Hi,
Good idea, to have a single meteorite auction site that [everyone] uses, but my
only thoughts on this would be, how exactly would you be able to define 'an
honest dealer'? - if you would rely purely on the ebay style 'feedback system'
then that's been done - so why not just better filter
Marcininho,
no offence, but I really doubt,
that a 5000 year old or even older, maybe glacially iron meteorite, resting
in such a wet environment can have any fusion crust left.
I think a new thread about fusion crust and oxidation layers on iron
meteorites would be fine here (eek but I will be
Dear List,
I have a very nice 10.74 gram slice of the Eucrite NWA 1836, also known as
the Twisted Sister for sale. $375 [includes priority mail/insured
shipping]. This represents a significant savings per gram for this rare
meteorite. Please contact me off list for picture, more info, etc.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2007/home.shtml
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First Announcement - November 2006
Marcininho,
no offence, but I really doubt,
that a 5000 year old or even older, maybe glacially iron meteorite, resting
in such a wet environment can have any fusion crust left.
Dear Buckleboo
Yes its strange but I have here crust. And it is not only on this one 282g
endpiece. Go and look
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html
SPIRIT UPDATE: More Remote Science for Spirit - sol 1017-1023,
December 04, 2006:
Spirit is healthy. Downlink of information from the rover resumed after
a 48-hour gap in downlink that resulted from NASA's Mars Odyssey
releasing most of its
Marcin sez:
If spacimen stay in my room for year and its stable, then Im sure its
stable
enough to stay stable for years. Ofcourse there could be alvays someone who
have skills to make rusty not only my morasko, but also Taza or Chinga :)
I regret to say that I am one of those people who has
Hi Marcin-ho,
Does the crust after these millenium still look like you took a high
temperature blow torch to steel and watched it turn rainbowish colores, or
are we talking about an old magnetitated surface that has been exposed to
the elements and kept certain characteristics of its original
Oops, make that desert varnish doesn't count as the original good stuff...
Hi Marcin-ho,
Does the crust after these millenium still look like you took a high
temperature blow torch to steel and watched it turn rainbowish colores, or
are we talking about an old magnetitated surface that
Oops, make that desert varnish doesn't count as the original good stuff...
Hi Marcin-ho,
Does the crust after these millenium still look like you took a high
temperature blow torch to steel and watched it turn rainbowish colores, or
are we talking about an old magnetitated surface that
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively claim that
irons do not form a fusion crust. Yet, in Norton's Rocks From Space,
[pg 167 in my softbound edition] it clearly states the following;
Iron meteorites have the thinnest crust of all, usually only a small
fraction
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1804056.htm
NSW authorities investigate mystery tremor
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
December 5, 2006
Authorities are investigating the cause of a large tremor felt across a
70-kilometre stretch of the New South Wales mid-north coast.
Hi Gary,
Fusion crust can be in the eyes of the beholder, so the difficulty with this
question is we are making a one-size fits all definition.
For the irons, you could get a vey thin local destruction of any
crystalline patterns or figures (no longer etch), some chemical change from
Thanks for clearing that up Doug. I've always felt a bit dumb talking about
fusion crust
and irons.
Gary
On 4 Dec 2006 at 13:59, MexicoDoug wrote:
Hi Gary,
Fusion crust can be in the eyes of the beholder, so the difficulty with this
question is we are making a one-size fits all
Forwarding Steve's e-mail as it is apparent he hit reply, and meant to hit
reply all.
Mark
From: Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 07:59:00 -0800 (PST)
Hi again:
I made some errors
Hey Gary. No problem, that's my best answer but I'm sure others with other
points of view could add a lot of complementary information. I should have
mentioned, too, that the nice black magnetite that developes on the surfaces
of irons in meteorite-friendly desert environments is often called
Marcininho,
no offence, but I really doubt,
that a 5000 year old or even older, maybe glacially iron meteorite, resting
in such a wet environment can have any fusion crust left.
==
Here is close-up shots from my 282g endpiece
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/IMG_0140.jpg
and best Morasko 5kg
Hmmm?
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-October/027363.html
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-October/027395.html
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-September/026251.html
Steve, you claim that you (and your dog) have found several
if this cant be crust then what it is?
Haematite/Magnetite layers.
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I have a number of sikhotes that have that nice blue sheen. Beautiful for
sure.
Gary
On 4 Dec 2006 at 12:10, Dave Freeman mjwy wrote:
Get a fresh looking blue tinted shikote alin, now that is a fushion crust,
about .0008
thick but still a fine crust of blue steel. Dave F
Gary K.
Hello,
According to Buchwald, the production of fusion crust does occur in
irons, while heat-affected rim zones are present below this fusion
crust. Partially quoting from his first volume, in the chapter Shapes
and Surface Characteristics, he writes that these fusion crusts differ
from those
David wrote:
I love the photos that are made of the fusion
crusts after being coated with ammonium chloride
Like the photo on page 641, where you can admire and drool over
a perfectly oriented [Henbury] sample with regmaglypts and fusion
crust.
The caption continues:
This type of material
Hey Steve-O,
You realize you have $1 Buy-It-Now on all your auctions?? Must be in a
generous mood. I'd Buy-It-Now, but I would probably get negative feedback
later...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nwa-4431-14-gram-part-slice_W0QQitemZ290058546912QQihZ01
9QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Crust on irons...most definitely! This Sikhote has THICK crust in some of
the regmaglypts. Thick enough that you can chip it off. It's like Blued Gun
Metal.
http://www.astro-artifacts.com/Astroartifacts/Collection/SIKHOTE-296,14g.jpg
Kind regards,
Mike Bandli
Beautiful sikhote. I love the blue sheen most of them have.
Gary
http://www.meteorite-dealres.com
On 4 Dec 2006 at 14:54, Mike Bandli wrote:
Crust on irons...most definitely! This Sikhote has THICK crust in some of
the regmaglypts. Thick enough that you can chip it off. It's like Blued Gun
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html
Buckleboo!
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I received two slices of this CV3 meteorite and noticed they smell like
fruity gum. Its very weak but definitely noticeable. Yes
I smell all my
meteorites when I get them
it cant be that strange of a ritual. Anyone else
out there with NWA 2140 notice this? Or did my dealer happen to be wearing
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
Boguslavka!!! Great iron, great Neumann lines (IIAB Hex)! Hey, I´m most
critical regarding irons potentially rusting. But this has been a very stable
one ever since it resides in my collection. In case Chladni´s heirs have
I WANT it!
Gary the Drooler
On 5 Dec 2006 at 0:06, Martin Altmann wrote:
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html
Buckleboo!
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Hi Mike,
Interesting you should say that. I remember a discussion on the list a few
years ago as to whether or not some Sikhote-Alins had been blued to improve
their appearance.
-Walter Branch
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From: Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Hi again Mike,
Yes, you are correct. There was also a discussion some years ago about this
as well. Seems some felt some CV3s smelled like bubble gum.
You will also see pink colored inclusions in Allende from time-to-time.
hummm?
-Walter
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WOW Martin, somehow I missed Dec 1. What a beauty!
Jerry Flaherty
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on
Dave,
I appreciate your high degree of precision... and your vast knowledge of my
country of birth...:)
The Macua (or Makua for english speaking people), are the largest etnic
group of Mozambique, 5 million of them, nice, friendly people,
out of a grandtotal population of 19.406.000 (2005).
I am looking for ca. 0.5 g slices of Acfer 214 and 094.
If anyone has either for sale then please email me privately.
Sincerely
Laurence
--
Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie
School of Earth and Space
Bob,
Please hold this dimwit accountable for the mess he has gotten himself into.
His loss is well deserved.
Get ready for a negative feedback, though.
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My slice of NWA 096 (H3.8) smelled like bubble gum when I got it. I kept it
double sealed in ziploc bags, but the smell went away after a year or so.
David H.
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Sent:
I am in agreement with Martin. This is a myth that we
shouldn't allow to perpetuate on the list. An
Iron/siderite my have an original ablation surface, as
well as flow characteristics but won't have a fusion
crust. There are many reasons I won't go into about
why iron doesn't have the
I suppose it would be possible to artificially blue an iron meteorite. Being
a gun collector, I do know a bit about it. This Sikhote is definitely not
artificially blued. The black oxide that blues metal is only ~2.5
micrometres thick. This crust is MUCH thicker and only resides in the
Yeah, Alex!
OK, David, so then, that rim on Boguslavka is the alpha-2 zone of the
ablated surface.
Here's photo I just took of the piece I contracted from Cladni Heirs,
terrible photo, but it shows beautifully that fusion heated rim (could be
called part of the fusion crust I guess - but
Hello Bob,
Thank you for your concern, but I am not worried. I bought the piece in good
faith, paid immediately in good faith, and I am sure Steve will send it out
promptly, with equally good faith.
Bob
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To: Bob Holmes [EMAIL
other
orbital data and in planning activities for surface missions.
The new images are available online at links from
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http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu. They are among the earliest from Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter's primary science phase
Hi all,
I've just received a new consignment of about 9 different Aussie meteorites
which I'll have for a short time. They've all been approved for export and
are listed on my sale page.
www.meteorites.com.au/sale.html
Cheers,
Jeff
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Anyone have an artificially blued meteorite to post?
Here is an image of two specimens from my collection:
http://www.astrometrica.at/Images/SikhoteCrust.jpg
(Sorry, the image is not perefect. But hey, it's 1:30 AM here...!)
The top specimen looks like most of the pieces available in the
Hi,
Bob Haag reported that one fresh Murchison
kept in a mason jar from immediately after the fall
smelled very strongly and aromatically like fresh
bubble gum! (This was, I believe, only a week
or two after the fall.)
Sterling K. Webb
Oh I got one,
I remember when I showed the kind generous Steve Arnold the spot where a
Park Forest meteorite crashed into the street. He found more than 30 micros
of Park Forest laying in the street on Winslow. By his own account he
profited more than $900 from the micros that I led him
Oh, I don't think, that no fusion crust is possible on iron meteorites at
all, but I wanted to exclude, that on such an stone-old iron like Morasko,
could be fusion crust found.
Boguslavka - one piece was found directly on the day of the fall, the other
piece was recovered very soon later. So I
I am not convinced yet.any pictures in the as found condition or
with ANY fusion crust?
Dave F.
Steve Dunklee wrote:
Yahoo! Photos
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sdunklee72520aid=576460762359134600pid=wtok=54pjM5KC_Q9KTC8Qk_hREw--ts=1165172077.src=ph
Steve Dunklee has
That doesn't look like a meteorite and it certainly would not be a Leonid. It
is too weathered. As well, Leonids are tiny particles and burn up in the
Earth's atmosphere.
-Walter
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From: Gerald Flaherty
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
Would shikote Alin-like crust work? Blue steel, burn baby burn!
Dave F.
MexicoDoug wrote:
Hi Gary,
Fusion crust can be in the eyes of the beholder, so the difficulty with this
question is we are making a one-size fits all definition.
For the irons, you could get a vey thin local
I received two slices of this CV3 meteorite and noticed they smell like
fruity gum. It's very weak but definitely noticeable. Yes.I smell all my
meteorites when I get them.it can't be that odd of a ritual. Anyone else out
there with NWA 2140 notice this? Or did my dealer happen to be wearing some
Hi all -
Might non-iron inclusions explain some of the
crusting?
Might iron meteorites with inclusions actually
fragment along inclusions during entry? Or might
heating the inclusions cause fragmentation?
I don't remember (hell, now a days I don't remember
much of anything) any inclusions in
Greetings
Two things, first off comcast sold my account to another company so my
email address is changing. The new account will be automatically forwarding
my email to the new address. Already it is amazing how many more emails I am
getting at the new address. Should have left
Hi, Walter, List,
Norton's Rocks From Space, 2nd. Edition, p. 294,
but what he actually says is it smelled like a bottle
of fine wine, probably not the same as bubblegum...
So, I can't remember which was the bubblegum
meteorite. Parneallee is said to smell like organic
solvent. Johnstown
Nice score Holmes.
However, you probably don't realize that you have been used as a pawn in
some sort of mastermind business strategy. I haven't figured it out yet.
Up until now, I've seen the items sold for half or a quarter of what they
were purchased for in. But now they are being
Gary, and all...
Yes iron meteorites do have fusion crust. And the crust is more
complex than what is seen in stones.
In iron meteorites the blue-black surface is only part of the fusion
crust. It is the outer rind of magnetite (iron oxide produced by
direct exposure to the atmosphere during
Does anyone besides me believe that many of the Sikhote-Alin irons have
been doctored to look better than they really are? Over the past several
years I've heard several stories (rumors) that a lot of creative work has
been used to make some of the SAs look as good as they do. One of the
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:11:20 -0700, you wrote:
However, you probably don't realize that you have been used as a pawn in
some sort of mastermind business strategy. I haven't figured it out yet.
Could be a case of life imitating art. In this case, a weird juxtaposition of
Brewster's Millions
Murchison? Bubble gum?
Asphalt maybe, but bubble gum?
Are your sure it was bubble gum?
-Walter
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From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Meteorite Mailing List'
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent:
It wasn't Murchison that smelled like bubblegum, it was NWA096 (H3.8).
http://www.meteoritebiz.com/nwa096.htm
If my memory is correct, Murchison specimens smelled of alcohol and
ether? even after several years in storage in a sealed jar.
Best,
John Gwilliam
At 06:18 PM 12/4/2006, Walter
As a member of IMCA, I feel it my duty to warn other meteorite buffs to avoid
entanglements from questionable persons.
On June 24, 2006 I posted to the list as a courtesy that I had been the victim
of a fraudulent trade with Bob Evans. This is the rest of the story...
After a year of trying to
I think everyone is right. I believe residents could smell the 'alcohol'
like smell after the Murchison fall but I've also heard the bubble gum
comment before too.
Cheers,
Jeff
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To: Walter Branch ; Sterling K. Webb ; Mike Bandli ; 'Meteorite
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