Re: AW: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
Not really. If it IS a meteorite from mars it is priceless and you could truck it around the world six times without detracting noticably from its value. If its NOT [which it obviously isnt] the local Universities or museums might pay some $$$ and send a truck for it. A good sized fork

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
I'm focused on the specimen, not the man. Gary On 13 May 2006 at 17:11, Howard Steffic wrote: CRACKPOT = Waste of time. From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay Date: Sat, 13 May

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2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
and the sky would be blue and the roses and the hematite of New Hampshire would blossom redder than eve Very entertaining Martin. But regarding dreams - a man without dreams is a hollow man. I seek the truth in this thing. I have not made conclusions ahead of evidence. But I do believe

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2006-05-13 Thread Martin Altmann
There is no harm at all, I only wanted to warn you, that some people don't want to give up their dreams... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gary K. Foote Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2006 01:34 An: Martin Altmann Cc:

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Göran Axelsson
I'm sorry for going a bit off topic here but I couldn't keep this for my self. What a coincidens, last week I got a mail from S. Ray DeRusse of Boggy Creek Collection ( although I liked your name better, Bogey Creek lunatics, it's more descriptive). He accuses me of Mr. Axelsson is engaged

[meteorite-list] Re: The other Brenham hunter

2006-05-13 Thread R. N. Hartman
Case in point: I was the first person to decide to search Dry Lakes for meteorites, and this turned up the Lucerne Dry Lake (CA) finds, the initial find on July 21, 1963. No one else seemed to very much care about hunting on Dry Lakes then. Many hours were spent searching a number of Dry Lakes

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Howard Steffic
OK,: FAKE MARS ROCK = waste of time From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 19:26:20 -0400 I'm focused on the

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Pete Pete
That's the point - how do you know until it has been properly examined? For the past year or so this list, although unanimous in contempt for this rock and ad, has only had varied speculation on it. I don’t know about you, but I certainly am curious as to what it is. Gary, and his lab, will

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2006-05-13 Thread joseph_town
What is all this? Why is everyone wasting their breath? The man must be pretty slick. Gary sure seems to be quite taken with him. Like any charleton he'll use whatever means he has to achieve his ends. The sickest part is that it's in the name of religion. I'm sure he doesn't give a hoot about

[meteorite-list] For the love of meteorites, STOP

2006-05-13 Thread Michael Farmer
My god people, I was in Dallas and barely 3 hours later by the time I flew home, there are more than 30 new messages regarding the stupid fake mars rock on ebay. We have been dealing with this fruitcake for years, so please, STOP FEEDING THE FRENZY and forget this nutjob. I for one, am sick of

RE: [meteorite-list] For the love of meteorites, STOP

2006-05-13 Thread Pete Pete
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'metlist' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] For the love of meteorites, STOP Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:54:50 -0700 My god people, I was in Dallas and barely 3 hours later by the time I flew home, there are more than 30 new

RE: [meteorite-list] For the love of meteorites, STOP

2006-05-13 Thread Pete Pete
Hi, Mike, I guess you didn't read any of the early posts in this thread - it CAN be solved! Gary has some samples for the lab, and there will soon be a legitimate, definitive end to it. No one thinks it's from Mars, or Voltar, but it seems to me that if you have a scientific interest in

RE: [meteorite-list] For the love of meteorites, STOP

2006-05-13 Thread joseph_town
The man isn't interested in selling it. It's his ploy. A way to attract attention. No amount of effort matters to him. He won't sell his lucky charm now or in the future. Expect to see his ad for years to come unless ebay stops him. Bill -- Original message

RE: [meteorite-list] BREAK! For the love of meteorites, STOP

2006-05-13 Thread Pete Pete
Hello, List, There has been over thirty posts in this thread with barely an interruption. Nothing else to talk about? While curious about the composition of this rock only from a geology perspective, I too would rather read a lengthy discussion about something more relative to the list.

Re: [meteorite-list] Giant Asteroid Fragment Makes Impact

2006-05-13 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Two things I don't believe in: coincidences and leprechauns. OK, I could be wrong about the coincidence, but I'm right about the leprechauns, aren't I? I wrote: But Morokwong is a buried crater, not visible on the surface. It is in fact only visualized by magnetic and

[meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Meteoriteshow
Hi All, I was checking what I could find interesting on ebay when I happened to fall on this auction that was already mentioned several time on the List: http://cgi.ebay.com/Possibly-The-Worlds-Largest-Mars-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ6626341789QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Does anybody know how

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
Easy - the man tells the truth. His verification is by personal vision and he makes that perfectly clear. Therefore there is no fraud. Gary On 13 May 2006 at 18:10, Meteoriteshow wrote: Hi All, I was checking what I could find interesting on ebay when I happened to fall on this

[meteorite-list] THE GIBEON WAVE

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
Wow!!!I just cannot believe that anyone would let this great hand crafted beauty just be allowed in Greg hupes' house without a buyer.As much as he tried to sell this beauty,I still cannot believe no one bought this beaut.Well then I decided to buy it.I do not know who carved this up,but it is

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 13 May 2006 12:06:19 -0400, you wrote: Easy - the man tells the truth. His verification is by personal vision and he makes that perfectly clear. Therefore there is no fraud. Right. He's not a conman-- he's just a freaking nutjob. __

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
Hi Darren, He is different. I have met him and have seen this supposed meteorite up close. I have some crumbs and small chips but have two 6 X 1/2 slices coming to me soon. I have also arranged for two more slices to go to reputable geologists to find out just what it is. Whatever it

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Pete Pete
Hi, Gary and all, Once the rock has been positively identified as terrestrial by the lab, I wonder if it technically could still be advertised as a possible meteorite on eBay thereafter, simply by the support of the vision. Otherwise, everyone with a piece of furnace slag can represent it as

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
I agree with you Pete. If it is incontrovertibly identified as terrestrial then he can no longer claim it is what his vision showed him as it would then be fraud. JMO Gary On 13 May 2006 at 15:38, Pete Pete wrote: Hi, Gary and all, Once the rock has been positively identified as

Re: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 13 May 2006 14:20:05 -0400, you wrote: Still, he will, in my opinion, retain his personal beliefs about its origin. I would be shocked if he ever did change his mind. Given the choice between a.) facing the idea that he WASN'T gifted with a meteorite by The Big Meteorite Gifter In The

[meteorite-list] American Chondrites needed

2006-05-13 Thread Bob Evans
Hello, If you have any USA chondrites for sale or trade , individuals or slices preferrably larger pieces, please let me know. Thanks Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - May 13, 2006

2006-05-13 Thread Metorman46
Michael;Beautiful picture,and as always Anne Black has a spectacular specimen.A great dealer.Thanks for sharing with us. Herman. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

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2006-05-13 Thread Metorman46
In a message dated 5/13/2006 12:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: fake Mars back on ebay __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Metorman46
This is one that ebay should require to be authenticated by the owner.Of course by a real authority.IMCA might help on this one,if possible.Just a thought. Herman. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread MexicoDoug
If it is a religious justification, science just plain doesn't count. The vision allegedly happened and thus the scientific method is not applicable to a believer. Anyone buying a religious vision simply will have to do it on faith and not look for a relationship of convenience with science,

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Howard Steffic
I am going to go out on a limb and make two predictions: 1) It is terrestrial. I will bet my first born on it. 2) The guy is a nut case and Jesus Christ himself could tell him it is not from Mars and the Ebay Auctions would continue. I wouldn't cross the street to give the guy the time of

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Göran Axelsson
I have written before about this martian meteorite but this is something I sent outside the meteorite list last summer. I've also sent it to the seller but I've never got any answer back. There is a similar rock only three hours drive from my home. It's suspended in a similar way and makes a

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Ingo Herkstroeter
Hi Folks! I can´t wait to see, what will happen, if he start the auction at $ 1,-! O FOLKS, only the shipping. :) Cheers! Ingo --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] fake

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks Goran - Sure looks like similar specimen. Huge, eh? Gary On 13 May 2006 at 23:12, Göran Axelsson wrote: I have written before about this martian meteorite but this is something I sent outside the meteorite list last summer. I've also sent it to the seller but I've never got any

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Pete Pete
Science is the search for truth. I don't think Gary is wasting any time, at all! Cheers, Pete From: Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:00:35 -0600 I am going to go out on a

AW: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Hehe, I'd like the idea, that it could be a specularite. Anyway, the problem with such people is, as nice they can be, it is impossible to convince them, that their finds aren't meteorites. I had several, almost tragic cases, where finders even had confirmations from different labs, that their

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2006-05-13 Thread Gary K. Foote
Right - up to the point where it becomes fraudlent representation. I'm not sure of the legalities of his trying to sell it as a meteorite from Mars if it has been classified otherwise by multiple institutions. I will certainly advise him of my reservations in that area. Gary On 14 May

Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay

2006-05-13 Thread Howard Steffic
CRACKPOT = Waste of time. From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fake Mars back on ebay Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:27:59 -0400 Science is the search for truth. I don't think Gary is wasting any time, at all!

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2006-05-13 Thread batkol
don't you think it would be irrelevant to the buyer of this meteorite if was authentic or not? the fool who buys it for that price and has to pick it up--really for that price spring for freight--is the one who's nuts. carpe noctem. take care susan - Original Message - From: Gary

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2006-05-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Let's see it this way: If anyone reads his description of that auction and seriously thinks then, wow, that man is a second Jacob with his dream of the Heaven's ladder, it MUST be a Martian meteorite and will buy it, then I really have no doubts, that the buyer will be very happy with this rock.