Re: [meteorite-list] Google Earth (Map) Question was "New Impact Structures"

2006-05-05 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hey Paul, The website below may help you some. I think it will give much of the information you may be seeking. http://www.terraserver.com/ Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Paul To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-lis

[meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Rob, Since you felt it necessary to step up, claim guilt and show disrespect for a leader in Meteoritics, I felt I had better respond publicly. Dr. Irving has earned a Ph.D. and the Nom Com votes on his submissions. I think these qualifications speak for themselves as far as qualifying rocks. Of

[meteorite-list] Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Rob Wesel
Perhaps the term should be "Officially Sorted By A Scientist Over A Few Beers" or "OSBASOAFB's" Just what could Dr Irving do in the field that I can't do in my office. Did he have his field SEM with him, his field ion microprobe, his field polarascope? Or was he a fish out of water without his

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Pete Pete
Hi, Adam and all, Which would you rather have, a self proclaimed pairing or pieces that have been examined by a competent scientist? The "self-proclaimed pairing" I'm sure would be much cheaper, and that's the one I'd rather [buy]! There are many levels of priorities for the assortment of c

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Adam Hupe
The excuse that I have 3,000 pieces of what looks like the same stone won't fly. As I stated before, every piece of NWA 1110 was examined by a Nom Com approved scientist. NWA 3118, which consisted of thousands of pieces was thoroughly gone through by Dr. Irving in the field, in Morocco. Dr. Bunc

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - May 5, 2006

2006-05-05 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Begins First Interplanetary Layer-by-Layer Soil Analysis - sol 828-834, May 05, 2006: Spirit is healthy and continuing to make progress on the rover's winter campaign of scientific experiments. This week Spirit continued wo

AW: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Martin Altmann
Shalala. Mainly for a dealer it is a economical decision, whether a stone has to be classified. Classification means: To deposite a share of 20% or 20g, to wait a year++ until a stone is ready for sale or to pay for the classification. A collector has to think about the abilities of a seller, to

RE: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread dean bessey
I still think this is carried to the point of argueuing "My meteorites are better than your meteorites" although there are valid points to the arguement and no easy answer - especially the extreme difficulty getting classifications or even a provisional name from the met society. However, the coin

RE: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread stan .
when there is a way to be sure you're getting the real deal and the IMCA are helping in that regard. well thats the thing. following 'the rules' as Adam put it isnt a sure fire was of making sure you have a 100% guagantee of buying what you thought you were buying. There have been many case

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread David Weir
Hello Rob, I don't believe that a new find can ever be considered absolutely and without a doubt to be paired with another meteorite or group of meteorites that have already been analyzed and classified under a specific name. The best that can be said is that it is "likely" paired. You would

RE: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Rob McCafferty
I know better than to get involved in this discussion but I am going to anyway > there are no 'rules' when it comes to offering > material for sale (other than > not violating copyrights). The NomCom, the IMCA and > Adam Hupe are NOT > regulatory bodies who have the authority to police > the hob

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread tracy latimer
IMHO, there is significant difference between someone fraudulently proclaiming (without doing the legwork) "This meteorite IS paired with " and someone saying "This meteorite I BELIEVE TO BE paired with " or "This meteorite MIGHT BE paired with ". If the latter, I want to see larg

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread stan .
Yea but... A PCGS rated coin is worth a lot more than a dealer's self proclaimed rating which means nothing no matter how honest he may be perceived. Same for baseball cards. Borrowing a serial number from an officially rated baseball card would be considered fraudulent. A dealer rating a

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Rob Wesel
Thanks for your thoughts Adam, your rants have become so tedious you now have acronyms for them. Can you point me in the direction of a lab that can analyze about 3000 fragments, I need to get these little guys some numbers? TTFN, Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Yea but... A PCGS rated coin is worth a lot more than a dealer's self proclaimed rating which means nothing no matter how honest he may be perceived. Same for baseball cards. Borrowing a serial number from an officially rated baseball card would be considered fraudulent. A dealer rating a card a

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread David Weir
yea but... Stan wrote: there are no 'rules' when it comes to offering material for sale (other than not violating copyrights). The NomCom, the IMCA and Adam Hupe are NOT regulatory bodies who have the authority to police the hobby/industry nor make binding resolutions that must be followed. C

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Again, The question was brought up about who I am talking about. I won't publicly mention names at this point but will if the violations continue. Another point off-List was brought up about ID cards. It may seem obvious but even if you make your own ID cards, you should save the previous one

RE: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread stan .
Collectors are entitled to official material or at the very least provisional if the rules are being adhered to. *snip* The rules have been clear for the last two years and to continually violate them will only serve to undermine collector confidence. there are no 'rules' when it comes to of

Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Adam, Who are you writing about? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI) Dear List Members, Here are some of my tho

Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay seller "AZPotpourri"

2006-05-05 Thread Walter Branch
WOW! Just about every mistake that could be made when selling meteorites on ebay is on that one page. It's amazing, really. There has to be some kind of record here. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 05, 20

[meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, Here are some of my thoughts on Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI). I feel this subject needs to be breached again as a few have not caught on to how destructive and lowly this practice is. Saying something is "likely paired" is the same as saying "I am too cheap or lazy t

[meteorite-list] Google Earth (Map) Question was "New Impact Structures"

2006-05-05 Thread Paul
Jeff Kuyken wrote: "Or click here for a pic for those of you without Google Earth, etc" When using Google Earth or Google Maps, is there some way of finding out what the metadata, i.e. source, date, kind, resolution, etc., of the imagery for the area being viewed? Best regards, Paul

RE: [meteorite-list] Fireball reported over Tucson

2006-05-05 Thread Robert Woolard
--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > " I have recovered (along with partners > or found myself) now 6 > Lunar meteorites now out of 42 known." Congratulations, Mike. Wow! 6 out of 42 Lunars. That's quite an impressive record. Best wishes, Robert Woolard

Re: [meteorite-list] possible impact crater (database)

2006-05-05 Thread Robert Verish
Hello List, and all of those interested in Impact Research. Here is a useful link: http://xrl.us/craters Hope this helps in your research. Bob V. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/list

[meteorite-list] Will Winter Kill The Mars Rovers?

2006-05-05 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=4220 Will winter kill the Mars rovers? Spirit and Opportunity prepare for a second winter on Mars. Michael Carroll Astronomy Magazine May 4, 2006 With temperatures plummeting on Mars, the twin rovers Spirit and Opportunity have been literally raci

[meteorite-list] Comet Schwassmann-Wachmann 3's Breakup Near Earth Offers Viewing Spectacle

2006-05-05 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/health/bal-hs.comet05may05,0,7176805.story Comet's breakup near Earth offers viewing spectacle By Frank D. Roylance Baltimore Sun May 5, 2006 Astronomers will have a ringside seat during the coming weeks as a dying comet with a tongue-twisting name flies past the

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 1-5, 2006

2006-05-05 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES May 1-5, 2006 o Windstreaks (Released 01 May 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060501a o Crater Slide (Released 02 May 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060502a o Ares Vallis (Released 03 May 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060503a o Clouds (Released 04 Ma

[meteorite-list] Cassini Flies by Titan, Sees More Craters

2006-05-05 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassinif-20060503.html Cassini Flies by Titan, Sees More Craters May 3, 2006 Saturn's moon Titan continued to surprise scientists during a flyby that took Cassini into regions previously unexplored by radar. Two very noticeable circular features, p

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - May 4, 2006

2006-05-05 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: 'Victoria' in View - sol 804-810, May 04, 2006: Opportunity executed a three-sol examination of "Brookville" outcrop with tools on the robotic arm. This work included microscopic imaging, a brushing, 16 total hour

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: possible impact crater -- Nicaragua, Chad, Algeria

2006-05-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Sterling, All, I do realize that the 'craters' that I found were not, indeed, holes in the ground.   However, the 'craters' that I found, would not be depressions as you described.  Each consists of features well over ~15-20km across, the diameter necessary to create a complex crater, and wo

Re: [meteorite-list] PA Bolide of July 23rd 2001

2006-05-05 Thread KHe1144783
In a message dated 5/4/2006 10:45:01 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went back East and interviewed eye-witnesses andtriangulated their sightings.  I narrowed-down JimRichardson's original results to an area in Central PAsomewhere south of Coudersport and west of

[meteorite-list] sale ad. Darwin glass

2006-05-05 Thread Dippl Family
Hello List. My first ad ever. I posted it here not do much to spruik the ebay auction ,rather ,so the list knows who is behind it.(dont let that stop anybody mind :-)   ). Regards from Oz Peter Dippl http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6627490963&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3

[meteorite-list] sale ad. Darwin glass

2006-05-05 Thread Dippl Family
Hello List. My first ad ever. I posted it here not do much to spruik the ebay auction ,rather ,so the list knows who is behind it.(dont let that stop anybody mind :-) ). Regards from Oz Peter Dippl http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6627490963&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE

[meteorite-list] ad Hello everyone I have out of touch for a while. Sale

2006-05-05 Thread Mike Miller
Hello everyone I have moved to Northern California, I think I figured out how to get this e-mail through to the list. (I hope) This is my new e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sent a message to everyone in my address book, but many of them did not go through. So I hope I will get back in touch with som

RE: [meteorite-list] Fireball reported over Tucson

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Well Mr Afonso, I have recovered (along with parters or found myself) now 6 Lunar meteorites now out of 42 known, so I am pretty good at it. One is already classified in the lab, and will be announced any minute. The other is already on it's way to the lab, but if you knew anything about meteorites

AW: [meteorite-list] RE: Doing the rounds -Part I

2006-05-05 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Sterling, I feared, that with my bad english, I would have to write an long reply, let's try. It is NOT NOT TRUE! First of all, perhaps to clarify, I was speaking about the times roughly beginning at 800 A.D., when here in Europe the broad mass of text-witnesses starts to appear. And there you