Re: [meteorite-list] Forwarded AD - New Illinois Iron Meteorite?

2007-03-19 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi all, Please all do be aware I have nothing to do with this advertisement other than a friend asked me to foreword it to the list. I assume his posts were being blocked or long delayed, as has been reported by many list members. As for the iron, itself - it looks good to me, but

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites forsale (AD)

2007-03-19 Thread Kevin Forbes
Dunk them in the pond, everybody knows that flibbertigibbets are made from wood, if they are innocent they will sink. I demand a shrubbery. Neeeii Kevin. From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:

[meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society

2007-03-19 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Good Monday Morning List, Dawn and I plan to attend the 2007 Meteoritical Society Meeting at Tucson August 13-17. We expect that much of the Science will no doubt be over our heads. Oddly enough, what inspired our decision were the pre and post field trips which include Arizona birding, Meteor

[meteorite-list] OT final word from Ireland on St Paddys

2007-03-19 Thread emeraldisleminerals
List,Steve I am Irish,born and bred and everyone calls it St Paddys day lets hear no more of this nonsense please.Back to meteorites Jim Brady -- Planning for retirement? Click for free information on 401(k) plans http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/CAaCXv1KjdeYn1rRJlXDQdWZorGyByxH/

Re: [meteorite-list] Topics for collection of wisdoms

2007-03-19 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:17:22 -0600, you wrote: or sub-groups of stony meteorites. I'm curious to know too... Most articles I have read on Martian and Lunar pieces say they are not attracted to a magnet. Is this known to be without exception? This seems to fit here:

Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi Meteorite Offers from Russia

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
A sucker is born every day. Michael Farmer -- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt a nigerian scam continue to send you emails with photos etcand is not real this person ask immediatly $800 of contract, I have sent 100 euro and now I want seen what arrive

[meteorite-list] AD - Gather Around The Good Stuff - Auctions Ending!

2007-03-19 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I have several excellent auctions ending this afternoon. I loaded some outstanding examples and started them out at just 99 cents, some worth hundreds! Don't forget SERIAL NUMBER ONE of the 230 piece Campo Coin series is running, a chance of a lifetime for some lucky

Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi Meteorite Offers from Russia

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/car.jpg Matteo, here is a photo of a Ferrari I have for sale. Send me 500 Euros, then I will send you a contract for purchase and shipping details. I am selling this car for charity for little starving children. See how easy that is? Michael Farmer

Re: [meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society

2007-03-19 Thread lebofsky
Hi Jerry: I will be there (here)! I think Anne Black is also thinking of coming. It is a dry heat. Larry On Mon, March 19, 2007 6:12 am, Gerald Flaherty wrote: Good Monday Morning List, Dawn and I plan to attend the 2007 Meteoritical Society Meeting at Tucson August 13-17. We expect that

[meteorite-list] Pnew Moona-ultramicroscopicsilicosis

2007-03-19 Thread doctor death
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi Meteorite Offers from Russia

2007-03-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Mike, List, I have to quarrel with your arithmetic, Mike. A sucker a day is only 365 new suckers a year, and the population of suckers is far too great to have been created at that rate. The great Phineas T. Barnum is the source of that quote, and I believe that he said, There's a sucker

Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi Meteorite Offers from Russia

2007-03-19 Thread batkol
P. T. Barnum Never Did Say There's a Sucker Born Every Minute By R. J. Brown Editor-in-Chief P. T. Barnum is most often associated with the circus sideshow and the display of freaks. While this is true, he is also the founding force behind one of America's most famous circuses: Barnum

Re: [meteorite-list] Pnew Moona-ultramicroscopicsilicosi/moon rock

2007-03-19 Thread mark ford
Hmm, ... this theory that's kicking around about melting moon dust with a microwave oven- its all very well melting a few mg of moondust in a 1kW home microwave oven, but by my calculations to melt 1 ton of mood dust you would need over 200MW of microwave power! So that's really practical

Re: [meteorite-list] Pnew Moona-ultramicroscopicsilicosi/moon rock

2007-03-19 Thread mark ford
Hmm, ... this theory that's kicking around about melting moon dust with a microwave oven- its all very well melting a few mg of moondust in a 1kW home microwave oven, but by my calculations to melt 1 ton of moon dust you would need over 200MW of microwave power! So that's really practical

[meteorite-list] FW: Illinois meteorite

2007-03-19 Thread Michael L Blood
-- Forwarded Message From: Barb Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:09:34 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Illinois meteorite Michael, Please forward this message ... And thanks for helping me til I have no problems posting myself. Dear List, Nobody said that this is

Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi Meteorite Offers from Russia

2007-03-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Sterling wrote: Hi, Mike, List, I have to quarrel with your arithmetic, Mike. Hi Sterling, Please don't quarrel with Mike's thoughts, there's been enough quarreling and provocations already. No arithmetic intended nor was he referencing PT Barnum, etc. (Interesting post, Susan!) It was in

[meteorite-list] New Meteorite cold finds for January and March 2007

2007-03-19 Thread wahlperry
Hi , Here are a couple of pictures of meteorite finds for 2007. The find for January appears to be a H 4-5 chondrite total weight 2.5 pounds. The second find from March 07 looks different than anything that I have ever found. It may turn out to be a L or LL chondrite or something better! It

Re: [meteorite-list] Pnew Moona-ultramicroscopicsilicosi/moon rock

2007-03-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Mark, List, No nuclear reactors needed! Here's my idea of the gizmo. You may have seen the little robotic vacuum sweepers that are the rage. Well, imagine a little robotic microwave oven with its bottom sawed off, mounted on wheels, and carrying a square meter or so of solar panel above

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite cold finds for January and March 2007

2007-03-19 Thread Moni Waiblinger
Impressive Sonny and hi list-members, this sure changes my mind, maybe I have to get a metal detector after all. Nice finds! 14 inches below! I believe you when you say you can't wait to see what the classification of the one is that is magnetic slightly more on one side than the other.

[meteorite-list] Sale Gibeon and many others

2007-03-19 Thread AstronomicalResearchNetwork
Retirement from Northwest Airlines has been difficult So I offer the list some specimens for Sale . Anything you see that you are interested in I will entertain reasonable offers ! Also anything on my website . http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ 1 . A complete 273 pound Gibeon meteorite . Museum

Re: [meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society

2007-03-19 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Great news Larry. Will look forward to meeting you there. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of

Re: [meteorite-list] Topics for collection of wisdoms

2007-03-19 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Darren That SUCKS! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Topics for collection of wisdoms On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:17:22 -0600, you wrote:

[meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Slice

2007-03-19 Thread Thetoprok
Hello List, I have an ebay auction ending in about an hour and a half. As of right now the slice can be had for just over a buck a gram! A great deal may be in your future. A Free Micro Pic's CD is included. _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=015sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Illinois meteorite

2007-03-19 Thread Mr EMan
Sigh...So we are back again to Irons having fusion crust. Sorry I don't see the fusion crust. Crust or no, this aborted art project does not have the hallmarks of being a meteorite. The statement that said this will be the 3rd Iron from Illinois sure came across as a meteorite announcement that

[meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread steve arnold
Hello list and good evening.Being from illinois and having been to 3 of the state strewfields,there are already 3 iron meteorites classified already in illinois.HAVANA (IIICD),SAINT AUGUSTINE (IID),and finally WOODBINE (IAB).So if this was to be the next iron from illinois,it would be the

[meteorite-list] Musical websites (was large Tatahouine Sale)

2007-03-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Howard S. wrote: I find websites with music annoying. ... Music on a website = NO SALE to me. Dear Howard, My incredibly big and beautiful Tatahouine specimen sales site is available to you sound-free: http://www.diogenite.com/t1ns.htm You are absolutely right to be choosy about the sites you

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Mr EMan
Thank you Steve for that cogent analysis. I'll try to not assume facts which are not in evidence. As to understanding the math I totally agree. I remember a time when one ad a day for a week plus addemdums( sometimes 2 per day) still equaled one ad per week. Must be that new darn math. Elton

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Illinois meteorite

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Elton, All, Oh, give it a rest - read the Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites, page 54, first paragraph. ...Every writer that I know of has stated that irons do possess fusion crusts - Buchwald, Nininger, Norton, the list goes on. Hell, I would've thought that the pictures of Tim Heitz's Chilean

[meteorite-list] Iron Sulfide pictures

2007-03-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Dear Listees, If anyone has any good photos of a reasonably large patch of 'pure' Iron Sulfide (Troilite) that thoroughly melted/fused during entry but was conserved on the surface of a relatively fresh fusion crust of a stony meteorite, could you be so kind to post a photo of it? Thanks and

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Again All, Steve, Well, you're...kind ofright. Most people wouldn't qualify Havana as a meteorite, seeing as all that's known of it is a few little indian beads made out of meteoric iron. Yes, it's true, they did turn out to have a different chemical composition than any known iron,

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Jason, you are friends with John Wasson, he has had Fredericksburg in his possesion for more than five years. Perhaps you could ask him why he refuses to submit it. Michael Farmer --- Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Again All, Steve, Well, you're...kind ofright. Most people

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Jason, I have asked, many times. Mr Wasson has not done me the courtesy of an answer. He was fast on the email though, when I bought the meteorite, demanding a ~500 gram sample since UCLA had tried to buy the meteorite for years before I bought it. There was one problem though, they did not pay

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 20, 2007

2007-03-19 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bill, All, You should read what you post - check the references section of your link and you get: Never published in the Meteoritical Bulletin Find references in NASA ADS Haha, don't think I don't do my research too ;) It's yet to be published, just as I said. And Mike, it seems as if

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Bill
Ha Ha? I send you a link, in private I might add, and I get haha? Did I make a comment? No. So what's funny? Glad you enjoyed the pic. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:36:49 -0700 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bill, All, Whoops then, sorry - simply assumed it was public, as it pertained to the subject at hand; didn't even look at the subject line, though I did with Mike's following message...I'll get to that in a second. My Apologies, Jason On 3/19/07, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha? I

[meteorite-list] Fredericksburg meteorite and politics of science

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
List members. I must express my disappointment with Jason for quipping that the fact that the Fredericksburg meteorite has not been classified, thus is not a meteorite. Jason, here are you exact words It would be something like calling Fredericksburg (remember that Hexahedrite from a few years

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi Michael According to this article; Formation of IIAB Irons By Wasson, J. T., Huber, Heinz Malvin, Daniel J. from GCA 71 (2007) 760-781 They state in appendix B that : The 47-kg Fredericksburg (Texas) iron was first reported to us by a person living in Alaska, who stated that it had been

Re: [meteorite-list] Fredericksburg meteorite and politics of science

2007-03-19 Thread drtanuki
Open letter to the LIST and the NOMCOM and Meteoritics Researchers, Mike Farmer and others have brought up the question of ethics and politics in meteoritics among researchers. Two examples that come to mind are Fredricksburg and NWA 869. Does the NOMCOM have an ethics committte or a special

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Haha, now that's just great - even if the politics were to blame initially, it wouldn't matter anyways - it's another mass of Richland. In any case, Mike Farmer and I (I'm pretty sure) resolved our bit off-list. Jason On 3/19/07, Mike Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael According to this

[meteorite-list] [Fwd: [Launch Alert] Tuesday Night Missile Launch]

2007-03-19 Thread Moni Waiblinger
LAUNCH ALERT Brian Webb Ventura County, California E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: www.spacearchive.info 2007 March 19 (Monday) 18:08 PDT --

Re: [meteorite-list] Fredericksburg meteorite and politics of science

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Ahh, well, I guess it wasn't to beoff list that is. I'll start by letting Mike have a good look at the quote he just put down. Note approved meteorite. You suggest that I said that it wasn't a meteorite. I, as you can clearly see, stated that it was merely not approved. Read it if you don't

Re: [meteorite-list] Fredericksburg meteorite and politics of science

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Actually, you threatened in your post that if I did not answer you in time, it would be posted. That it is paired with Richland, that is great news, I see the date on it is 2007, so Dr Wasson has ignored my emails for years, and finally finished the job, still without emailing me back. At least

Re: [meteorite-list] Fredericksburg meteorite and politics of science

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Dirk, I have no idea, but it is clearly a personal issue with Dr. Wasson. I gave them more than 500 grams of a meteorite, I was never contacted again, or thanked for that gift. I was further ignored for nearly a decade when time and time again, I requested data. That there could be an argument

[meteorite-list] AD: Taking highest offers on Briggsdale, CO IRON and McCook, Nebraska OC never offered on the market

2007-03-19 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, I will be taking off-list SERIOUS ONLY offers for the two historic classified meteorites that will be later sold.; BOTH ARE THE LARGEST AVAILABLE MASSES OUTSIDE OF MUSEUMS. MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR FINDS AND RECOVERIES WILL BE POSTED LATER. BEST ON YOUR OFFERS AND BIDS.

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
It would have been nice, and professional, for Dr. Wasson to convey that fact to me, after the many emails I have sent him over the years. We have no issues Jason, just disagree on the facts in a dispute that is more than 7 years old. Since I am the one who flew to Alaska, counted out the money,

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
As am I with my facts - we have a binder on it somewhere, but I do remember quite well - it was the first thing we ever corroborated with John on. That being said, I don't believe we disagree on the politics of it at all, assuming that the Richland pairing didn't play the part it appears to have.

[meteorite-list] Frederiksburg iron

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Again, if there is a problem with the sale, it would be more on the Wasson/owner of the meteorite in Alaska side of the coin, not on my side. Simple Man in Alaska emails me about 47 kilo meteorite. I make offer. Man accepts offer. I fly to Alaska some days later with many $100 bills and buy

[meteorite-list] RICHLAND

2007-03-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All, Strictly as a dumb and innocent bystander on the Thread: Illinois Irons, which is now and forever more shall be about a Texas/Alaska Iron, I have a dumb and innocent question (lamb to the slaughter). Here's what the Catalogue of Meteorites says about RICHLAND: A mass of 30lb

Re: [meteorite-list] Frederiksburg iron

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Utas
Mike, Again, you ignore my difference of opinion with you on the time scale, after restating a minute ago that it was seven years ago, etc. I refuse to further this travesty of an argument. If you simply ignore me the entire time, why the hell should I prolong it? Good Night. I've said my bit -

Re: [meteorite-list] Frederiksburg iron

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Jason, Apologize to John for what? Paying the man who wanted to sell the meteorite, something that John would not/could not do? Sorry, but no thanks. If Dr. Wasson is holding the data, waiting for an apology from me after I gave him more than half a kilo, that what kind of scientist is he? How