguar. :)
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, OS X, and Win 98 if you want to develop
for Mac and Windows.
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be on
their official site, but we'd have a promise that it wouldn't vanish in
the wind. My 2 bits per usual...
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for someone to
write a 400 page book by themselves, but if we all chip in, it's certainly
possible.
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It's there by default. Or rather, in our XP Pro machines it's there by
default. Can't speak for XP home edition because we don't have that (nor
will we ever.) Anything placed in the All Other Users/Desktop will show up
on all desktops.
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ideas on how I could make this work? I figured it couldn't
hurt to ask.
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mistake every Windows programmer
has ever made and put it into a program, and you've got this one. I'd love
to do something better. But I'll understand if it isn't possible.
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the go card line in
openstack, and that didn't work either - still had the jumping problem.
What is the best, easiest way to open a stack to a card other than card 1?
As usual, thanks in advance...
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a
preOpenStack message on card 1, which was overriding my stack level
preOpenStack message.
In which case, shouldn't MetaCard honor both preOpenStack scripts? It
doesn't, but moving the card preOpenStack script to the stack preOpenStack
script solved the problem.
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also to Wilhelm Sanke for his posted benchmarks about MC and multiple
fields. It does seem that MC can handle 2,000 - 3,000 fields pretty well.
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on a card? If there are problems with
this approach I can work around it, but I'm working on a project which would
really benefit from having 2000 fields, grouped together with scrollbars on
the group. Any input would be appreciated.
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rather use the cookie cutter if it's available.
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The script can write to a text file in the same directory as the stack.
Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? I do this all the time with plain text
files with no problem, but have never used stacks in this way.
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working with a stack, it's open/put/save/close.
I should have known it'd be something easy...
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tool, but got the same effect. So is there a mystery to this process, is
this a beta bug, did I miss something? Any help appreciated, as usual.
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. However, make sure that the script file you wrote is
saved with UNIX line breaks! Not Mac line breaks. If you haven't already,
grab a copy of Bbedit lite, which is free, free, free and awesome. It can
easily save your script with UNIX line breaks. I'd guess that's the
problem.
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that I'd be programming groupware on
a UNIX-based server. Ain't MetaCard great? :)
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But for other UNIX stuff where you are using shell(), you can use
\ which UNIX sees as a space. So Mac OS X and Mac\ OS\ X are seen as
the same thing by UNIX.
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is that MC 2.4.3 can issue shell commands 2 to 4 times faster than
doing it through AppleScript. VERY nice to be able to directly make the
calls. :)
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rather use MetaCard (OS X version.) There are a bunch of us who could write
some serious kick-ass apps if MC could do this.
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this list gotten a lot smaller since Revolution
was released? AND is it just me, or are the questions and issues here more
hardcore in general now? I'm wondering if all the newbies went to
Revolution, leaving us hardcores here to discuss cgi and xml...
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of folders...
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whoami, it returns root. But that's what the shell commands are run as,
NOT what the metatalk scripts are run as. I can get around this by using
shell commands to write files instead of metatalk commands (open file,
etc.), but the question remains. Anyone have the answer? :)
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Subject: mc cgi question
From: Richard MacLemale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OK, here's a question. When darwin mc is running, what is it running AS?
It can write to files with read/write (everyone), but cannot write to files
with read only
of it, and so you
have to explain to people what it is and what it does. And that's not a
huge disadvantage when you are the network admin, but it's probably no fun
when you are at the mercy on an internet provider.
And debugging is a pain in the butt. :)
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where I've
made a syntax error. Crude, but helpful.
Darwin mc is the coolest thing I've used in a long, long time. Between OS X
Server and Darwin mc, I've got the ability to schedule and automate just
about anything I want on our network. The more work the computer does, the
better.
:)
Richard
(with darwin mc running the script.) That's
really hacky, but you get the idea.
Has anyone walked down this path? I guess the usual methods of AppleScript
and AppleEvents are out, but maybe there's something (besides cron!) that
I'm missing?
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work. It works on Linux though so it must be a
Darwin thing.
OK - Scott Raney said you could do shell commands in darwin mc, and someone
else verified that you could, but the above script doesn't work, s...
What would be an example of a script that WOULD work?
Please?
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 Richard MacLemale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know that MetaCardCarbon does not honor shell (as in put shell(ls *)
into field 1)... Am I correct in assuming
for the reply. Things are rolling right along now. :)
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that function like normal, real
applications and the illusion is shattered by the big old MetaCard menu.
S there must be a way around this. Surely someone has solved this
problem already? What's the secret?
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like
stacks do running under MetaCard Carbon. Obviously if I'm building a
standalone application, I don't want it to be named MetaCard in the menu
bar. How do I change this?
Other than that, everything else seems very straightforward...
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, but then the widgets are built
with your vision...
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how to modify its
script so that I can just print a variable... But if someone else has
already done this, would you consider posting it here? If not, I'll post it
here after I've rewritten it. I just don't wanna reinvent that darned old
wheel, if I don't have to...
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, Tools, basically any window I
bring up) DO have the striped background, but the home stack itself has a
plain white background.
So is this atypical, or am I missing something?
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as the background of a stack? Aside from making a
tabbed button, that is. I guess I could do it by making a huge tabbed
button, taking a picture and saving it as a graphic which I could then
reuse, but if there's an easier way I'm all for learning it...
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, the question - How do you DO this? What are the step by step
instructions for installing the darwin mc engine? I've got the darwin.tar
file from the MC web site, and I know where the CGI folder is
(Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables).
Thanks very much in advance,
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site, and I know where the CGI folder is
(Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables).
Thanks very much in advance,
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.
But my app now opens the way it should and I am a happy camper. I write the
owner's manual today and the alpha version of this program will be tested
with live users tomorrow. Thanks again to the list for the fast help.
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to (by default) ignore height and location settings
in a preOpenStack handler. If it's supposed to be a feature, I'd disagree
and argue that it's a bug... anyone run across this before?
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?
I can test this all out at work, but was sorta hoping someone had already
walked down this path. I could see some cool local network gaming
possibilities for my school based on the answers to these questions...
Anyone know?
:)
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WebStar will
return any units that have that word in them. Cool!
XML in this case proved to be very, very useful!
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, and also some
other newbies, most of which would consider $499 to be expensive but not
unreasonable. The other piece to the puzzle is a beginner's book. But
that's another thread...
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taCard, whether it's a
permanent price drop or a temporary one. Those who would switch may have
switched already, as in maybe the handful of top notch HyperCard
programmers... your way would definitely be less expensive, this is true.
I guess it'd be better to try your way to see what happens...
story...)
So let's all lay off the HyperCard folks. Many of us here may look down on
HyperCard, but somewhere there may be a person who graduated from MetaCard
to C++ who is laughing at us. And that's not right either.
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to be able to
speak SQL to that port and also read results from that port. And I'm
assuming you can't just send straight SQL commands to the port, because it
couldn't be THAT easy...
So where am I right and where am I wrong?
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button. Obviously a simple repeat loop
in the Start button won't work. Anyone done this?
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Ple
MetaCard development community
is the best in the world.
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Please send bug reports
d I'm
also desperate for one... as quickly as possible!!!
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uch sooner.
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w what
has and has not been used? What do I have permission to use? Apple has a
database online of creators. Does Microsoft have a similar database for
Windows and DOS extensions? Do I have to fart around with modifying the
registry? Yuck. Thanks in advance for any replies...
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Richard
get this one
for only $39 (and it's easy to use and works great)?
Clickteam is kinda like MetaCard... most people have not heard of them, but
those who know their products are religious about them.
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tch a
hint of when MetaCard will have an engine for it?
Hey, can't hurt to ask.
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All,
I've just installed SuSE Linux 7.0 (PPC Edition) on to one of my Macs. Will
any of the Linux versions of MetaCard run on this? Which version should I
try? This is going to be a VERY popular version of Linux for the Mac, from
what I've seen so far...
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it must be set up correctly. It might not be, it might just be that the
problem with the setup is not exposed. In this case, if you really only
have one user, I'd say that's the problem. And if you have 500 MM users and
2 ASIP users, I'd say that's the problem too.
:)
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unless you put ".mc" on the end.
There may be a few more I'm forgetting. Aside from these issues, cross
platform stacks work extremely well.
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Thanks for the info, Scott.
Your answer brings up another question...
Would running mchttp on a Linux box be significantly faster than running it
on a Mac? All other things (processor speed, amount of RAM, etc) being
equal...
:)
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And finally...
What would be a simple example of using "wait with message" to allow MC to
handle multiple socket requests?
Any answers to any of these questions would be appreciated, as usual.
:)
Richard MacLemale
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to just have them both running from the same copy of
MetaCard?
Would this be different if the host computer was running the Mac OS or WinNT
(or Linux?)
Again, thanks in advance for any input.
:)
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the "files" that my app creates to have unique
icons.
How do I do this?
(I'm not afraid of using ResEdit on my app, if need be.)
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