Fwd: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunter

2003-09-16 Thread BOORX4
Greetings List members, Larry, you are right on about "Meteorites, a Journey Through Space and Time."  It is the perfect compliment to "Rocks From Space."  Beautiful pictures, graphs and drawings on every page, easy to read and not too technical.  Read "Rocks" first and then "Meteorites." Purchase

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunter

2003-09-16 Thread LJnewpers
Months ago I wrote of a relatively new book on meteorites, METEORITES, A Journey Space and Time, written by Alex Bevan and John De Laeter and received many notes from you echoing my admiration of the book. (By the way, if you did not see that post, you should look up this very informative and b

[meteorite-list] Mars Rocks Beagle Team

2003-09-16 Thread Ron Baalke
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3113316.stm Mars rocks Beagle team By Helen Briggs BBC News September 16, 2003 The meteorite that revived hopes of finding life on Mars is to be analysed by scientists working on the British-led Beagle 2 mission. Claims in 1996 that experts at the US spac

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] CH or CB Chondrite?

2003-09-16 Thread j . divelbiss
Jeff, Thanx for keeping me and I'm sure many others straight on these issues. We as a group are too loose about meteoritic nomenclature, and I think many(non- scientists especially) out there who publish work need to pay attention to these and other common practices in naming. Much of my confusi

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all, Here is my simple, romantic notion of Mars and its red-orange/yellow-brown rocks. Living here in Pennsylvania and being close to some very nice Pre-Cambrian bedrock(mafic and ultamafic) that includes metadiabase gabbro, olivine-rich gabbro, dunite-like olivine veins, and mica-rich g

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] CH or CB Chondrite?

2003-09-16 Thread Jeff Grossman
At 11:43 PM 9/16/2003 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, Thank you for the explanation and clarification that clans do not necessarily tie two groups together...though they are thought to be related due to similarities. So it goes something like this... (with a few questions at the bottom). Cla

[meteorite-list] SALE: Fall housecleaning 100+specimens!

2003-09-16 Thread martinh
Howdy Folks, I've been cleaning up again and found some meteorite specimens and thin sections I no longer need. Tomorrow morning (Wednesday) at or about 7am mountain time (9am Eastern, 6am Pacific) I will post the meteorites on my planetwhy.com site. I am posting the material at this time to m

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 11:00 PM 9/16/2003 +, you wrote: The concept of a red planet as the result of meteorite bombardment is absurd. Maybe not, if you have the right kind of planet, namely one with an atmosphere and appropriate oxidizing compounds. Albert Yen and colleagues wrote a paper about this a bit in _

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Tom, Every year the Earth receives tens of thousands of tons of extraterrestial dust. Most of it is ablated from meteorites entering the atmosphere, but a small amount is cometary, and solar system dust, and even a smidge of interstellar dust. The best place to find it is in deep ocean

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] CH or CB Chondrite?

2003-09-16 Thread j . divelbiss
Jeff, Thank you for the explanation and clarification that clans do not necessarily tie two groups together...though they are thought to be related due to similarities. So it goes something like this... (with a few questions at the bottom). Class: Carbonaceous Groups: CB3a, CB3b, CH, CR2

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread joseph_town
Philip, The concept of a red planet as the result of meteorite bombardment is absurd. As you and others have pointed out, water and oxygen are not necessary for oxidization. We have plenty of areas on earth that are pretty bleak but we all know about geological time as opposed to our own inabil

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 09:05 PM 9/16/2003 +, you wrote: Good point Tom. Also, Philip, I apologise for the fact that I don't have the link to the info. about oxidization without the element oxygen, in whatever compound. It's way beyond me. Are so many well educated people so set in their ways as to disregard the o

[meteorite-list] Big Boom Heard Over Canada

2003-09-16 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=community/nanaimo&articleID=1409513 Big bang prompts search for meteor Nanaimo News Bulletin (Canada) September 15, 2003 Where were you when the big boom hit? Bill Weller wants people to answer that question to help find what he believes caused t

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 01:48 PM 9/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hey list, If mars is red from dust covering the planet, why are the polar caps not red also? Wouldn't they be like giant cherry snowcones? As it happens, the southern (thicker) polar cap on Mars IS slightly red. Presumably the tint comes from oxidized dust

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread joseph_town
Good point Tom. Also, Philip, I apologise for the fact that I don't have the link to the info. about oxidization without the element oxygen, in whatever compound. It's way beyond me. Are so many well educated people so set in their ways as to disregard the obvious? Bill Kieskowski > Hey list

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hey list, If mars is red from dust covering the planet, why are the polar caps not red also? Wouldn't they be like giant cherry snowcones? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Philip R. Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 08:49 AM 9/16/2003 +0100, you wrote: On a similar note ... why is the Lunar surface Grey and Mars red if they are both resurfaced by meteorites, likewise wouldn't we expect other rocky bodies/planets to be red too especially those with a thin atmosphere? Surley the only process that would tur

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread joann breitbarth
I read a bit about that red planet idea. It said that water and oxygen are not necessary for oxidization of iron. If that's true the moon should be redder than Mars since it doesn't have the extreme weather patterns that would mix a thin sediment of oxidized meteoric residue with the rest of

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Howard Wu
When I go into Yosemite the cliffs are grey. When I am in Zion they are red. Go figure?   Howard Wumark ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a similar note ... why is the Lunar surface Grey and Mars red ifthey are both resurfaced by meteorites, likewise wouldn't we expectother rocky bodies/planets t

Re-4: [meteorite-list] Oroville California, Iron.

2003-09-16 Thread bernd . pauli
Mike Farmer wrote: > That is great Frank, this meteorite has alot of history > with it and there is virtually none in private hands. Frank wrote: > "The meteorites of California" by C.P. Butler ... Hi Mike, Frank, and List, Another interesting tidbit culled from Buchwald's trilogy: "During t

[meteorite-list] eBay auction plug - delete if not interested!!!

2003-09-16 Thread Dave Harris
Hi there, well, as much as I'd love to offer a 188g lump of Zagami starting at $0.99.. I'm afraid all I have are micros of the following due to the fact that I have managed to replace what I got with slightly larger specimens: Acapulco (class type) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ca

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Oroville California, Iron.

2003-09-16 Thread Michael Farmer
That is great Frank, this meteorite has alot of history with it and there is virtually none in private hands. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "fcressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "william anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Farmer" <[EMA

[meteorite-list] columbus new mexico main mass

2003-09-16 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I just received from mike cottingham, my 45.9 gram individual of COLUMBUS, new mexico.What a great piece.This is the main mass.Only 165 grams of this puppy.Mike found this piece.Thanks again for making it available. steve arnold = Ste

[meteorite-list] Re: Mars & Meteors; was, Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread Robert Verish
http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2003-September/026701.html -- [meteorite-list] Serious question? mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:49:51 +0100 On a similar note ... why is the Lunar surface Grey and Mars red if they are both resurfaced by me

Re: [meteorite-list] dronino (in)stability: a solution ?

2003-09-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello all I have just sent to Steve a piece of Dronino for text the method antyrusty, I hope he find a good method. Regards Matteo --- John Gwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rust Sufferers, > > You might consider using Steve Schoner's tried and > true sodium hydroxide > process. I had sev

Re: [meteorite-list] dronino (in)stability: a solution ?

2003-09-16 Thread John Gwilliam
Rust Sufferers, You might consider using Steve Schoner's tried and true sodium hydroxide process. I had several slices of old Campo that would rust no matter how may times I polished them or how dry I kept them. Then, two years ago, I used the sodium hydroxide process and the slices have been

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Oroville California, Iron.

2003-09-16 Thread fcressy
Hello Bernd, Bill, Mike and all, As Paul Harvey would say, I thought I'd add to "the rest of the story". Mike had mentioned that the Oroville meteorite survived the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco and was recovered from the museum ruins. In the article, "The meteorites of California" by C.P. Butl

[meteorite-list] dronino (in)stability: a solution ?

2003-09-16 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hello Steve, Matteo, List, Dronino seems to be very versatile to rusting indeed. -I got a small slice from Sergey Vasiliev in May 2003 with not any rust problem so far (now about 4 months after). -I purchesed 2 other slices in Ensisheim (June 21) from Serguei (Serge) Afanasiev and one month afte

RE: [meteorite-list] Deans BL:Mike Farmers Links:Steve Arnolds Mayan piece

2003-09-16 Thread mark ford
Yo, Welcome to the list Jim, (I have known jim for a while, thoroughly good bloke!) I must admit I haven't managed to find any links on mikes site that don't work and all the auction links seem to work too. So Maybe it's your browser settings? Regards, Mark Ford _

Re: [meteorite-list] Deans BL:Mike Farmers Links:Steve Arnolds Mayan piece

2003-09-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
> I've been thinking of going to the Munich show in > November as a little birthday treat to myself.Can > anyone enlighten me about possible dealers who might > be at the show,bargains to look out for there? Munich Show 31 October - 1/2 November http://www.mineralientage.de/ many meteorite deal

[meteorite-list] Deans BL:Mike Farmers Links:Steve Arnolds Mayan piece

2003-09-16 Thread jim
Hello list I'd like to start by introducing myself formally as I don't believe I did.My name is Jim Brady and I live in Belfast,Ireland(technically Northern Ireland but let's not get political) and I've been interested in astronomy for many many years since I was a young lad.About 3 or 4

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] CH or CB Chondrite?

2003-09-16 Thread Jeff Grossman
At 10:30 PM 9/15/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. If all these variations on CB's and CH's are actually part of the CR clan, then why don't we start with calling them CR's, and then give them a suffix of some kind to differentiate them CRL(low metal), CRB-1 and CRB-2, CRH(high metal), etc.. De

Re: [meteorite-list] dronino stability

2003-09-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello Dronino have high problem with rust, I am under search a method for stop this. Regards Matteo --- "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again list.Could someone please let me know > how stable the DRONINO > meteorite is?I mean versus campo, nantan, and some > other

[meteorite-list] dronino stability

2003-09-16 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hello again list.Could someone please let me know how stable the DRONINO meteorite is?I mean versus campo, nantan, and some other iron pieces.I am trying to decide whether or not to buy some.I, like mike blood like to collect only stone or stoney-irons, but like to take a chance on a good stable i

[meteorite-list] EBAY AUCTIONS ENDING

2003-09-16 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Good morning list.Just a reminder, I have 7 auctions ending in less than 3 and half hours.This is chicago time.All ending by 10:00 am chicago time.4 of them have buy it now.Everyone have a good day. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 6

[meteorite-list] Jupiter probe nears fiery end

2003-09-16 Thread mark ford
  Jupiter probe nears fiery end see.   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3109892.stm    

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-16 Thread mark ford
On a similar note ... why is the Lunar surface Grey and Mars red if they are both resurfaced by meteorites, likewise wouldn't we expect other rocky bodies/planets to be red too especially those with a thin atmosphere? Surley the only process that would turn meteorite dust into red soil is oxyge