Metacard still wins

2008-08-08 Thread Shari
Okay, so I've been learning the Rev IDE.  Yesterday I had a bunch of 
option buttons and I was putting scripts into them via copy/paste. 
Didn't want to group them.  I pasted the scripts, closed and saved 
the script, and saved the stack.  Went back to discovered most of the 
buttons were missing the scripts.


Did it again and again and again on and on, and for some reason the 
scripts wouldn't stick.  Really unnerving because you just wonder how 
much is disappearing that you'll discover later.


I've NEVER had that happen with the MC IDE.  Ever in many years, from 
MC 2.4.3 to 2.9, it has never happened (using Enterprise).


So I attempted to install the MC IDE hoping Klaus was wrong about 
Media, but sadly, it wouldn't stick either so I guess I'm going to be 
sleeping with the Rev IDE over there.  At least here I can dance with 
my happy MC IDE :-)



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RE: Metacard still wins

2008-08-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 I've NEVER had that happen with the MC IDE.  Ever in many 
 years, from MC 2.4.3 to 2.9, it has never happened (using Enterprise).
 
 So I attempted to install the MC IDE hoping Klaus was wrong 
 about Media, but sadly, it wouldn't stick either so I guess 
 I'm going to be sleeping with the Rev IDE over there.  At 
 least here I can dance with my happy MC IDE :-)

Revolution Media, as Jan suggested, has a different emphasis than Studio and
Enterprise. The ability to use your IDE of choice - Rev, MetaCard or Galaxy
is a major advantage, as is the ability to build standalones. Media is
really positioned more to replace HyperCard by providing a very inexpensive
way to get into authoring. Media isnt without expansion capabilities though
- you can still use libraries like Animation Engine. Media is therefore more
complete out of the box, but feature limited compared to Studio.

Im going to write a follow on post about the toolkit which is media in our
Issue Release method we have moved to at Mirye, which will expand on this.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

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Re: Metacard still wins

2008-08-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Shari wrote:
Okay, so I've been learning the Rev IDE.  Yesterday I had a bunch of 
option buttons and I was putting scripts into them via copy/paste. 
Didn't want to group them.  I pasted the scripts, closed and saved the 
script, and saved the stack.  Went back to discovered most of the 
buttons were missing the scripts.


Did it again and again and again on and on, and for some reason the 
scripts wouldn't stick.  Really unnerving because you just wonder how 
much is disappearing that you'll discover later.


I've NEVER had that happen with the MC IDE. 


I've never had it happen with Rev either. How are you saving the 
scripts? I usually just hit the Enter key twice while the script is 
frontmost, at which point the script closes and saves. Then I save the 
stack.


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Re: Metacard still wins

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Shari,

Something similar happened to me. Sometimes because Revolution didn't  
notice that a stack couldn't be saved, sometimes because a script  
didn't compile while no errors were reported.


Unfortunately, there are multiple factors that cause this situation  
and it is difficult to reproduce. It happens only rarely, but when it  
happens you may lose a day's work and find out about it only the next  
day.


You might want to put true into gRevDevelopment (use the message box)  
and see whether an execution error appears when you apply the script.


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On 8 aug 2008, at 20:58, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Shari wrote:
Okay, so I've been learning the Rev IDE.  Yesterday I had a bunch  
of option buttons and I was putting scripts into them via copy/ 
paste. Didn't want to group them.  I pasted the scripts, closed and  
saved the script, and saved the stack.  Went back to discovered  
most of the buttons were missing the scripts.
Did it again and again and again on and on, and for some reason the  
scripts wouldn't stick.  Really unnerving because you just wonder  
how much is disappearing that you'll discover later.

I've NEVER had that happen with the MC IDE.


I've never had it happen with Rev either. How are you saving the  
scripts? I usually just hit the Enter key twice while the script is  
frontmost, at which point the script closes and saves. Then I save  
the stack.


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Re: Metacard still wins

2008-08-08 Thread Shari
I've never had it happen with Rev either. How are you saving the 
scripts? I usually just hit the Enter key twice while the script is 
frontmost, at which point the script closes and saves. Then I save 
the stack.


I've always hit the enter key in MC.  In Rev I use the menu Save and 
Close or Apply and Close or whatever it's called.  It worked on 
every other script except for those option buttons, and it worked on 
some of them.


You might want to put true into gRevDevelopment (use the message 
box) and see whether an execution error appears when you apply the 
script.


What is gRevDevelopment?  (Please don't tell me you have to turn 
Execution Errors on in Rev?  MC just automatically does them!)


Shari

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Re: Metacard still wins

2008-08-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Shari wrote:

What is gRevDevelopment?  (Please don't tell me you have to turn 
Execution Errors on in Rev?  MC just automatically does them!)


Rev behaves identically and will show errors unless you specifically 
turn them off (there is a toolbar icon to toggle that.)


The gRevDevelopment global is an undocumented setting used by the Rev 
IDE team to debug errors that occur in scripts within the IDE stacks. On 
the assumption that most users don't want to debug the IDE, it is turned 
off by default. Mark is suggesting that you turn it on temporarily to 
see whether an IDE script error is blocking the saving in your own scripts.


It isn't usually necessary but in rare circumstances it can be useful to 
see the guts of the IDE in action. I kind of doubt this is what's going 
on but it won't hurt to check.


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