Re: [meteorite-list] Comet shower

2006-08-21 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Hi all: I seem to get into trouble no matter what I say. Yes, I keep promising myself to buy the book. My response to Darren responded to the article he referred to which talked about comet showers lasting thousands of years or more. I assumed that they were referring to the long-held theory

[meteorite-list] Kalkaska

2006-08-21 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi George and List, I'm looking for any information regarding the Kalkaska find (Michigan, 1947, medium octahedrite). An image of the main mass or perhaps its location would be helpful. It's a stretch I'm sure, but you never know. Here are some passages from Buchwald with regard to the Kalkaska

RE: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-21 Thread mark ford
Hi, Well one thing is certain, the definition of what a comet actually is, is changing very quickly, what used to be considered 'a dirty snowball' is now looking more like a snowy dirtball, (with hard bits and soft bits). 'Comets' seem to have a range of densities and types, so how would we

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalkaska

2006-08-21 Thread G. Nicula
Wow! Thanks to all of you for your help. I think I need to be brought up to speed on database material. Besides Rocks From Space and a few other amatuer must-haves, what kinds of catalogued data should I have so I don't have to come to the list every time I want to research a meteorite?

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-21 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Hi all: Defending Tim Swindle and Humberto Campins. I have known them for years and they are very conservative scientists. Their work is good and they are well- respected scientists. They do not go off (too often) to make wild, unsubstantiated, claims., hence, the conclusions in their article.

AW: [meteorite-list] Kalkaska

2006-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi George, the best free online-source for the basic data (and more) for meteorites is the searchable Meteoritical Bulletin Database. It is self-explaining and easy to use. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AW: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Ed, not to dissapoint you, but since decades the Chiemgau-impact is brought up again and again, though until now not a sinlge scientific relevant proof was found or delivered, neither for the presumed impact pits and craters, nor for the recovered samples, which turned out to be terrestrial.

Re: AW: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Martin, That's news to me. I don't have the URL at hand to give you for the initial study, but the isotopic evidence the U Wurzburg team presented then was pretty good. I have not seen any refutations yet - I may have missed them. Do you have a URL handy for them? good hunting, Ed ---

[meteorite-list] Comets as meteorite source: another comet sample

2006-08-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi list, There is yet another comet sample: a carbonaceous chondrite was recovered from the KT layer by a core drilled in the Pacific. Berndt should have the details on this one at hand in his database. My own memory is not so good since my stroke, and I have limited energy available. good

AW: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-21 Thread Ingo Herkstroeter
Hi Folks! We have to be very careful about the Chiemgau Comet Impact. To my knowledge it's not clear, what we have there! Most scientist think, that this is not an impact field, only a hand full do. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im

[meteorite-list] Re: THE PLANET DEBATE, solar system formation, and meteorites

2006-08-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling, all - This is probably lost on many here, but it appears to me that the question before the meteorite community is Was McSween's formation model right?. Or was the formation of the asteroids, the source for many meteorites, related to the LPBE? As many ask, Did the planets shift

AW: AW: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Ed, the problem with the Chiemgau-debate is, that it is so old, that the discussion seems to be driven predominantly by the human factor and not by science anymore. Personal attacks of the different involved groups seem to make a rational analysis of this issue impossible. Some say they have

[meteorite-list] Re: The IAU Draft Definition of 'Planet' and 'Plutons'

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
The IAU draft Resolution also defines a new category of planet for official use: pluton. Plutons are distinguished from classical planets in that they reside in orbits around the Sun that take longer than 200 years to complete (i.e. they orbit beyond Neptune). Plutons typically have orbits that

[meteorite-list] Fireball Sparks Plane Crash Alert in England

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/highlands_and_islands/5270598.stm Fireball sparks plane crash alert BBC News August 21, 2006 A meteor shower sparked fears a large aircraft was crashing into the sea off the Hebrides. The Maritime and Coastguard Agency in Stornoway received dozens of

[meteorite-list] Details Emerge on Plan to Demote Pluto

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060819_new_proposal.html Details Emerge on Plan to Demote Pluto By Robert Roy Britt space.com 19 August 2006 This was a wild week for astronomers. At a meeting of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in Prague, a proposal put forth to define the

[meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-21 Thread Tim Heitz
Hello List, How many Hexahedrite meteorites are there? I can't seem to get an exact count It seems most of the known Hexahedrites are owned by governments and museums not in many private collections. I'm also looking for pictures of any Hexahedrites Best Regards, Tim Heitz MIDWEST

[meteorite-list] Planet Vote To Draw From Rival Definitions

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9811-planet-vote-to-draw-from-rival-definitions.html Planet vote to draw from rival definitions Stephen Battersby, Prague New Scientist 21 August 2006 The planet plot thickens. Over the past few days, two rival definitions of the term planet have been

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Phobos Mission: Phobos-Grunt

2006-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:52:19 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: The probe, called Phobos-Grunt, will set off in October 2009 from the Baikonur cosmodrome on a Soyuz-2 rocket for Phobos, one of Mars' two tiny moons, to collect soil samples and bring them back to Earth. What, does he WANT to anger the Phobos

Re: [meteorite-list] Comets as meteorite source: another comet sample

2006-08-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Jason, I think Clube and Napier would argue that all carbonaceous chondritic asteroids are captured burned out comets. From what I understand of Horace Shapely's work, he held similar views. good hunting, Ed --- Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ed, All, Frank T. Kyte did

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: The IAU Draft Definition of 'Planet' and 'Plutons'

2006-08-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Ron, List - I suppose we could always call them clydes. good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IAU draft Resolution also defines a new category of planet for official use: pluton. Plutons are distinguished from classical planets in that they reside in orbits

[meteorite-list] Carbonaceous Chondrites and their sources

2006-08-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi List - Make that Harlow Shapley. I don't know whether Dr. Bryson's memory was good, and I don't know about the sutdies he mentioned in the following note, as I was unable to locate them. But if Shapley was working in this direction, then it would explain his disgust with Velikovsky. It may

[meteorite-list] New Quiz

2006-08-21 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi all, a new Quiz ... It is located in Austria. www.austromet.com/trips/xxx1.jpg Christian, could this be a metal-rich individual of the CB3a Gujba ???. My second guess would be Mount Egerton but let's first try Gujba! Cheers, Bernd __

AW: [meteorite-list] New Quiz

2006-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Not a hard task, it's Korngasse 006 Buckleboo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Christian Anger Gesendet: Montag, 21. August 2006 22:16 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] New Quiz Hi all, a new

AW: [meteorite-list] New Quiz

2006-08-21 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Christian, Martin, and All, Hmmm, looks real to me, and since Christian didn't protect it from the moisture I guess it must be a meteorite that's used to a more wet environment. My first guess would be Morasko - or should I say Muddy Morasko ;-? My second guess would be Muonionalusta (not

Re: [meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-21 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 8/21/2006 12:01:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello List, How many Hexahedrite meteorites are there? I can't seem to get an exact count It seems most of the known Hexahedrites are owned by governments and museums not in many private

[meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-21 Thread Metorman46
Hello Tim; The catalogue of meteorites lists 80 IIAB meteorites.Hope this helps. Best Regards;Herman. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] [ebay] ending in about 2 days

2006-08-21 Thread stan .
Some more nice seymchans, including an end piece that has the widmanstatten pattern visible on the back side form weathering and a distorted pattern on the front where the meteorite started to split during atmospheric entry, some seymchan with gemmy olivine, dho 008, kainsaz and a few others.

[meteorite-list] FW: TRADE OFFER #5

2006-08-21 Thread michael cottingham
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:24 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: TRADE OFFER #5 Hello Everyone! I would like to trade this particular piece: Lahoma, L5,  VERY BEAUTIFUL,  160 gram. A Serious

[meteorite-list] 12 planet with flavor

2006-08-21 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Some of you probably saw this. Sounded funny enough to pass it along. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1155937810472call_pageid=968332188492col=968793972154t=TS_Home Jerry Flaherty __

[meteorite-list] 12 planets and a laugh

2006-08-21 Thread Gerald Flaherty
not sure if I addressed the first one properly http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1155937810472call_pageid=968332188492col=968793972154t=TS_Home Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing

[meteorite-list] Meteorites in the Theater

2006-08-21 Thread MexicoDoug
(Warning! Very 'Rite related; Levity alert.) Hello Listees: Saturday night somehow ended up in the syndicated movie theater. It was a craps shot: too late for anything with an interesting title. There was this Uma Thurman flick My Super Ex-Girlfriend playing. Never heard of it. Just crossed

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in the Theater

2006-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:23:04 -0500, you wrote: (If you are looking for real romance see: The Lake House and skip this) Or even better, see Il Mare/Siworae and skip The Lake House. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282599/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list