i have decided to move to RunRev. they have some
MIDI action over there and MC is really a little
over my head... so far!
thanks for the assistance. when i get handy with
cgi socket array url concerns, i can always
return. right now i am trying to get a startup
handler going... all the best.
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on gv
go stack Visuals
end gv
Visuals is a small stack with 4 radio buttons.
each button has this mouseUp handler:
on mouseUp
fixLnF
end mouseUp
on fixLnF
put appearance manager,windows \
95,motif,macintosh into theLooks
set the lookAndFeel to \
(the short name of the target)
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on the rect of the graphic.
how about using several little rectangles?
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MetaCard 2.4.3 has been
released!
You can now download the latest release of
MetaCard from our WWW site
http://www.metacard.com/get.html. If you
already have MetaCard
installed, get just the new bits in the
directory:
- do something else I haven't thought of
* use labels. use the same label (say Enter)
for btns in different stacks but use names for
the controls that differ in each stack.
use ids.
--- Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you have handlers that reference same-named
controls residing in
--- Kurt Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The routines allow you to produce MIDI files by
step-entry on an
on-screen keyboard, but at this point not by
recording live performance
on an external keyboard. You can then open
those MIDI files in a
sequencer, but the routines don't send
Simply use the following to get an object that is
not in a group, into a group.
copy graphic oval to group groupNameHere then
you need to delete the original control that is
not in the group. -Mark Talluto
--
Another way is to create the object
is there a list of keyboard shortcuts somewhere?
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how about putting the archive address at the
bottom of the page?
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permanently? with multiple groups, this seems
like the way to go.
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Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, doesn't work on my computer (running XP) unless I set the shellCommand to "cmd.exe." (I saw the note in the documentation about this.) So now I'm curious: Does it work on your XP system *without* this modification? If it is required for XP (and NT?),
combining all the handlers for a stack into one
script avoids many problems, but opening a 70k
script is slooower.
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I'm using, in a 24/7 production context, on the
linux platform, mc-based
web applications that include some fat scripts
(up to 795000 chars each°
without any troubbles.
merci bien, i will assume that mac OS 9.2.2 can
handle a lot more than
oi, try this:
HyperTalk 2.2: The Book
by Dan Winkler, Scot Kamins, Jeanne DeVoto
http://www.jaedworks.com/hypercard/HT2-2TB/index.html
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I wrote an entire suite of midi xcmds for
Hypercard several years ago called
MidiToolz
(http://www.rcsprogramming.com/MidiToolz/MidiToolz.html)...but
they
require Apple's Midi Manager. If there is
already a way to access each OS's
respective 'midi
do these xcmds create files that can be
transfered to a sequencer?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote an entire suite of midi xcmds for
Hypercard several years ago called
MidiToolz
(http://www.rcsprogramming.com/MidiToolz/MidiToolz.html)...but
they
require Apple's Midi Manager. If
is there a way to color the (threeD is true)
standard button? foreground works fine, but the
other choices do not register color in the
button.
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notes in MC?
3 rows of 16 fields. each either empty or X
on polyRhythm
put bg fld Tempo into theTempo
repeat with i = 1 to 16
if NOT (cd fld i is empty) then play
/
flute tempo theTempo 60s
if NOT (cd fld (i+16) is
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Your line-breaking slashes (/) should be
'backslashes' (\). See if that fixes it.
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You must have missed the discussion with Scott
about this on the
HyperCard list -- the short answer is, no.
The long answer is: it
could be done if someone were willing to learn
the MIDI file format and
write the script-to-binary translations.
how about a short example?
thanks, erik
--- Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It think you'll find adding stuff at the end of
a variable extremely
fast using put x after y. However, the line
thisLine of bigList
part will get progressively slower as the value
of thisLine
increases.
this is very useful. if your tutotials were on a
shareware basis, it would let you put more time
into filling the need for more documentation. of
course the MetaCard users in this list seem
pretty advanced... it might be a niche market.
--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tariel
hello, i am the one whose properties stack goes
blank if i try to type anything in (button input
is ok).
i now have half of my controls not showing when
editbkgnd = false. they all show up when
editbkgnd = true. they are all present in the
Control Browser and listed as visible in bg and
cd
--- Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My guess: Layers.
yes. i have been playing with layers to create a
ghost graphic showing only a name to be placed
under a button so that arcs can be added
indicating the travel path from the button's
previous loc to its present position.
1) The group
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you can't buid with M.C.
c'est vrai?
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Delete, Copy, and Cut all use the same TLRB, but
Paste drops the graphic about 40 pixels up and
100 pixels to the right.
on cd_bgType CorB,what,T,L,R,B
put the tool into savedTool
put the editbkgnd into savedBg
set the editbkgnd to (CorB is bg)
choose select tool
drag from T,L to B,R
is Metacard 2.4.2B4 PPC good for Mac 9.2.2?
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As you may know, there are some MIDI access
capabilities available through MC's MCI
(Media Control Interface - Win32 only)
commands. You can explore the MCI stuff by
getting the mci.mc.gz stack from
ftp.metacard.com and going to its Commands
tab.
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erik hansen wrote/ schreef:
the custom icons created in HC and opened in
MC
cannot be found. in HC they are referenced to
the
stack and appear in the icon window with the
id
the creator chooses. guys 4001 etc., dolls
3001
etc. where they can be edited. after
--- Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...which ones I can port to MC without losing
any
of the goodies, and without
spending a lot of time with the transition.
MC cannot easily handle some of
the things HC does with graphics and sounds...
i thought (hoped) MC was a super script of HC
that
--- Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bad token: theID, iconNum, theVis, etc. is
what comes up alot esp. when
ExplicitVariables()
is true.
these are close to taken words in MC, but
not exactly the same.
is this just something you have to deal with
by naming your variables in
if you are importing custom icons from HC,
they will wind up in their own Stack BackGround.
Go to Edit BackGrounds and click on HC Icons in
the Stack Backgrounds window right below the Card
Groups window.
--- Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 04:43 AM,
(thetarg is in the propertynames) = false
local theTarg
put the target into theTarg
local: name shadows another variable or constant
line:27 column:3 bad token: theTarg
Handler: error in command
Handler: error in handler
this occured AFTER i had worked my way down half
of the script
:
erik hansen wrote:
(thetarg is in the propertynames) = false
local theTarg
put the target into theTarg
local: name shadows another variable or
constant
line:27 column:3 bad token: theTarg
Handler: error in command
Handler: error in handler
this occured AFTER i had worked
bad token: theID, iconNum, theVis, etc. is what
comes up alot esp. when ExplicitVariables() is
true.
these are close to taken words in MC, but not
exactly the same.
is this just something you have to deal with by
naming your variables in German?
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and I sure would love a
book of that quality for Metacard.
i'll buy one too.
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parentheses?
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when attempting to write something in an object's
properties stack, like a name or icon number, the
little stack goes blank when i press a letter
key.
i thought it might be something i was not setting
up, and re-took the tutorials, but i can't figure
out why this happens. my older objects seem
when attempting to write something in an object's
properties stack, like a name or icon number, the
little stack goes blank when i press a letter
key.
i thought it might be something i was not setting
up, and re-took the tutorials, but i can't figure
out why this happens. sometimes i get this:
It looks like you might be getting a bug from
one of MetaCard's scripts. I
get those too occasionally, usually from the
control browser.
if i create an image object, (for example) then
bring up the properties dialog, then try to
type a char into the Image Name field- the
whole dialog goes
mac OS 9.2
MC 2.4.1
MetaCardPPC
if i create an image object, (for example)
then
bring up the properties dialog, then try to
type a char into the Image Name field- the
whole dialog goes blank.
What version of the OS and what version of
MetaCard? I had the same thing
happen, only I
9.1 for ages and never saw
anything like that. Sounds
like a bug though.
On Wednesday, March 13, 2002, at 09:57 PM, erik
hansen wrote:
mac OS 9.2
MC 2.4.1
MetaCardPPC
if i create an image object, (for example)
then
bring up the properties dialog, then try
to
type a char
--- Jacqueline Landman Gay
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2002, at 10:16 PM, erik
hansen wrote:
put the properties of stack MexCho,
or bg btn id 1234, or whatever puts empty
into
the msg. yet, i can set the name using a line
command in the msg.
What you want
the custom icons created in HC and opened in MC
cannot be found. in HC they are referenced to the
stack and appear in the icon window with the id
the creator chooses. guys 4001 etc., dolls 3001
etc. where they can be edited. after going
through tutorials, concepts, and references, re:
icons
--- Jacqueline Landman Gay
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Script: missing '' after literal
this comes up each time i close a script.
Find the missing quotation mark and add it.
A literal somewhere is missing half its quotes
or there's a typo and some word has
a quote mark at the beginning.
when attempting to write something in an objects
properties stack, like a name or icon number, the
little stack goes blank when i press a letter
key.
i thought it might be something i was not setting
up, and re-took the tutorials, but i can't figure
out why this happens.
also the icons i
Script: missing '' after literal
this comes up each time i close a script.
is there a work around? thanks.
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--- MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flash, director... Freehand... great kit,
director's scripting language
lingo is like HyperTalk...
There's a bunch of others for PC but I can
think of none that stand out as much...
GraphicConverter is, IMOHO, well
continuing good results from your search script
utility.
i did offer to figure out how to run
automatically through a myStacks() list of
stacks, but first is that already a feature?
one small thing to add would be a put empty
into the object field as soon a new stack name
appears but before
i have several dozen 32x32 icons in HC that i use
for Mexican folklorico dancers. they can be
copied from the icon editor and pasted to a HC
card, and a shot of the card can be exported. the
programs that will open the document file do
not let you save as a jpeg or gif file.
photoshop does not
--- Jacqueline Landman Gay
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Use a commandKey handler on either plaform when
you want to trap Command on Mac
and Control on PC.
A controlKey handler does a similar
translation, mapping to the Alt key on
Windows. On a Mac it will be sent when the user
types a
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
the functions commandKey() controlKey()
return up or down.
the messages commandKeyDown A and
controlKeyDown A, on the other hand, can
have handlers.
here is the ambiguity:
MC's controlKeyDown A is equivilant to HC's
controlKey A,
HC just
is there any way to colorize the background of
the Script Editor and Script debugger? Colorize
Script is good, but the overall battleship grey
is gloomy. a pastel background would give the
spirit a lift.
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a yes/no query.
is it good to plan that all mac command-
shortcuts will be equivilant to pc control-
shortcuts?
on mac, i currently use control- just for my own
work needs.
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the mac controlKey has its own non-ascii
numbering system as opposed to commandKeyDown
whixh uaes ascii chars:
on controlKey theKey
if theKey is 1 then # a
choose hand tool
else if theKey is 2 then
choose rect tool # b
end if
end controlKey
on commandKeyDown theKey
if theKey
so... the mac commandkey equals the pc controlKey
and the controlKey is just not used in mac?
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i am having problems with the script editor not
closing.
for editing debugging, does it make any
difference whether the home stack is open?
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after opening a HC stack, which is a database for
songs, i tried to convert the objects to separate
bg groups (blue btns, yellow flds, green flds
etc,) sometimes this works except that the group
is not applied to all of the cards.
i have been going through the Help menu. the
tutorial creates
the archives show some discussion about using
functions in the msg and how the stack level
*may* affect this.
a bg btn or enterkey sends findwords to a
handler in the bg. this works perfectly in HC.
in a database for songs, using msg as input is
yielding bizarre results. once with moon the
is there a way to type into the msg while it is
not visible?
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--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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erik hansen wrote:
any MC analogues for the xy handler?
Do you mean this one?
on xy
repeat until the mouseClick
put the mouseLoc
end repeat
end xy
Works on both HC and MC (and SC and OMO...)
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--- Tereza Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
To avoid bottling up the engine servicing your
loop:
on mouseMove mX, mY
put format( horz: %d vert: %d, mX, mY )
end mouseMove
Scott Raney has told us in the past that
repeat until the mouseClick is
not a good idea because it
hm.
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tereza Snyder wrote:
new and improved... no flashy text...
on xy
repeat until the mouseClick
get the mouseLoc horz:the mouseH
vert:the mouseV
if it is not lastxy then
put it
put it into lastxy
end if
end repeat
end
thanks, i'll try that.
--- Nelson Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erik,
any MC analogues for the xy handler?
on xy
set cursor to cross
set the numberformat to 0.##
--set the height of msg for three lines
put the mouseloc into temp
repeat until the mouseclick
put Loc:
--- andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
erik hansen wrote:
hm.
This used to be a content rich list, no need to
pollute it.
i am pretty slow on picking up the ways of a new
list. after 4 thank you's on the xy thread a
variation slipped out. since i don't see any
other responses
despite an extensive search of stacks, scripts,
and help resources, the meaning of the Apply
button inside a script remains a mystery.
it appears self evident, yet there is also a
Done button. the Done button closes the
window, the Apply button does not.
thanks, erik
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oops, that is OK not DONE
despite an extensive search of stacks, scripts,
and help resources, the meaning of the Apply
button inside a script remains a mystery.
it appears self evident, yet there is also an
OK button. the OK button closes the
window, the Apply button does not.
thanks,
wonder if there is any way to generate
some visual feedback when the script changes
are applied...
there is a visual shimmy IF the script has been
altered. if not, no shimmy.
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parentheses are listed as operators. operator
number 1 in fact. seems you can't go wrong with
number 1 operators.
--- Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It seems that parenthesis in MC are required
more often than in HC.
Particularly in more complex expressions where
functions are
hi Shari,
welcome. always good to see another familiar name
on this list.
this is cold, but i feel that people who passed
on the $199 deal have noone to blame but
themselves if their needs are not being met with
HyperCard as it now is and evermore will be.
learning MetCard is exciting and
i have to rescind my promise not to ask questions
until completing all tutorials. the MC
application tutorial is completed, the first
HyperActive tutorial in progress.
i like to use lots of brackets:
put (the number of items in it) into tot
a few stabs in the msg yielded unexpected
results.
is
parentheses! curly brackets!
this was once a topic.
for me, clarity is the issue, esp. with a long
line. logical evaluations too:
if (a=b) and (cd) then...
i just wondered if MetaCard had some quirks...
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Not that I'm aware of, but prudent use of
the index has a keyboard shortcuts listing for
paint tools. is there anything on keyboard
shortcuts in browsw mode?
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How do you add objects to a group?
I have an image which is 4 times larger in
area than the screen window.
The image contains various cells. I want to
draw an oval around various cells
and then group the ovals and image so when the
image is
--- Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 6:12 PM -0800 1/14/02, erik hansen wrote:
in the tutorial i got all my objects grouped,
but
none of them appeared on my next card.
set the backgroundBehavior of the group to true
this checkbox in the Properties Palette did it.
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let me try this again. i was joking around.
the recursion occured because:
this was funny: while substituting
tot(l, for (the number of lines in
i pasted INSIDE function tot.
HyperCard crashed. the mac crashed.
can anyone identify the too much recursion
culprit?
function tot what,it
if
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
erik hansen wrote:
Power Tools. the Super Grouper is something i
used to move things around a lot with my
dance
stack.
has anyone run into any tricky spots using
anything akin to Super Grouper in MetaCard?
Not needed. MetaCard
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
erik hansen wrote:
--- Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
erik hansen wrote:
Power Tools. the Super Grouper is something
i
used to move things around a lot with my
dance
stack.
has anyone run into any tricky spots
--- Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 6:12 PM -0800 1/14/02, erik hansen wrote:
in the tutorial i got all my objects grouped,
but
none of them appeared on my next card. i'll
just
have to do it again a couple of times and it
sold
be clear.
set the backgroundBehavior of the group
--- Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: erik hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: power tools
--- Richard Gaskin
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wrote:
erik hansen wrote:
Power Tools
--- Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 7:14 PM -0800 1/14/02, erik hansen wrote:
this will get fun when button animation is
introduced...
Button animation? You should be able to do
something like this already -- create an image
and reference an animated gif.
gc
i saw that demo
--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
erik hansen wrote:
put tot(it,l) into tot
shorter
put (the number of lines in it) into tot
clearer
only thing is, nobody else does this.
maybe clearer is better than shorter?
Depends. In this case, the clearer method takes
less
just added a MetaCard Fanzine to my website
(see WAY below). so far there is one section,
Tools featuring sites from the list. 3 so far!
next up is a Handlers section for homemade ss
vw mw and you name it handlers. i know there are
a lot of great collections on the HyperCard list,
but i did not
--- Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Rev is getting a lot of attention right
now, especially in the Mac universe.
Mac is getting out from under the rat-fink rap
for abandoning HyperCard.
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--- Karl Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and as far as why MetaCard is the stuff...
It uses the exact same
syntax as HyperCard (which I learned on) , but
it extends it in so
many great and easy-to-program ways I can't
help but not use it.
Other languages often frustrate me with
--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
HyperCard scripts execute faster if the thes
are left in, so I always
used them and never had to deal with it during
a MetaCard port. I think
if I were you, I'd add them back into HyperCard
and leave them there.
her i thought i was being
--- Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric,
You can try our site at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/default.htm
There's some helpful tools there as well. Most
work on both MC and RR.
Last Modified: 1/8/02
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What do you want to know about keyboard focus?
what is it?
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--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
it sounds like
you just want to find text in the reference.
Use the Find command (Cmd-F
or under the Tools menu) which will bring up
a dialog. You can use that
to search for text in stacks.
MC doesn't provide a searchscript utility, but
I
thanks for all the responses.
STABILITY (no crashes) seems to be the main
motif.
SCOTT was the constant refrain.
guess the meaning of IDE will become clear soon
enough.
hate GUIs must mean you like to craft your own?
--- David Bovill
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No *real* answer to that one.
Integrated Development Environment
hate GUIs must mean you like to craft your
own?
Sometimes. There's always a question of return
on investment with such
things. I've been working with MC since before
Rev was announced, so I've
amassed a fair collection of tools to augment
MC's
--- andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Judd wrote:
Mature?
Well yes, Metacard is a simple, efficient,
stable development environment...
sounds like the kind of loyalty and enthusiasm
for a product that HyperCard is famous for.
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des Français encore!
--- Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps, because Metacard contains the best of
Hypercard and Supercard +
the best of the most usefull XCMDs collections
+ the best of Quickeys
and so on, that all runnable on allmost of the
best (and baddest)
operating
one of the key questions for me was the
restrictions RunRev puts on Rapid Application
Development (whatever that is (and as i hear 2nd
hand)). this issue does NOT seem to have struck a
nerve .
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--- Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 5:13 PM -0800 1/7/02, erik hansen wrote:
one of the key questions for me was the
restrictions RunRev puts on Rapid Application
Development (whatever that is (and as i hear
2nd
hand)). this issue does NOT seem to have
struck a
nerve
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