Hi Rob,
I join those who say CM.
- Marco
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Are any of you familiar with this? Am wondering if
it is actually recorded under another name.
Mark Bostick- I haven't checked your site yet to
see if you cover this- sorry if you already have.
Mike
http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/071706meteor.html
On 7/17/06, Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The crust is wrong for a CO3. The famous Out House Hammer Stone, I can
smell history in the making!
Hi Adam,
In what way do you think the crust is wrong for a CO3?
Just curious.
Martin
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I have over 50 meteorites ending tonight on ebay, some
great items!
All but one listed starting at one cent!
I am leaving for Norway, so please make plans to
paypal for any wins so I can ship them right out.
Some examples and key items:
DAG 476, shergottite, very nice partslice.
Mike G. wrote:
Dayton is the *weirdest* one of its group, McCoy said.
Again, that makes it special and the reason scientists
want to study it.
Here are some of those weird things:
1. It's a member of the silicate-bearing IIICD group: Carlton, Dayton, Maltahöhe
2. Ni content: Maltahöhe (10.7 wt%
Some short google search - some CO3-crust pics.
Lancé:
http://www.mnhn.fr/expo/meteorite/index/img/france/lance.jpg
http://www.meteorite.ch/en/oriented/Oriented/lance.jpg
Ornans:
http://www.mnhn.fr/expo/meteorite/index/img/france/ornans.jpg
Kainsaz
Darren writes:
This is probably the 752 gram one shown in this article:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1391556.ece
Note the line toward the end of the article:
The family is donating the meteorite to the Museum of Natural History
in Oslo.
Will the Johansen family get a tax
July 18th updated Norwegian fall guess summary:
Bjorn Sorheim: OC
Bernd Pauli: LL5 or LL6
Pat Brown: carbonaceous
Marcin Cimala: CO3 or CM
Mark Ford: CV3 (Allende-like)
Matteo Chinellato: CM
Martin Altman: CO3 (Kainsaz)
Martin Horejsi: CO3 (Ornans)
Frederic Beroud: CO3
Ingo Herkstroeter:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1391556.ece
Family finds another meteorite
Rolf Larsen
Aftenpoften (Norway)
July 18, 2006
The Johansen family of Moss had a surprise waiting when they returned
home from vacation.
Astronomers in Norway are calling the discovery of meteorites
http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1756_1.asp
Saturn's Spare Tire
By Selby Cull
Sky Telescope
July 17, 2006
For some people, extra weight goes straight to their
hips. For others, it's the beer belly. The same is true for planets.
Over the last year, NASA's Cassini spacecraft has
I'm going to go with the guys who are voting for the LL5 or LL6. I'm still
not sure about the magnetism (it seems stronger than a carbonaceous
chondrite should have), although thank you everyone for adding to my store
of info about CCs. Just my unsophisticated WAG!
Tracy Latimer
From:
Hi All,
I will be in the area East of Reno (Fernley,NV)in mid
August (probably the hottest time of the year!). I
plan to do a couple days of meteorite hunting on the
dry lakebeds in the area. I am a novice at meteorite
hunting. I have been collecting meteorites for 15
years plus and have spent a
Thanks, Martin.
Kainsaz
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/images/kainsaz/DSCN5251-cp.jpg
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/images/kainsaz/DSCN5252-cp.jpg
The 752g one really looks like those two pics of Kainsaz: the fusion crust
really looks the same.
Then the inside structure that
Hi Fred, Martin and All,
Here is a link to a pic of the crust on one of my Lance' slices.
http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/lance.jpg
When I compared my crusted CO piece-in-hand with the pics from Norway,
I see nothing in the crust or anything else that indicates to me that
a CO should be
I think it might be a C1.It will be nice to get a piece of this soon.
steve arnold,chicago,usa!!
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
pages.ebay.com
Hi Martin and All,
I don not think images are a good way to ascertain classifications but in
this case I took a S.W.A.G. at it in the interest of fun. I think the crust
is wrong for a CO3 because virtually every sample of a CO3 I have seen has
very fine contraction cracks, some do not even
Hi Adam,
I agree that third-hand Internet-based visual means are an extremely
poor, unreliable, ineffective, and highly inappropriate method of
classifying meteorites. But I also agree that it is fun.
Your scientific wild-assed guess and mine likely differ based upon our
personal experiences
Here is a great image on Mike Farmer's site that shows the contraction
cracks on a CO3 fall, Thank you Martin Altmann for providing this link
earlier. If you look very closely, you will see the faint webwork of
contraction cracks so typical of CO3s:
Sure, A Margarita would be a fair wager! I like mine on the rocks!
Take Care,
Adam
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Make mine with rocks and salt.
Here is a pic from S-V meteorites I pulled from Pele's Europa CD of
meteorites. Note the missing contraction cracks on this fragment of
Ornans.
http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/ornans_sergei_vassiliev.jpg
Cheers,
Martin
On 7/18/06, Adam Hupe [EMAIL
Very good image! It will be fun to see what this new fall really is. If
nothing else, it will prove how unreliable images can be and will emphasize
the importance of having a laboratory characterize these rocks. I found
this to be true in the Mystery Main Mass contests of the past.
In the name
http://fernlea.tripod.com/kainsaz2.jpg
And that Kainsaz has no cracks...
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Nor is it flat black and velvety.
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OK Adam, I'll see your supersized margarita at the Birthday Bash, and
raise you a beer at Blood's auction.
Since you think it is an H4, S1-2, W0, and I think it is a CO3.2 S0,
W0, we only agree on one obvious element in our classification
S.W.A.G. However I suggest that there be a winner
Problem is, we have only 5 fresh CO3 falls, and there aren't so much pics
around
Hmm did you note, that small specimens do have more often contraction cracks
than larger ones?
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Hmm did you note, that small specimens do have more often contraction
cracks
than larger ones?
More surface area to mass in the case of small objects. Interesting
observation.
Adam
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Martin A. noted:
Hmm did you note, that small specimens do have more often contraction cracks
than larger ones?
Good question/observation. I have not noticed that in my experience.
Only that the cracks are proportionate to the size of the specimen.
Other thoughts on it?
Martin
Or perhaps, cause the smaller specimens break of later in the air, can
develope only a thinner crust, which contracts easier than a thicker one?
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An:
Dear List
Members,Some auctions by kayunwar are ending in about 2 days,
including:
- some great
FUSION CRUSTED complete individuals from the Sahara (one of them weighs 1293g
and is still at $4.45!!),
- a wonderful
13.3g full slice of DaG947 (LL6-W3/4-S2) with great BRECCIA and
fusion
Nice ride. I forgot that one. It looks earlier than than the comet and
caliente. I had 2 comets and 1 caliente. I just looked at a red 64 convertible
on ebay and it was up to 7Gs. Lol! I can't use it, mine was yellow with a black
convertible top. Had the custom special order wood grain
Typical Adam reply. He heard out house and... well you read it. As I understand
they are referring to an out building as in a shed or pole barn. I have to
agree with the run on magnets. I hope everyone that has a look, finds one.
Grats to all the new meteorite enthusiasts that this new fall
Dear List Members,
I have several excellent auctions ending this afternoon, most started at
just 99 cents. Be sure to check out some of the highlighted specimens
including an X and Y oriented SA with 360 degree radial flow lines. I also
loaded ten more 1 Kilo lots of unclassified, uncleaned and
I bet you that is a CO. I have many CO meteorites and these are
identical, the crust is very very distinctive and they are magnetic. Robert
Haag would disagree with you, we looked at his Kainsaz today and it is the
same crust. It is a large area and I predict many stones will be found.
Not a chance, CO3 all the way.
Michael Farmer
I will be there in a couple of days.
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On 7/17/06, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a large area and I predict many stones will be found.
Great idea Mike whether you know it or not.
New challenge for everyone to play: Guess the Total recovered weight
of this fall. Absolute closest to the first published number wins
i'll take 1789.50g. take care
susan patton
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My vote .99 grams
(becouse Mike will be there :D
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In a message dated 7/18/2006 3:32:08 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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My vote .99 grams
(because Mike will be there :D
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I'll take 1950.50 because the area is heavily forested.
(we haven't heard from Rob
Hello list,
I've owned a meteorite for a number of years and would like to have it
classified identified. Is there anyone in the New York City area who
I could get together with to have this done? I'd prefer a face to face
meeting rather than sending it off to a lab. I know the AMNH has a
My guesses:
CO3 of course
3169 grams TKW
Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV 26038
http://www.catchafallingstar.com
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17 Stones will have been recovered,
Total weight 11,430 grams.
Next category would be to guess the price
200$/g ?
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2006 00:27
An:
Being IMCA member #0042 I bet 4242.42 g, and clearly vote
for a general C-type (an 84.42% guess) with a careful 4.42%
side-guess of it being an early H-type and the rest (11.16%)
of it being something else to be clearly resolved as what
it clearly is some time later by all the esteemed scientists
I'll go with 12345 grams-- I have the same combination on my luggage!
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Matson, Robert wrote:
Hi All,
Is someone keeping track of all the guesses for the classification
of the new Norwegian fall? ;-) I guess I can go back through the
archives and collect them all.
Based purely on statistics of falls, I'd be disinclined to join the
chorus and pick carbonaceous
I don't know about the rest of you but I'm keeping a
log of everyone's guess on what they think this rocks
eventual value will be so I can outbid them all on
ebay.
With that in mind, can I put my final bid price in as
it's value and then use my winnings to pay for it?
Cunning!
Rob McC
I guess that it receives 3 different classifications by three different
labs submitted by three different finders.
David
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Bahhh, the market is in ruin. 199.95$/g
..I screama, you screama, we all screama, for icecreama!..
(cit. Roberto Benigni, Down by Law, film by Jim Jarmusch)
Correction: 142.42 $/g sounds better than 84.42 $/g!
May be just because it is too hot here... :-)
Alex
Berlin, Germany
On 7/18/06, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Next category would be to guess the price
200$/g ?
I'll play only if Mike doesn't.
My guess: $500/g if the TKW is 3kg and $250/g if greater up to 10kg.
Then a flat $100/g regardless of TKW based upon this being a Norwegian
hammer stone
Now I know what subject interests a lot of meteorite collectors/dealers.
Seems like a good test of hands-on experience.
What about Origins?
Anyone wish to guesstimate where this thing came from based upon a pic?
Probably not too difficult based upon your picture analysis which allowed
you to
Haha!
Ikke prøver være flink!
Rob McC
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So I should better go there to find a piece.
Let's do some languague practise...
CO-chondritter har meget små chondruler på langt
under 1 millimeter og
utgjør ca 30 prosent av totalmassen. Jern-nikkel
The pictures remind me of my crusted Saratov (L4)
~22 kg TRW (before winter)
~$10.- $25./g
Cheers,
Roman
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Hi Göran,
Paramagnetic? Are you sure you don't mean ferromagnetic?
I guess I was fumbling for a word other than magnetic -- a
word that has a different meaning for most people. In the
meteorite community, we all know what is meant when someone
says a meteorite is magnetic; perhaps
Six more guesses today, so here's another summary update for
Tuesday. Carbonaceous still leading OC, with C03 now representing
a quarter of all guesses:
Bjorn Sorheim: OC
Bernd Pauli:LL5 or LL6
Pat Brown: carbonaceous
Marcin Cimala: CO3 or CM2
Mark
Hello list junkies,
I have some affordable meteorites for those interested.
NWA 2633 - CO3.1
http://cgi.ebay.com/A4A-RARE-NWA-2633-Carbonaceous-Meteorite-Slice-3-1g_W0QQ
itemZ33976719QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3239QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem?refid=store
Dhofar 020 - H4
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/July_19.html
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I'll let someone else keep a tally of the TKW guesses... --Rob
Here you are:
Alex 4242.42g
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