[meteorite-list] AD - EBAY Goodies ending tonight

2007-03-22 Thread Jim Strope
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[meteorite-list] Call for papers for Meteorite magazine

2007-03-22 Thread lebofsky
Hi everyone: You should all have gotten or will soon get your February issue of Meteorite magazine. Nancy and I have just sent off all of the articles for the May issue to the publishers. So, it is now time to think about the August and November issues! The submissions deadlines for these are

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Farmer
This is simple. Fusion, the result of material burning at extreme temeratures, and crust, the layer on the surface that was not there before re-entry. Thus, FUSION CRUST It is quite obvious that the surface of a freshly fallen iron, with the blue-black coating is a FUSION CRUST. It generally

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Farmer
But made from the matrix component. burned material from the parent body, regardless of how it is chemically changed, same as the fusion crust on any meteorite. Take a Eucrite like Stannern for example, white interior, yet the fusion crust is glossy black. That is not soot, it is chemically

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Hupe
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Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Farmer
Crus is crust, soft, hard, it doesnt matter. It is a crust of material caused to be on the surface of the object by fusion. Why would iron fusion crut not be different than that of stones? Of course it is chemically different. You know, you can remove the fusion crust on some stones easily as

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread mark ford
On that subject, anyone know what actual temperature the surface of the average Chondrite gets to on atmospheric entry? (it would no doubt vary with the entry angle time in flight etc) but there must be a ball park figure. Obviously I doubt anyone can have measured it directly (unless maybe it

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Farmer
Then we are in complete agreement. The composition of the crust is of no matter, only that the crust was produced and adhered to the meteorite by means of fusion in the atmosphere. Michael Farmer --- Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it is fusion crust. We agree on something,

[meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on iron meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread bernd . pauli
Mike wrote: Crust is crust, soft, hard, it doesnt matter. It is a crust of material caused to be on the surface of the object by fusion. BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 1, pp. 49-50: While the fusion crusts on stone meteorites are usually the product of simple

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Chris Peterson
Meteors are pretty well modeled as black bodies, and their spectra indicate typical temperatures of 4000-5000 K (with ablation beginning at 1500-2000 K). Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:04:08 -, you wrote: out what temp a chrondrite melts at, but presumably it gets much much hotter than 'just the melting point temp'. Just as a guess (and not looking at research to back it up) but I'd think that the surface would reach only just about the same as the

[meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread bernd . pauli
GENGE M.J. and GRADY M. (1999) The fusion crusts of stony meteorites: implications for the atmospheric reprocessing of extra- terrestrial materials (MAPS 34-3, 1999, 341-356): a) Fusion crusts develop on *all* meteorites during their passage of the atmosphere ... b) Most chondrite fusion crusts

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Mike wrote: Crust is crust, soft, hard, it doesnt matter. Definitely agree. There is no need to create new definitions just because we are more familiar with stony fusion crusts than we are with iron fusion crusts. It is a crust of material caused to be on the surface of the object by fusion.

[meteorite-list] PolandMET page update [AD]

2007-03-22 Thread PolandMET
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[meteorite-list] NASA Considering Sending Astronauts To An Asteroid

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19325964.700-now-fly-me-to-the-asteroids-as-well.html Now fly me to the asteroids as well David Shiga New Scientist 22 March 2007 They are still a long way from returning to the moon, but NASA is already thinking about sending astronauts to an asteroid.

[meteorite-list] Does anyone have good pictures of a slice of Gao?

2007-03-22 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
I have an opportunity to get a piece of this in trade but I don't know what the interior looks like. If anyone has pictures of knows of a web site that has pictures of this material posted please forward the info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks __

Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone have good pictures of a slice of Gao?

2007-03-22 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 3/22/2007 3:08:45 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an opportunity to get a piece of this in trade but I don't know what the interior looks like. If anyone has pictures of knows of a web site that has pictures of this material posted please

Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone have good pictures of a slice of Gao?

2007-03-22 Thread PolandMET
I have an opportunity to get a piece of this in trade but I don't know what the interior looks like. If anyone has pictures of knows of a web site that has pictures of this material posted please forward the info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks http://www.gao-guenie.com/gao_endpiece.htm two

[meteorite-list] Threads on fusion crust and magnetic 'properties'

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Murray
Thanks to everyone that responded on this thread. I'm getting a lot out of the posts but I haven't finished reading them completely yet. Same thing on the magnetic question and resulting thread on that one. Thanks to everyone who responded there too. I learned something right off on that

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread jbaxter112
Hello Berndt et al., I thought you and the list members might find interesting a phenomenon that was shown to me by Marcin Cimala. In cutting an LL5 he found areas where thick crust had built up and actually incorporated within the crust small angular fragments of relatively unaltered meteorite.

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:58:51 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Hello Berndt et al., I thought you and the list members might find interesting a phenomenon that was shown to me by Marcin Cimala. In cutting an LL5 he found areas where thick crust had built up and actually incorporated within the crust small

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Farmer
I agree, I dont think that it is fusion crust, more likely a brecciated section on the edge of the meteorite. Michael Farmer --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:58:51 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Hello Berndt et al., I thought you and the list members might find

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread jbaxter112
Hi Mike and Darren, I probably would have had that response too without the benefit of turning these over in my hands and looking at them in 3 dimensions. I'm 99% sure that if you held these in your hands, and especially if you looked at them under the microscope, you would conclude the black

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread Kashuba
Michael, Darren, Jim and list, I agree with Jim on this. My slice of the same stone has fragments set in a clearly bubbly melt. I suggest that this accumulated on the back side of the stone during oriented flight. Check out my pictures:

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites

2007-03-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:05:51 -0700, you wrote: Michael, Darren, Jim and list, I agree with Jim on this. My slice of the same stone has fragments set in a clearly bubbly melt. I suggest that this accumulated on the back side of the stone during oriented flight. Check out my pictures: