Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Michael L Blood
Sorry Adam, I got mixed up with all that talk of 1000 NWA and only one melt, etc. Michael on 8/29/03 11:29 AM, Adam Hupe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Michael and List, > > I was not questioning Matt's integrity at all. Both meteorites were found > in Texas less than 35 mile

Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam, Michael and especially Matt, I received a part slice of Spade from Matt today and I have to say that it is an extraordinary meteorite. In my collection I have nice slices of melts that include Chico(L6), Sahara 98362(H6), Dhofar 010(H6), Gao?(H5? from Eric Olsen), and a nice small cut up

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - August 25-29, 2003

2003-08-29 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES August 25-29, 2003 o Cross-Cutting Relationships (Released 25 August 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030825a.html o Sirenum Fossae (Released 26 August 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030826a.html o Alpine glaciers (Released 27 August 2003) http://the

Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Michael and List, I was not questioning Matt's integrity at all. Both meteorites were found in Texas less than 35 miles apart and are very similar in appearance. Since finely metal-grained H6s with dark matrixes and low shock are rare I feel a pairing must be considered. In any case both Spa

Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Michael L Blood
Bernd's observations and opinion are good enough for this cowboy. Also, isn't Matt's meteorite a US find? Matt's integrity is beyond question in my book. Michael on 8/29/03 9:00 AM, Adam Hupe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear List Members, > > If somebody wants to sell an Estaca

Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread tracy latimer
The problem is that everyone is jonesing for another strewnfield after the spectacular PF fall. Hope springs eternal, yadda yadda... Tracy Latimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado Date: 29 Aug 2003 15:38:48 UT Hello once again, Anot

Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, If somebody wants to sell an Estacado specimen and a Spade specimen to us at the Denver show we would be happy to donate them to a world class researcher who will also be at the show for comparative purposes. We are in the process of working with several laboratories to sort ou

[meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello once again, Another possible inconsistency: My Estacado thin section measures 2.3 x 1.6 cm (3.68 cm^2) and I found at least 7 relict POP chondrules and 1 relict, barred chondrule. This would also be in clear contrast to A.E. Rubin's statement: "The impact melt origin of [Spade] is indica

[meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello again, I just studied my Estacado thin section (that I purchased from AL Mitterling in 1999) under crossed polars and compared the extinction behavior of its olivine crystals to the description given in A. Rubin's paper: " ... olivine in Spade currently exhibits undulose extinction and lacks

[meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread bernd . pauli
Tom wrote: > I would guess if the two are only 35 miles apart that they are the > same meteorite. I think it is time to hunt between the two !!! IF they are really paired, this would imply that several stones may have fallen. The Estacado main mass weighs 290 kg, the Spade single mass weighs 8.

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: latest virus wave

2003-08-29 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Public lynching, firing squad, torture or disembowelment would be in order for this type of crime. The problem is that this person will be rewarded for his misdeeds by getting lifetime employment at some secret facility. Sincere thanks for the forum, Dirk Ross...Tokyo David Freeman

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: latest virus wave

2003-08-29 Thread Mark Miconi
I must be lucky, I have not received a single email with the virus. It must be a credit to my ISP and the fact that I am behind a firewall. Mark M. - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'M come Meteorite Meteorites ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Pekka Savolainen ' <[EM

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: latest virus wave

2003-08-29 Thread David Freeman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Are chondrites sedimentary rocks?

2003-08-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Eric, Mark and others, Since I've opened my novice brain on this subject, I'll try to help this time. I think the settling process Eric is alluding to can in a sense be compared to taking a bunch of different size balls/BB shot and placing them in a container. Shake it a bit and what you have i

[meteorite-list] park forest here we come

2003-08-29 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
A very early good morning to the good list, and Iahope everyone has a great holiday.Well just a final update for anyone who wants to join me tomorrow in park forest to do a little hunting, a little trading, or buying, or socializing.I will be down there tomorrow about 7:30 am.I will be at the senio

[meteorite-list] Re: OT: latest virus wave

2003-08-29 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello all now I no receive others similar emails, I have control for the 4th time my pc and I not have this virusstrange virus. regards Matteo --- "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Regarding sobig.f and the latest wave of viruses, > Matteo > wrote: "I am full of thi

[meteorite-list] OT: latest virus wave

2003-08-29 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All, Regarding sobig.f and the latest wave of viruses, Matteo wrote: "I am full of this emails in my ebay email, at 20 for day." Consider yourself fortunate. At the peak, I was getting 30 per hour. It is clear from the pattern of spoofed sender e-mail addresses that at least one of our list

Re: [meteorite-list] Are chondrites sedimentary rocks?

2003-08-29 Thread drtanuki
List: My 2 yen's worth: My opinion is that chondrites and some other types should not be thought of in the same terms as Earth rock because the processes of their formation cannot be duplicated here on Earth. The same goes with some impact related materials on Earth; they don't fit the scheme

Re: [meteorite-list] Are chondrites sedimentary rocks?

2003-08-29 Thread Eric Twelker
Hello List I rarely comment on anything, but I will throw my 2ยข in here. I think Dr. Ebel makes a good point. That bit of learning was brought home to me when Tim McCoy showed me the Smithsonian's spectacular Semarkona LL3.0 specimen. I exclaimed that it was "like a sedimentary rock." (I h

Re: [meteorite-list] Recent significant larger US finds

2003-08-29 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Following this thread I would include Benjamin, Tx (about 50 KG) as a significant find by Oza Shaw. Please see MAPS for more details. Others might include Paloma (sp?) Mt. found by Allen Shaw and also Delaware,AR; Eads,CO; Hope Creek,AK; Wiseman, AK; Wild Horse, CO (all found by A.

[meteorite-list] secondary strewn field finds in PF

2003-08-29 Thread joseph_town
Hi all, I've been wondering if after all the experienced hunters that have been through this area, any meteoric material unrelated to the March fall has been found. In my limited study I see that this occurs once in a while. How likely are instances like this in similar parts of the U.S.? Areas

RE: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Matt Morgan
Hi Adam: I suggest you pick up a piece of Spade and have a thin section made. Maybe you are correct. But as we all know, the look of the cut face can be quite deceiving vs. the thin section and chemical composition. Furthermore Estacado is 35 mi away and is an S1, not S2-S3 like Spade. I suspect th

Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread martinh
Hi All, Interesting observation about Spade and Estacado. For those who have not seen Estacado, here is a link to a pic of my polished slice kindly hosted in the Gallery at the Meteorite Exchange: http://www.meteorite.com/gallery/estacado.htm Cheers, Martin - Original Message - Fr

Re: [meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and Greg, The picture (below) on Martin's site does support the similar appearance. If so, then Estacado is a special meteorite also...based on Dr. Rubin's analysis of Spade. Also, 35 miles does seem like a big strewn field but certainly not a stretch (to me) to be the same material. A pai

Re: [meteorite-list] Are chondrites sedimentary rocks?

2003-08-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Mark, I totally agree with your thinking on this. I did not intend anyone to think otherwise. My comment last night was only trying to put some kind of spin on what could be the thought process when someone uses chondrites and sedimentary rocks in the same reference. So, I too agree that they a

Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
I would guess if the two are only 35 miles apart that they are the same meteorite. I think it is time to hunt between the two!!! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Th

[meteorite-list] RE: Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
It would have to be a very large strewn field considering the fact that Spade is approx. 35 miles to the northwest of Estacado. -Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Spade Versus Estacado

2003-08-29 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I find the resemblance between Spade and Estacado remarkably indistinguishable. They are both from Texas and are both H6s. Has anybody checked for a pairing? All the best, Adam and Greg Hupe IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] Are chondrites sedimentary rocks?

2003-08-29 Thread Mark Ferguson
Hi List I just have to comment on this. Sedimentary rock, in any definition found in geology and petrology books is matter which is laid down by either wind or water, then compacted over time into a durable rock. This is not how chondrules formed. Chondrules most likely are a coalescing of minute