RE: Rev state of play (was: no subject)
Thanks for the insider-info, FlexibleLearning. Regards, Alain. :) Jacque has pointed you in the right direction, but I'd like to add a word on the revWeb plugin for 'revlet' apps... It has achieved proof of concept stage, but we are all waiting for the final release of 4.5 for a commercially solid technology. I have at least one client champing at the bit for it. The main issue for us has been the inability to ensure that the most recent version of the plugin is installed, and un-installing currently requires manual intervention. This is the show-stopper. Window layering, mouse and cursor issues, trivial things like that, also have to be addressed. BUT, once done this is going to be (almost) as revolutionary as RevMobile, and certainly for dyed-in -the-wool-dont-want-or-need-an-android-iphone-gimme-a-break types like me. :) /H ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Rev state of play (was: no subject)
Welcome back, Alain! Jacque has pointed you in the right direction, but I'd like to add a word on the revWeb plugin for 'revlet' apps... It has achieved proof of concept stage, but we are all waiting for the final release of 4.5 for a commercially solid technology. I have at least one client champing at the bit for it. The main issue for us has been the inability to ensure that the most recent version of the plugin is installed, and un-installing currently requires manual intervention. This is the show-stopper. Window layering, mouse and cursor issues, trivial things like that, also have to be addressed. BUT, once done this is going to be (almost) as revolutionary as RevMobile, and certainly for dyed-in-the-wool-dont-want-or-need-an-android-iphone-gimme-a-break types like me. :) /H -Original Message- From: metacard-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:metacard-boun...@lists.runrev.com]on Behalf Of metacard-requ...@lists.runrev.com Sent: 15 July 2010 18:00 To: metacard@lists.runrev.com Subject: metacard Digest, Vol 75, Issue 1 Send metacard mailing list submissions to metacard@lists.runrev.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to metacard-requ...@lists.runrev.com You can reach the person managing the list at metacard-ow...@lists.runrev.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of metacard digest... This is the Metacard mailing list. Today's Topics: 1. (no subject) (Alain Farmer) 2. Re: (no subject) (J. Landman Gay) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:42:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Alain Farmer alain_far...@yahoo.com Subject: (no subject) To: Discussions on Metacard metacard@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 612042.45178...@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello. :) I have been using MetaCard 2.5 for over a decade now, and, with some free time on my hands, I was wondering what RunRev was up to these days. I must say.. I am impressed! Particularly with all of the new [web] features: * save stack as revlet and deploy-to-web ; * free downloadable plugin for revlets ; * free 'player' of stacks (eg RevMedia) ; * part to display/manage genuine tables ; * interact with mySQL databases ; * rev based web hosting ... Way to go! :-) But how come I haven't heard much/any news about these new [web] features? From all of you mc/rev users, I mean. Do these features really deliver [as promised]? Are Revlets better (perform better) than java-Applets? Or Flash for that matter? Can a revlet write to the user's disk?? Do the revlets do everything a stack can? Are the revlets limited in some way? Do they require a server-side process[es] - CGI, AJAX, or otherwise - to do certain things? If so: basic things? or just extraordinary things? Any comments on this, or any of the other aforementionned features, would be GREATLY appreciated. :-) Alain P.S.: Is this the correct list for this inquiry? -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:24:11 -0500 From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com Subject: Re: (no subject) To: Discussions on Metacard metacard@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 4c3e714b.3050...@hyperactivesw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alain Farmer wrote: Hello. :) I have been using MetaCard 2.5 for over a decade now, and, with some free time on my hands, I was wondering what RunRev was up to these days. I must say.. I am impressed! Particularly with all of the new [web] features: * save stack as revlet and deploy-to-web ; * free downloadable plugin for revlets ; * free 'player' of stacks (eg RevMedia) ; * part to display/manage genuine tables ; * interact with mySQL databases ; * rev based web hosting ... Way to go! :-) But how come I haven't heard much/any news about these new [web] features? From all of you mc/rev users, I mean. Do these features really deliver [as promised]? Are Revlets better (perform better) than java-Applets? Or Flash for that matter? Can a revlet write to the user's disk?? Do the revlets do everything a stack can? Are the revlets limited in some way? Do they require a server-side process[es] - CGI, AJAX, or otherwise - to do certain things? If so: basic things? or just extraordinary things? Any comments on this, or any of the other aforementionned features, would be GREATLY appreciated. :-) Alain P.S.: Is this the correct list for this inquiry? It's all happening over on the Rev list. This one is mostly just to discuss the MC IDE. I think you'll find everything you want to know if you search the list archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user You can join the Rev list here: http://www.runrev.com/developers/community/ Info about revserver
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Hello. :) I have been using MetaCard 2.5 for over a decade now, and, with some free time on my hands, I was wondering what RunRev was up to these days. I must say.. I am impressed! Particularly with all of the new [web] features: * save stack as revlet and deploy-to-web ; * free downloadable plugin for revlets ; * free 'player' of stacks (eg RevMedia) ; * part to display/manage genuine tables ; * interact with mySQL databases ; * rev based web hosting ... Way to go! :-) But how come I haven't heard much/any news about these new [web] features? From all of you mc/rev users, I mean. Do these features really deliver [as promised]? Are Revlets better (perform better) than java-Applets? Or Flash for that matter? Can a revlet write to the user's disk?? Do the revlets do everything a stack can? Are the revlets limited in some way? Do they require a server-side process[es] - CGI, AJAX, or otherwise - to do certain things? If so: basic things? or just extraordinary things? Any comments on this, or any of the other aforementionned features, would be GREATLY appreciated. :-) Alain P.S.: Is this the correct list for this inquiry? ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Alain Farmer wrote: Hello. :) I have been using MetaCard 2.5 for over a decade now, and, with some free time on my hands, I was wondering what RunRev was up to these days. I must say.. I am impressed! Particularly with all of the new [web] features: * save stack as revlet and deploy-to-web ; * free downloadable plugin for revlets ; * free 'player' of stacks (eg RevMedia) ; * part to display/manage genuine tables ; * interact with mySQL databases ; * rev based web hosting ... Way to go! :-) But how come I haven't heard much/any news about these new [web] features? From all of you mc/rev users, I mean. Do these features really deliver [as promised]? Are Revlets better (perform better) than java-Applets? Or Flash for that matter? Can a revlet write to the user's disk?? Do the revlets do everything a stack can? Are the revlets limited in some way? Do they require a server-side process[es] - CGI, AJAX, or otherwise - to do certain things? If so: basic things? or just extraordinary things? Any comments on this, or any of the other aforementionned features, would be GREATLY appreciated. :-) Alain P.S.: Is this the correct list for this inquiry? It's all happening over on the Rev list. This one is mostly just to discuss the MC IDE. I think you'll find everything you want to know if you search the list archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user You can join the Rev list here: http://www.runrev.com/developers/community/ Info about revserver and revWeb are in the lessons near the top of this page: http://lessons.runrev.com. Basically there are two new web technologies: one is client-side (revWeb plugin) and the other is server-side (RevServer.) They are also working on RevMobile to allow deployment to Android phones. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Subject: [ANN] Seamless Tiles Generator released
This stack - produced in the alternative Metacard IDE - was intended to be part of the enhancements of my Imagedata Toolkit, but is now available as a separate application. It should run on all platforms (tested on Windows and Mac OS X). On Mac OS X it needs at least an Revolution engine version from 2.7 up to work properly because of the restrictions as to image size and divisibility for backpatterns in earlier versions. The stack contains its own Answer Dialog as a substack, because I need the functionality to place the dialog close to the buttons that use the dialog. This dialog should cause no problems with newer versions of Revolution. If you get a warning because of a duplicate stack, simply disregard this. You can download the zipped stack (6 MB) directly from http://www.sanke.org/Software/SeamlessTiles.zip or from page Sample Stacks of my website http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia where you also find a short description.- === What the Seamless Tiles Generator does: A few sample images are embedded. You can import your own JPG and PNG files, which will be resized to 640 X 480 pixels. From this basic image you select a rectangle for further processing. You can select - the whole image (not very useful as a tile) - predefined large and small rectangles: You use a draggable graphic to select a segment from the basic image. - segments of a customized size: The height and width of the selecting graphic can be adjusted using sliders right and below of the basic image, and then also be dragged within the rect of the basic image. The selected rectangle of the image is then transferred to page create seamless tile using the button on the upper left of the card. On card create seamless tile you can choose between three options to create a tile: - Overlay mirrored mirrors the overlapping parts of the tile borders with an optimized transition blending - Overlay stretched stretches a selected border region into both directions - Overlay cropped produces a blended overlay of the border regions and crops the resulting tile to provide exact tile borders (This is - to my experience - the most often used variant of producing seamless tiles (Photoshop, PainShopPro etc.)) For all three options you can determine five sizes of the transition width of the overlapping areas, from wide to very small. Of course, it depends very much on the nature and structure of the image segment used for producing the seamless tile which option and transition width is most suited for your purposes. The produced tile can be tested immediately as a screen-size pattern. The tile can be modified (before and after producing the seamless tile): - proportional resizing - simplifying colors (brighten, gray scale, three-threshold gray, reduce colors to 8, 27, 64, and 125 colors) - changing colors (complementary negative colors, rotate colors successively red, green, and blue, sepia, and duplicate colors) - matrix filters (7 filters are provided which could be useful for background patterns: fine emboss, contours, three variants of lithography, gray relief, and red tint). An external is not needed here. All modifying effects can be used successively, e.g. you could rotate the red tint to green, or brighten the contours filter effect until you have got an unobtrusive background etc.. Finally the tile can be exported in PNG format for further use.- Enjoy and experiment in case you like this sort of stuff. -- Wilhelm Sanke ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Subject: Thank you to Metacard and RunRev...
Shari... Please stop reading my own confidential CV, either that or turn off the telepathy property. /H ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Hi all, just in case you did not know... Attention: European Revolutionaries! European Rev Conference - Valletta, Malta 17-18 April 2004 We have formed an alliance and are presenting an exciting, informative set of Rev demonstrations. Join the Revolution! We have an excellent series of topics and demonstrations for new and experienced Revolutionaries. Getting started with Rev - Game development - Problem Solving and Algorithms development - Building Business Applications --- --- Saturday 17 April 2004 Presenter: Malte Brill Introduction to Rev: *Quick introduction to Transcript, the Rev language *Finding your way around the Rev development environment (IDE) *Message hierarchy and the programming scheme *Simple examples of how to make Rev apps do something *How to learn from the many demo Rev projects *Using sounds, graphics, and images in your Rev app Computer Game Development: *Basic game algorithms *Collision detections - distance functions, intersection functions *Interaction of Media Objects - determining angles, reacting to angles and distance Presenter: Klaus Major A Natural Approach to Problem Solving and the Development of Algorithms: *Observing and analyzing real life situations in order to develop solutions in Transcript *Creating a memory game to demonstrate how the steps necessary to solve problems are translated into Transcript programming language *The Rev engine's confessions - what goes on behind the scene in the message hierarchy Pizza-Pasta Revolution Discussions --- --- Sunday 18 April 2004 Presenter: Jan Schenkel Building Business Applications with Rev: *Database controls *Master detail forms *Reports and Labels *Integrating internet data into your business application *Static web pages *CGI Scripts with Rev *Web Services - SOAP calls in a 3-tier application model Group and one-on-one discussions of all things Rev --- --- Signup Now! Space is limited so first come first serve! Pricing up to 10 March is: Hotel two nights (bed breakfast) airport transfer conference is only $375.00 Hotel three nights (bed breakfast) airport transfer conference is only $435.00 Pricing *after* 10 March is: Hotel two nights (bed breakfast) airport transfer conference is $475.00 Hotel three nights (bed breakfast) airport transfer conference is $535.00 For more details... Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND: Also at the EuroDevCon with Jan and Malte will be the world famous Klaus! I asked him to do some tricky things like wrestle alligators in a tub of yellow snow while making a multi-media application or the even more life threatening recitation of Victorian poetry but he said no... not dangerous enough!. This man has guts folks! Klaus will be performing his opera From click to dawn... A day in the life of the message-hierarchy Klaus is going to impersonate ALL persons/objects in the message-hierarchy with their real-life voices, gestures and attitudes... I begged him to have sense as it surely is too much for one man but he insists! Note: No children will be allowed in the room when Klaus is on stage, ambulances and medical personnel will be in attendance for the inevitable incapacitations which shall surely ensue. So, as Jan said... For more information on the European Revolution Conference, read the original announcement here : http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-February/ 032266.html or contact the organiser directly : [EMAIL PROTECTED] See you there! sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TechieTours.com so don't hesitate!!! :-) Have a nice weekend... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Hi One to keep an eye on: http://sourceforge.net/projects/svgui/ Cheers Monte Goulding B.App.Sc. (Hons.) Executive Director Sweat Technologies email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.sweattechnologies.com mobile (International): +61 421 138 274 (Australia): 0421 138 274 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Brad: Are you working in OS 10, OS 9 or Windows? When you talk about text editing - do you mean adding text to a quicktime movie? Or just text in a mirrored presentation? On our web site - www.btathletics.com - you will find demo's of two different programs. One is for football coaches, the other for any coach. They are both for the Mac. We are releasing a PC version for football this week. (As soon as our web site has a make-over!) Anyway, to demo either program you need to download one of the programs and then drop in a Quicktime file with a .mov added to the filename or an iMovie project with a .dv added to the folder name. Add this media right to the CVA or VEC folder. Let me know if this helps. I haven't used RR much. I am programing strictly in MC. However, the new RR - which is supposed to be out soon - has built in hooks to capturing video. So ... we might move over to RR. Let me know if we can help in some other way, Jack Rarick Braintree Athletic Systems At 09:48 AM 2/1/03 -0500, you wrote: John, I'm a multimedia developer with a serious case of Director antipathy. I'm considering Revolution for a project and I'd like to include a text editing function. I read in a post from last July that you had a stack with simple editing functions. If you could contact me or send me that stack I'd appreciate it. I'm also interested in finding out what people are doing with Rev, how it stacks up (no pun intended ;-] against Director and whatever other x-platform tools there are. Any thoughts appreciated. Regards, Bradley S. Borch Activa Digital Media Design 5 Pine Point Road Hope, Maine 04847 207-763-4474 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.activadesign.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Subject: Short reads in CGI applications: THE SCOTT'S CHAMPAGNE WAY !
On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 06:30 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: We'll look into supporting a simpler way to do this for 2.5 (not sure whether to fix it so read .. for $CONTENT_LENGTH works, or to support read .. until eof on pipes), but in the mean time something like the above should solve the problem. Regards, Scott I like the idea (from my own non-CGI perspective) of both read .. until empty, meaning give me what you have, and read ... until eof, meaning read until the pipe is closed by the other end. Might as well apply that to all reads where the difference is meaningful. Dar Scott (The voice in the back of the room.) ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Still on the subject of emails
Hi all, Is there a way, from within a MC script, to open the default email client (I know how to do that) AND to have a new email window automatically opened WITH a certain file automatically attached to that message ? Or may be is there a way to do that with the SMPT protocol with libURL (I've been too busy lately to check the latest developments of libURL)... Thanks. JB ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Still on the subject of emails
JB, Shao Sean has a wonderful SMTP library at: http://www.shaosean.tk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jbv Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Still on the subject of emails Hi all, Is there a way, from within a MC script, to open the default email client (I know how to do that) AND to have a new email window automatically opened WITH a certain file automatically attached to that message ? Or may be is there a way to do that with the SMPT protocol with libURL (I've been too busy lately to check the latest developments of libURL)... Thanks. JB ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Subject: Re: Dragging Lines in a Field
Does anybody have a solution for dragging lines up and down in a field to resort them? Thanks, Ray Horsley Developer, LinkIt! Software As a reply Rich Payne Sparkman Mfg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted a script that allows to drag lines inside the field. Posted a script that allows to drag lines inside the field. I tested the script and it works, but unfortunately after intensive use it eventually crushes MC v 2.4.2, at least on my computer (Mac OS 9.1 G3 350, 512 Meg RAM). One of the symptoms is that MouseStillDown handler begins to indefinitely calling itself even long after the mouse is UP (indefinite recursion, if I'm not messing up the terms). It keeps calling MouseStillDown until the mouse is clicked outside the field. So, I blocked this behavior with click at -100,100 at the end of the handler. This stopped MouseStillDown to continue working after mouseup but MC 2.4 still crushes, through less frequently. Without having exact recipe I think this has something to do with new async behavior of mouse function The mouse function is now async rather than event based as in previous releases. This means that the mouse will only return down if the mouse is actually down at the exact instant the function checks it. So, I modified script a little (see below) and now it seems to be stable in all versions of MC. note: I'm sure it can be done in more efficient way, but I cooked it very quickly and my goal was to just stabilize the script in MC 2.4.2 Local VertiMouse,MyTop,MyLeft,linHt,CurLinPtr,moveTxt,Actionflag ## you can set any margin for fld and have it with or without vertical scrollbar ## button should have showBorder = false and name DragLineBtn ## field has list behavior. on mouseDown put false into Actionflag pass mousedown end mouseDown on mousestillDown if Actionflag is false then -- MouseStillDown should work only once this way... put the ClickLine into CkLn put value(the ClickLine) into moveTxt if moveTxt is empty then exit mousestillDown delete line (word 2 of CkLn) of me set the label of button DragLineBtn to MoveTxt put the textHeight of me into linHt ## f you want custom cursor while dragging, create one and activate lines below --set the cursor to (the id of image DragLineImg of grp DragLineGrp) -- set the lockcursor to true put 4 into MyTune ## Would love to know why but on my computer it needs this correction ## to let button fit exactly in Field boundaries. Put 0 into MyTune if your ## OS/computer will not require correction set the borderWidth of button DragLineBtn to the margins of me - MyTune put the top of me into MyTop put (the left of me) + MyTune into MyLeft if the vScrollbar of me is true then set the width of button DragLineBtn to (the width of me) - (the scrollbarWidth of me) - (MyTune*2) else set the width of button DragLineBtn to (the width of me) - (MyTune*2) end if set the height of button DragLineBtn to LinHt set the topLeft of button DragLineBtn to MyLeft,MyTop set the visible of button DragLineBtn to true -- put true into Actionflag -- so it never do it again while the mouse is down Send dragLine to me in 1 milliseconds -- end if end mouseStillDown on dragLine if the mouse is up then -- get out and exit -- repeat for each line L in the pendingMessages -- cancel (item 1 of L) -- not needed actually -- end repeat set the visible of button DragLineBtn to false put ((VertiMouse - MyTop) div linHt)+1 into CurLinPtr if the scroll of me 0 then add (the scroll of me div LinHt) to CurLinPtr end if if CurLinPtr (number of lines in me) then put crmoveTxt after the last line of me select the last line of me else put MoveTxt cr before line CurLinPtr of me select line CurLinPtr of me end if set the lockcursor to false exit dragline end if -- put the MouseV into VertiMouse put the scroll of me into temp if VertiMouse MyTop then put MyTop into VertiMouse subtract LinHt from temp end if if VertiMouse the bottom of me then put the bottom of me into VertiMouse add LinHt to temp end if set the scroll of me to temp set the topLeft of button DragLineBtn to MyLeft,VertiMouse-(LinHt div 2) --- send dragline to me in 10 milliseconds -- is 10 Milliseconds OK? end dragline Best regards Tariel Gogoberidze ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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hello, my name is erik hansen and i have just purchased MetaCard. the thing i am wondering about most is editing. is there a MC equivalent to HC's: Variable Watcher Message Watcher Script Editor can i step, trace, and set debug checkpoints? this info is probably right in front of me, but all the new material is overwhelming right now. There is a Script Debugger item under the Tools menu. It combines debugger (step, trace) with Variable Watcher into one. Its GUI is different but the functionality basically parallel to HC. It allows to set breakpoints (debug checkpoints). Script Editor is there but you must first launch MC and then open your stack to run MC in the developer mode. Double-clicking the stack opens MC in a Player mode. Message Watcher is not part of MC but you can try my Message Watcher utility. http://www.robelko.com/metacard/mw.html It does not fully replicate the MW of HC but you might find it useful anyway. Robert ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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erik hansen wrote: is there a MC equivalent to HC's: Variable Watcher Message Watcher Script Editor can i step, trace, and set debug checkpoints? There is no variable watcher and no message watcher. I've needed these too. The only time you can see those values is when you are debugging. There is a script editor, which I'm sure you've used, but you probably meant to say debugger. There is a debugger; choose it from the Tools menu. You can step through or step into handlers, trace and set debug checkpoints. You cannot, however, abort a script while the debugger is running. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Eva Isotalo a écrit : Hello everybody, I'm getting following error message when using a stack which worked on MC 2.3. I don't know how to respond, if I have some strange programming or if it is something else. Object: button Script... of card Execution Error Card of stack Execution Error of stack D:MC2.4-1/mctools.mc When checking, it markes the line in: on mouseUp editScript the long id of the errorobject of this card end mouseUp What should I do here? Regards, Eva Isotalo ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Hello Eva, At this point, probably nothing (i.e.: don't touch to the script of the Execution Error substack of stack mctools.mc). When this kind of error append, it's most of the time not an error appening in the Metacard IDE error controls substack but, just an error in NOT CATCHING WHAT GOES WRONG IN YOUR OWN SCRIPTS. To test this possibility of trubble, just test your scripts betwin the try... end try functions subset. Best Regards, Pierre Sahores WEB VPN applications databases servers Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Qualifier produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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on 12.13.01 08:42 AM, Eva Isotalo wrote: I'm getting following error message when using a stack which worked on MC 2.3. I don't know how to respond, if I have some strange programming or if it is something else. Object: button Script... of card Execution Error Card of stack Execution Error of stack D:MC2.4-1/mctools.mc When checking, it markes the line in: on mouseUp editScript the long id of the errorobject of this card end mouseUp What should I do here? The error handling was changed in the recent version of MetaCard 2.4.1 (read the readme -- I skipped over it until I got caught by something similar). The errorobject is now defined differently. See the scripts in card 1 of the executionError stack. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
2.3 to 2.4.1 upgrade (was (no subject)) error
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 Eva Isotalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I'm getting following error message when using a stack which worked on MC 2.3. I don't know how to respond, if I have some strange programming or if it is something else. Object: button Script... of card Execution Error Card of stack Execution Error of stack D:MC2.4-1/mctools.mc When checking, it markes the line in: on mouseUp editScript the long id of the errorobject of this card end mouseUp What should I do here? You need to use the resource mover to either delete the old execution error dialog from your stacks or move a new copy in there. The dialogs from 2.3 are not compatible with 2.4. This is a good general rule: if you've used the resource mover during development, you should use it again whenever you upgrade to get new copies of these dialogs. Regards, Scott Regards, Eva Isotalo Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Kevin Wilson a écrit : Hello list. I having a problem with embedding html graphics in a text field, and I'm not sure that I understand why. I am working with a text field with list behavior, and I am trying to embed an image at the beginning of each line. I have tried a number of different methods. if I try - put p into variable1 put /p into variable2 put variable1 line 1 of fld Master and variable2 into fld Dimension everything works fine. If I try - put img src= quote 11430 quote into variable1 put /p into variable2 put variable1 line 1 of fld Master and variable2 into fld Dimension (11430 being the id of the image that I am using), the ability to highlight lines in the text field becomes completely arbitrary, some lines working and others not. I have also tried it without quotes, like this - put img src=11430 into variable1 put /p into variable2 put variable1 line 1 of fld Master and variable2 into fld Dimension which produces the same arbitrary results, and also like this - put pimg src=folder.gif into variable1 put /p into variable2 put variable1 line 1 of fld Master and variable2 into fld Dimension which also produces the same results, some lines working and others not. Each time that I try it, the lines which work and the ones which do not are different. While I have not included all of the code that is involved, I have made a small stack and recreated the problem in it, and I would be happy to send it to anyone who thinks that they might have a suggestion as to what the problem might be. Thanks for the help. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Aloha, Try in putting all parameters values betwin simple quote, just alike : put img src='11430' into variable1 Regards, Pierre Sahores WEB VPN applications databases servers Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Qualifier produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
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Mark Luetzelschwab wrote: Subject: Re: clickline() hi all, got a problem with clickline() on mc2.4 i have a text field in a stack consisting of 3 lines. I feel this field with put 1 cr - cr into fld X by clicking with the mouse (anywhere int the line) on the first line expect that the clickline() returns the line I clicked on. In mc 2.3.2 clickline() returns a value and clickchunk() returns char 1 to 0 of field X In mc 2.4 the function returns empty until I click the textchunk 1 any proposals? have checked the archive but did not find anythink. thanks in advance and sorry for my english. I suppose this is a bug. You can use: if word 2 of the clickLine is empty then answer Please, click on a word on the line! or something similar. -- - Actually, I would consider this a 'feature'. It used to be that clicking outside the text (i.e. in the margins) returned empty, and clicking in whitespace returned char a to a-1...now it looks like if you click on text, it gives you the info, if you click on anything that is not text, its empty. Makes the logic easier than having to determine if the click was in the margin or in the text. Use the clickCharChunk/clickchar function to get the char number/char the user actually clicked on (in case you do want to know if they clicked on a tab, etc). hi all Mark, thanks for clickCharChunk. Seems to be like you described the behavior of clickline. Ans so I could solve the problem/future. regards -- Eugen Helbling _ GINIT Technology GmbH[EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugen Helbling www.ginit-technology.com Emmy-Noether-Str. 11phone: +49-721-96681-0 D-76131 Karlsruhe fax: +49-721-96681-111 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
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Does MC work on Linux based PADDs (or PDAs) ? [ its been 6 years and i dont know which apreviation/acronym to use, Paramount's or Apple's.] I havent bought a PADD/PDA since my Apple Newton Message Pad 100. The load-it-once attitude is clearly the right aproach for embeded/wearable/pocket computers. I have noticed that on monochrome macOS boxen the colours come out all but unreadable. BW seems impossible with recent versions. Perhaps its high time to reevaluate systems requirements. Obviously winCE is a great concern to a great many people. if MC can get to WinCE and Linux PDAs FIRST there is an rapidly emerging (or growing?) market to corner. RE As a Windows CE user (I have a Cassiopeia E125 Pocket PC), and it supports Visual Basic applications that are developed for the Pocket PC platfom. It basically runs like VB, or SC or MetaCard... you have an interpreter that is loaded once, and a number of projects that run with the interpreter. In the case of EVB (Embedded Visual Basic - the name for the development environment for Pocket PCs), you have a pvbscript.dll which is the main interpreter (and weighs in at about 600K), and individual projects can be anything from 5K on up. If MetaCard were to do the same thing; that is, create a version of MC which could be downloaded to a PDA and then only stacks would get downloaded and run off the interpreter, it would be quite reasonable. Just my $0.02, Ken Ray Manager of Systems Technology Thinking Publications, Inc. http://www.thinkingpublications.com/ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
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I am fairly new to the world of metcard and find it a fascinating piece of kit. I am however having a problem with menus. I have four groups of radio buttons. Group 1 has 7 buttons, group 2 has 4 buttons, group 3 has 7 buttons and group 4 has 5 buttons. I would like to write a script that will automatically generate an id number, corresponding to a certain combination of radiobuttons, when one of the radio buttons is changed. Obviously there will be four buttons selected at any time, and a total of 980 combinations, so efficiency is important. What is the easiest way to achieve this result? Many thanks for your help -- * Matthew L. Davies* * Nonlinear Kinetics Group * * * * School of Chemistry * * University of Leeds * * LEEDS. LS2 9JT. UK * * TEL: (0113) 233 6489 * Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
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I am fairly new to the world of metcard and find it a fascinating piece of kit. I am however having a problem with menus. I have four groups of radio buttons. Group 1 has 7 buttons, group 2 has 4 buttons, group 3 has 7 buttons and group 4 has 5 buttons. I would like to write a script that will automatically generate an id number, corresponding to a certain combination of radiobuttons, when one of the radio buttons is changed. Obviously there will be four buttons selected at any time, and a total of 980 combinations, so efficiency is important. What is the easiest way to achieve this result? I'm not 100% sure what you are asking for here but if you need an individual id for each possible combination to use later to match to a result of some sort then why not create a 4 digit id number of the form: the hilitedButton of group 1 the hilitedButton of group 2 the hilitedButton of group 3 the hilitedButton of group 4 Thus every possible combination will have a corresponding id that is also quite easy to read and understand by a human. Hope this is what you want Regards Monte Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
RE: 4 button groups (was: no subject)
on mouseUp if the owner of the target is me ## make sure the click was in the group put 0 into tVal put the hilitedButton of group 1 after tVal put the hilitedButton of group 2 after tVal put the hilitedButton of group 3 after tVal put the hilitedButton of group 4 after tVal # do whatever with tVal end if end mouseUp Then to later retrieve the setting of any group using the calculated value: function getGroupValue pVal, pGroup ## pVal is the value calculated above, pGroup is the group number return char pGroup of pVal end getGroupValue I expect there are better and more general solutions, but it should work. Great minds Dave ;-) I just realised that an id coule easily contain an item delimiter. To make sure there is no conflict you could make it - so an id could be 1-1-1-1 or 10-10-10-10 then you just set the itemdel to - to extract the hilited buttons if needed. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
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RE: Subject: Backdrops
I still don't get what the formatForPrinting has to do with the windowBoundingRect. This may override the property but surely changing the windowBoundingRect would be the most obvious soloution. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raymond E. Griffith Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2001 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Subject: Backdrops Jacque, You may be running into the windowBoundingRect property. It has a nasty habit of cutting off stacks. Try setting the formatForPrinting of the stack to true. You may still have to recenter your stack, but it won't cut things off. Cheers, Raymond From: Jacqueline Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backdrops Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:38:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a stack that displays a backdrop and hides the menubar. It works fine except when the monitor is set to 640x480 (which is the same size as the stack). In that case, the stack is clipped off on the right and bottom, eliminating much of the card. The idea is to fill the screen with the stack. I have tried using a script that checks the screenrect and sets the backdrop to "none" if the screenrect is the same size as the stack, but it doesn't solve the problem. At 640x480 resolution, the stack gets cut off no matter what. There is room at the edges of the monitor for the rest of the stack, it just isn't being drawn to the screen. Instead I can see through to the Finder at these edges (or I see the backdrop if I don't use the script that checks the size of the screenrect.) Solutions? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
RE: Subject: Backdrops
This seems incredably strange. Are you sure you didn't leave MC open while changging the screen resoloution. This would cause the same problem because the screenRect stays whatever it is at startUp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jacqueline Landman Gay Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2001 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: Backdrops Thanks, everyone, for the replies. The decorations on the stack were already set to none, so that wasn't it. When I set the monitor resolution to 640x480 and asked for the windowBoundingRect in the message box, it returned the screenrect, as it is supposed to, adjusted to accomodate the Mac menubar. So that wasn't it. What appears to have been happening is that the stack actually resized itself when running at a lower resolution. If I put "set the width of this stack to 640" into the message box, it expanded to fill the screen. At larger monitor resolutions, the stack displayed its full width and height automatically, but at the lower resolution it resized itself improperly. The stack was developed entirely in a larger monitor resolution, but had never been saved at a lower one. So I set the correct dimensions via the message box and saved the stack while running at the lower resolution. That seems to have fixed it. I can now open the stack in any resolution and it appears at its complete size. Looks like a glitch somewhere, but explicitly saving while running at the lower resolution seems to solve the problem. This was a converted HyperCard stack, so maybe that has something to do with it. From: Jacqueline Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backdrops Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:38:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a stack that displays a backdrop and hides the menubar. It works fine except when the monitor is set to 640x480 (which is the same size as the stack). In that case, the stack is clipped off on the right and bottom, eliminating much of the card. The idea is to fill the screen with the stack. I have tried using a script that checks the screenrect and sets the backdrop to "none" if the screenrect is the same size as the stack, but it doesn't solve the problem. At 640x480 resolution, the stack gets cut off no matter what. There is room at the edges of the monitor for the rest of the stack, it just isn't being drawn to the screen. Instead I can see through to the Finder at these edges (or I see the backdrop if I don't use the script that checks the size of the screenrect.) Solutions? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Subject: Backdrops
Monte Goulding wrote: This seems incredably strange. Are you sure you didn't leave MC open while changging the screen resoloution. This would cause the same problem because the screenRect stays whatever it is at startUp When I queried the message box for the screenrect, it always returned the correct size. Same for the windowBoundingRect. I was quitting MetaCard between sessions. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Subject: Backdrops
Jacque, You may be running into the windowBoundingRect property. It has a nasty habit of cutting off stacks. Try setting the formatForPrinting of the stack to true. You may still have to recenter your stack, but it won't cut things off. Cheers, Raymond From: Jacqueline Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backdrops Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:38:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a stack that displays a backdrop and hides the menubar. It works fine except when the monitor is set to 640x480 (which is the same size as the stack). In that case, the stack is clipped off on the right and bottom, eliminating much of the card. The idea is to fill the screen with the stack. I have tried using a script that checks the screenrect and sets the backdrop to "none" if the screenrect is the same size as the stack, but it doesn't solve the problem. At 640x480 resolution, the stack gets cut off no matter what. There is room at the edges of the monitor for the rest of the stack, it just isn't being drawn to the screen. Instead I can see through to the Finder at these edges (or I see the backdrop if I don't use the script that checks the size of the screenrect.) Solutions? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
