[meteorite-list] sun correction

2005-07-19 Thread Dave Harris
Hi, The surface temperature is a relatively cool 31000K (i.e. colder than our Sun). ..Hi Bernd, I think you must mean 3100k - our photospheric temp is 5700k! Finger trouble I know! pedantically yours dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org

RE: [meteorite-list] Mars rover pollution

2005-07-19 Thread mark ford
Hi, I'd like to chip in here as this is one of my all time major soapbox issues! The point about sterilising the Rovers being 'very difficult' is a fair one, but how the hell can you send a probe to potentially look for signs of life, when it is carrying unknown and possibly yet-undiscovered

[meteorite-list] unlimited budget?

2005-07-19 Thread Dawn Gerald Flaherty
I am sure they could have sterilised the rovers once in space if they had the will,[and the money]parenthesis my own. Hi Marc and List, NASA's tight finances don't allow them to pursue every great idea that comes down the pike. The reality is working within strict constraints to maintain a viable

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread Marc Fries
Howdy Unscientific, eh? (--truly vile response deleted---) No, I wasn't there when the samples were analyzed. Hell, I wasn't even born yet. Luckily for me that's not a prerequisite for owning a fully functioning iota of horse sense. None of the other samples, either from the lunar

[meteorite-list] strange magnetic rock from China

2005-07-19 Thread Moser Francesco
Hi All, few week ago an Italian mineral collector received from China some boxes full of mineral and rock, he found some heavy stone. He gave me one of this strange, very heavy and highly magnetic object. Here's a pictures (172Kb): http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Mekong.jpg I think this

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke
First off, the microbes on the Surveyor camera were most likely introduced by the astronauts themselves during handling. The camera was kept in the Apollo lander and then the command module along with the astronauts, without any sort of contamination protection, for the entire trip back

[meteorite-list] A nice H3

2005-07-19 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello I have put 2 slices of a new H3 chondrite, NWA 2179, take a look to the nice matrix full of chondrules http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6547434413rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke
Mark F. wrote: First off, the microbes on the Surveyor camera were most likely introduced by the astronauts themselves during handling. Mark, Where were you when the damage was supposedly done in Nov. 1969? You speak quite authoritatively, as if you were sitting there in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Mark Fr. wrote: There's also a non-zero probability that gravity will reverse, time will speed up suddenly, evolution will cease, and that monkeys will fly out of my butt. Hi Mark, Now that was a vile (bile?) respone! Was it from a John Carrey movie or an original? I'll keep my reply

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke
1 to 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376. The above number represents the probability of a coin being flipped 100 times and yielding 100 tails in a row. Maybe I missed a factor of two, but that is really not important. (and for 50 times it is still on the order of

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke
1. What you seemed to be emphasizing in your first post was the probability that the astronauts contaminated specifically the (apparently virgin) part of the camera insulation during there journey back to earth. To me, the most likely point of contamination occurred when the camera

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars life concerns

2005-07-19 Thread Marc Fries
To borrow from Jim Carrey, Alrighty then! We'll go one at a time here... 1. What you seemed to be emphasizing in your first post was the probability that the astronauts contaminated specifically the (apparently virgin) part of the camera insulation during there journey back to earth. 1)

[meteorite-list] AD - NEW L3.8 - Gorgeous, Large Slices

2005-07-19 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members, I would like to announce a new and beautiful L3.8, NWA 2704. I was able to get some nice large slices from this fresh meteorite. You will find these competitively priced under my eBay seller name, naturesvault. Here are the direct links to what is available on eBay (a few

[meteorite-list] Bizarre Boulders Litter Enceladus' Surface

2005-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn7692--bizarre-boulders-litter-saturn-moons-icy-surface.html Bizarre boulders litter Saturn moon's icy surface Stuart Clark New Scientist 19 July 2005 The Cassini spacecraft has coasted to its closest encounter yet - skimming just 175 kilometres

[meteorite-list] Meteorites as hosts for seeds of life

2005-07-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Mark Fr. wrote: To borrow from Jim Carrey, Alrighty then!...a cautionary tale about letting your hopes make a fool of your reason. Until Ace Ventura, no actor had considered talking through his ***. ...Jim Carrey Definitely no further comments (I already promised), let me add another

[meteorite-list] Ward's Meteorite Casts

2005-07-19 Thread mineral
Does anybody have or know of a reference for pictures of the Ward's meteorite casts? I received a cast and a label but I don't think the label matches the cast. Any help would be greatly appricheated. __ Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] want social circle

2005-07-19 Thread harlan trammell
want to buy 10g min. of social circle, ga. for ca$h or can trade 13g sardis, ga for it. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as hosts for seeds of life

2005-07-19 Thread batkol
can't help but think that when it comes to life, we should appropriate Pascal's third wager, and always bet on it. in whatever form, wherever we look, life, like faith, manages. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as hosts for seeds of life

2005-07-19 Thread batkol
Melt Through the Ice to Find Life Jul 19, 2005 - Scientists can tell us what our climate on Earth was like in past by examining ice cores taken from glaciers. Tiny bubbles of air are trapped in the ice and maintain a historical record of ancient atmospheres. The effects of life make their mark

[meteorite-list] dag 749

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I am looking for a piece of DAG 749,CO3.About 10 to 30 grams.Slice,fragment,endcut,individual.It does not matter.Please get back to me offlist.Thanks! steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!

[meteorite-list] Oriented meteorite

2005-07-19 Thread Bob Evans
Hi List, I am looking for any oriented meteorite, except irons. Please get back to me off list! Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] THE ODDS OF LIFE

2005-07-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Everybody! Probabilities are tricky things. When they're imponderable, they just can not be estimated, except by guess and golly. Doug draws one conclusion from 100 bacteria. Marc draws the opposite. As for the mathematical odds of either one's case, it's like whether you like broccoli or

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as hosts for seeds of life

2005-07-19 Thread Marc Fries
Mark Fr. wrote: To borrow from Jim Carrey, Alrighty then!...a cautionary tale about letting your hopes make a fool of your reason. Until Ace Ventura, no actor had considered talking through his ***. ...Jim Carrey Ah yes - Hollywood; ever the source of wit. Half of it, anyway.