Hi John and others,
So it is also called the Venus stone...? Which part of her anatomy does it
represent? One of her breasts or...something else?
Perhaps with a bit of luck someone might find Venus (de Milo) missing arms
too?
Unless some darned dog, (a cousin of the Nahkla dog?) from the island
Hi John and List,
The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very special find.
It surely does!
S2; W2; annealed imb; silicate darkening;
chromite veinlets; martensite; ...
.. just to mention a few of its peculiarities!
My specimen is on its way across the Big Pond.
Congratulations to
Right off the top, I don't think anyone needs to get
defensive about this subject. I'm hoping this whole
matter will soon end on a very positive note. Keep in
mind that I'm pulling for you guys up there in US
Northwest, and that I've always been supportive of ALL
of your research efforts.
The
Please, please, all of us should and must re-read the stipulations under
which you and I were accepted as a Meteorite List member. Check the part which
states: Please do not list sales or flames on the list. The Meteorite List is
for information exchange and NOT for verbal fisticuffs and
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From: Ed Majden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:53:01 -0700
Subject: [Bolide_Chasers] Fw: Daylight fireball
A daylight fireball was observed on 2003 August 24
around 15:22 P.D.T.
Still asking:
Is this material a meteorite, or is it not?
If it turns out that this material is NOT
meteorite-related, then why have us all hold our
breath? Why build up anticipation and risk a greater
disappointment by announcing it later?
If THIS is NOT a meteorite, this won't be so much
Mike and others,
Mike, thanx for the response to my inquiry. There maybe a couple more we are
not thinking of, but I believe this demonstrates how difficult it is to find
larger pieces like the Spade piece in the states. I realize there have been
more than several smaller finds(especially in
http://www.mtv.com/onair/tomgreen/new_tom_green/poll/
If you would like to see the LA 002 meteorite appear
on MTV's The New Tom Green Show, you can go to the
above web page and vote!
You will be polled as to:
Where should Tom's co-host Glenn sleep Wednesday
night?
X Watching Mars with Dr.
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:38:46 +0200
From: ht s [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in AM SW
band
ASART(more info:www.asartonline.org or Meteor Related
Links at meteorobs.org) is also trying to use FM bands
but as we
Bernd:
got my thin L'Aigle slice today that I had bid on on EBay. Wow, how happyI am about this little L6 - "only" an L6, but the "history-laden" L'Aigle chondrite,that, along with Barbotan, convinced the last conservative bunch of enlightenedscientists, that stones do fall from the skies. I
Dear List Members,
We have over 90 auctions due to start ending in about one hour. Since this
is a slow week on eBay there are several excellent bargains to be had. If
you care to see these auctions, the link is:
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritelab/
Thank you for looking and if you
Hi list,
As a classification freak myself who alway said it matters not where or whenit falls but where it came from, I too have drifted to the dark historic side of the hobby with some of my purchases.
May the GOD ALHKAN save us all!!
Howard Wu[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bernd:
got my thin
In a message dated 8/26/2003 4:12:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike, thanx for the response to my inquiry. There maybe a couple more we are
not thinking of
There are quite a few more. Just for starters:
- Lueders, found in 1973, recognized in 1996, silicated iron,
Hi Larry,
Sensible post. I myself could do without list commercials or the petty arguments and
name calling we have sometimes but just as in the real world, the list is not perfect.
If every dealer that is a list member posted one or two ads a week we would soon be
over run with ads and little
Anne
wrote:
"Interesting how old finds are finally getting recognition.
Rather encouraging, don't you think"
And it
is about TIME! Especially for those of us tired of NWAs (even though I still
collect em!).
Really
though, there is something "nostalgic" about finds from the good ol US of
Ann, Bob and others,
Ann, thanx for chiming in and educating me and others on some other
recent big finds. I was not forgetting Bob's famous Mars finds...I just was
trying to consider the bigger US finds, but obviously none were more
significant than those two beauties.
I see from Bob's
Dear Robert and List,
I take great offense with this post because it is obvious that previous
posts regarding this subject where not read.
A few points I would like to make:
1.) From the beginning we stated that the Elma material did not look
meteoritic.
2.) The scientist asked us to collect
Hi Al,
Well said.
Unfortunately, it seems only the quire (as in, You're preaching
to the quire.) seems to hear logic on these matters. All the chest
thumpers, as you so aptly put them, seem to TOTALLY ignore
rationale.
However, one thing we in the quire CAN do is simply
Dear List and meteorite friends;
I have just began a new adventure in the meteorite circle of things.
First I was doing all of this sniffing around learning about meteorites,
and becoming educated as a grasshopper meteorite hunter. Then, I got
into other rocks and made money and learned how
Hi Alan, Bob and List,
Knowing Bob, I don't think you should take any personal offense
at the line of his questioning. He's frustrated, as many of us
are, at the difficulty we have had getting (domestic) meteorites
classified in a timely manner subsequent to the flood from NWA.
There are no two
Hi All and Bob,
I too voted for Bob.
I think what a way to go to educated all those young people on MTV! :-))
I bet Bob is already day dreaming about Snoop Dog, M M, and *bolide
chasing Bob Verish* all in the same night!
Good luck, and i can't wait also!!! :-) Moni
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pekka, Robert Verish and Robert Matson had some excellent comments on this, and I wanted
to comment back to each
For Pekka,
Thanks
for sharing that data. The chemical analysis looks somewhat similar to what I
have been told , but does vary. Some people I have talked to thought
that
Please, for the love of God ADAM, stop wasting our
time. I am 12,000 miles from home right now, and
checking my email is quite difficult, and i am still
being deluged with crap about Elma. There IS NO ELMA.
It was a scam by a coule of punks who started a
snowball effect. You found some weird crap,
R. Verish wrote the Elma matter isn't a problem in itself, as much as I
see it being a window into other areas...
Dear Robert and List,
I'm in total agreement with what Robert said. I think everyone should
look at the big picture, isn't that what science is about? Do we presume
to know
Hello all,
I was gently reminded (by someone who would know) that Gold Basin is a L4 and
not a L5..a typo error on my part. Thanks Twink.
From a faux pau-ing meteorite moffit,
John
Rob and others,
I don't know the full story of the 87 kg Wagon Wound. According to the A to Z
book it was
Just like the clicker on the Direct TV, you don't like what's on in the
channel description (subject), you skip to the next channel. No
bandwidth lost.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
Farmer
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:39 AM
Hi List, Charles
I would think that all of this is relevant
information for future meteoritics and other physical sciences. And, my guess is
that there will be some masters or doctorial papers resulting from these small,
curious items. The fact that some little analysis has been done would
Hi Mike and List,
How is the weather in Oman, Mike? I am glad you are doing real meteorite
work whatever that means. I am not the one who keeps bringing up the Elma
stuff. I am simply responding to threads that were started by somebody else
like you starting this thread. If some List Members
A few thoughts on the subject..
Why don't we just implement a new rule, that ALL advertisements have a
common word in the subject, such as 'ADVERT' if we all use the same word
every time we post an ad, then those who would rather not read these
posts can set their email software to move the
Dear List Members,
I find it interesting that two new Antarctic lunar meteorites were found
with very little fanfare. For those who are interested here are the links
to Washington University:
http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/pca02007.html
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From: Charles R. Viau
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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:18 AM
To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Elma
status
HI,
I
would like to clarify what I said about:
I wonder if the analysts
themselves are
Hello Gregory and List,
So, isn't the [...] post somewhat of a departure from that position?
No, not quite. What I don't place any significance on is stuff like a broken
piece from Michelle Knapp's tail light*, the car itself, traces of paint on
Peekskill, broken pieces of window panes,
Hi John and List
thanx for the support. I felt like the lone ranger coming out and
commenting on Matt's new aquisition. What a beauty it is!
Well, we shouldn't expect everyone to chime in on what we are
saying or what we are enthusiastic about. It is almost impossible
to respond to all those
Hey list good morning from hot and humid chicago.I was parading around
ebay city and I found another, and it looks it, another ebay scammer.This
person goes by the name, RELICSENB.He is trying to auction off 4 spain
irons.They said, they are from the BAZA DESSERT.Dessert? Sounds
like he has
To all,
Recently a seller known to me posted a bunch of items on ebay. This seller had a zero
rating and was new to eBay. I have dealt with this company before and have only heard
good things about them and that they do their own hunting for the material they have.
Included in these listing were
Al,
Thanks for the alert.
I bid on some auctions that match the description below. I will probably sit
on my payment till the situation clarifies.
However, many fraud alerts are triggered by computers monitoring for certain
patterns, such as a newbie having a large amount of high value
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-locmoonrock27082703aug27,0,5343002.story?coll=orl-news-headlines
Moon-rock peddler sentenced to 6 years
By Henry Pierson Curtis
Orlando Sentinel
August 27, 2003
Advertising moon rocks for sale on the Internet and then skipping trial cost a
Utah
Hola List
I have a new very nice 1081g metal rich Vaca Muerta piece, this piece have a
big eucrite encrusted in the mesosiderite matrix (3D), and a olivine cluster
outcropping from mesosiderite matrix. If you are interest i can send a
picture.
Best Regards
Rodrigo Martinez
Atacama Desert
FOR RELEASE: 6:00 a.m. (EDT) AUGUST 27, 2003
PHOTO NO.: STScI-PRC03-22
HUBBLE'S CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH MARS
NASA's Hubble Space Telescope took this close-up of the red planet Mars
when it was just 34,648,840 miles (55,760,220 km) away. This color
image was assembled from a series of exposures
Hi List ... as a recent successful bidder on one of Serge's auctions I
completely agree with Al. I have made numerous purchases from his web site
and have never had a problem. Serge will be a participating dealer at the
Denver show.
There is a fraud currently on ebay : item # 2189101133 is a
Hello, Mike and the list,
the seller is same, who recently sold Shirokovsky -pseudo as a meteorite,
now they were listed more correctly as non-meteorites. This may be one
reason anyway.
take care,
pekka
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Al,
Thanks for the alert.
I bid on some auctions that match the
Hello LIST and all!
This is the first my letter here. Thank you all a lot!
I really do not understand what is happening with my eBay account and hope once again that it will be OK.
Anyway I'm satisfied with your opinions and the results of the auction.
Hope to see most of you in Denver soon.
All
Hi All,
The latest issue of Natural History (the mag of the American Museum of
Natural History in NYC) has several articles about meteorites including a
short interview with Denton Ebel, the curator of meteorites at the museum
(who in his picture is holding a Johnstown specimen of what I would
From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] BAZA DESSERT???
He is trying to auction off 4 spain
irons.They said, they are from the BAZA DESSERT.Dessert? Sounds
like he has been eating to much dessert.I did not even know that spain had
a desert.Maybe
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/08/27_change.shtml
Nanometer-sized particles change crystal structure when wet
By Robert Sanders
University of California Berkeley Press Release
August 27, 2003
BERKELEY - As scientists shrink materials down to the nanometer scale,
creating
Martin wrote:
In the interview, Ebel makes two comments that made me wonder...
First, he mentions that Most meteorites are pieces of asteroids.
A very few are comets.
My question is which very few? I figure the usual suspects are Orgueil
and Murchison, but some comet experts I have talked
Hi Steve Arnold (Chicago), Marco (Holland) and List:
I can confirm that Portugal has no real desert land.
Marco's description of the SE area of Spain - Almeria - is quite a good one.
The driest land in Portugal is a small strip alongside the western banks of
the Guadiana river, close to the
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