[meteorite-list] Shawnee tradition, hermeneutic condition

2007-10-09 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
The Shawnee and others are the ONLY sources of Pleistocene cultural information, possibly preserved in accounts of the cosmogony of late-coming Paleoindian populations (as also can be expected of the mythopoesis of indigenous Northern Asian populations, e.g. early Jomon Proto-Ainu people(~16,000

[meteorite-list] Free meteorite references, from Radiocarbon

2007-10-09 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
List, a search using the keyword meteorites at the ASU website for the journal Radiocarbon yielded 54 full-text PDF files, while the keyword meteorite yielded 67 articles. All are in the free archives of the journal, complete from 1959-2004. I haven't had time to referee any (as if I am

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 9, 2007

2007-10-09 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread K. Ohtsuka
Hello Sterling, Thank you for letting me know your translation of the Bolivian publications, which is very interesting. Just before, I visited http://spaceweather.com/, where another latest infrasound analysis of the Peruvian event by Peter Brown (Univ. W. Ontario) is introduced. His team

[meteorite-list] Very Important Day For Meteorites

2007-10-09 Thread Darryl Pitt
Folks, Yesterday was a very big day for meteorites. No, it was not a scientific breakthrough or an enthralling report of a new recovery an intrepid meteorite hunter. The event was far more banal---but the implications of its impact will be far-reaching in years to come. The waves of

Re: [meteorite-list] photographing irons

2007-10-09 Thread Jerry
Gorgeous! What's your technique? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Laurence Garvie [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] photographing irons

[meteorite-list] Free meteorite references, from Radiocarbon

2007-10-09 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
List, a search using the keyword meteorites at the ASU website for the journal Radiocarbon yielded 54 full-text PDF files, while the keyword meteorite yielded 67 articles. All are in the free archives of the journal, complete from 1959-2004. I haven't had time to referee any (as if I am

[meteorite-list] Happy 15th, Peekskill

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Garrison
Just 3 years till legal! Oh, wait... http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20071009-peekskill-meteorite-astronomy-chevy-malibu.shtml Posted Tuesday October 9, 2007 07:00 AM EDT The Thing From Space That Destroyed the Car By John Steele Gordon Luckily for astronomers

Re: [meteorite-list] Shawnee tradition, hermeneutic condition

2007-10-09 Thread dmouat
That first sentence (if it is, in fact, a sentence) is definitely the longest (albeit obfuscatory) I've read all month. Hohohoba Thaddeus Besedin wrote: The Shawnee and others are the ONLY sources of Pleistocene cultural information, possibly preserved in accounts of the cosmogony of

[meteorite-list] Shawnee Tradition

2007-10-09 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Thaddeus - Yeah. It's like I've been trying to tell you for some time - there was a massive impact event at the start of the Holocene. The only question left now is was it coincidental to the Holocene start, or was it causative. I go with causitive, by modifying the North Pacific Current.

Re: [meteorite-list] Very Important Day For Meteorites

2007-10-09 Thread Pete Pete
Hi, Darryl, List, It will be interesting to see if a frenzy occurs! If anyone wants a look at the American auction site: http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USAscreen=index

[meteorite-list] 15th Anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorite Fall

2007-10-09 Thread Ron Baalke
meteorite just a few weeks after it had fallen, and my piece has red paint from the car on the fusion crust. Ron Baalke --- For JPL internal use only. http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20071009-peekskill-meteorite-astronomy-chevy

[meteorite-list] FW: Inclusions Chondrules....

2007-10-09 Thread michael cottingham
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:21 AM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: Inclusions Chondrules Hello, I have a light ebay week, but I do have some nice LL5, chondrule rich slices, also some

[meteorite-list] Carancas impact crater satellite imagery documentation--Dirk Ross...Tokyo 10OCT07

2007-10-09 Thread drtanuki
Again, Sorry for the mass listing to all in this communication; time is running out quickly; if you have received this and wish not to be involved please contact me privately. Dear Drs. and List, It has been suggested, in communication, by impact researcher, Dr. Jan Cannon, Planetary Data, OK,

Re: [meteorite-list] Free meteorite references, Other Papers

2007-10-09 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi Thaddeus, Thanks for the link. I read what I could and even understood a little! I won't try to explain what I understood or you may realize I really understood nothing at all! Really cool source of info. Not starting a new thread, but just adding to this one. I was reading about

Re: [meteorite-list] Happy 15th, Peekskill

2007-10-09 Thread mckinney trammell
3 yrs. to legal, eh? i started @ 13. --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just 3 years till legal! Oh, wait... http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20071009-peekskill-meteorite-astronomy-chevy-malibu.shtml Posted Tuesday October 9, 2007 07:00 AM EDT

[meteorite-list] 15th Anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorite Fall

2007-10-09 Thread bernd . pauli
Analysis of the fireball's flight path led to the determination of the object's orbit: ... it originated from the main asteroid belt. Orbital Parameters: Semimajor axis = 1.49 AU Eccentricity = 0.41 Perihelion distance = 0.886 AU Argument of perihelion = 308° Long.

Re: [meteorite-list] 15th Anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorite Fall

2007-10-09 Thread Alexander Seidel
Olivine Bronzite Chondrite Peekskill, New York Type: Becciated H5 or 6 Total Known Weight: 12.3 kg Fell October 9, 1992 Choice light gray polished partial slice with rich black fusion crust along the outer edge. Well, unmistakably the wording of DAVID NEW, the grand old master of

Re: [meteorite-list] Headlines: Mike Farmer beats Randall, claims record. - News at 11:00

2007-10-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, This is beneath you... The logical flaw here is that is any beneath beneath the pseudonomynous Randall-of-the-many-names. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dr. Richard (Dick)

[meteorite-list] Peekskill and El Djouf 001

2007-10-09 Thread bernd . pauli
Alex wrote: Of course, this is still in my collection, and it is going to stay there! A small goodie of 1.42 g with a bit of crust, sold to me nine years ago, Bernd, as you may well recall Well, actually I did not sell it in the literal sense of the word but Alex and I swapped meteorites. He got

[meteorite-list] New Horizons Sees Changes in Jupiter System

2007-10-09 Thread Ron Baalke
Oct. 9, 2007 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Buckley Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md. 240-228-7536 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RELEASE: 07-221 NASA SPACECRAFT SEES CHANGES IN JUPITER SYSTEM LAUREL, Md. - NASA's New

Re: [meteorite-list] Randall joke on ebay!

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:33:44 -0500, you wrote: Hi, A search of the user name on eBay US site turns up this less than detailed listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3810item=300158570494 Auction missing now. I guess somebody reported it for failing to meet Ebay's

[meteorite-list] photographing irons

2007-10-09 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
Normally I do that but it doesn't work well on end cuts _ Laurence Garvie lgarvie at cox.net Tue Oct 9 01:26:47 EDT 2007 Regarding photographing irons - I have had good success scanning them on a flatbed scanner. I typically use 1200 dpi

Re: [meteorite-list] Peekskill and El Djouf 001

2007-10-09 Thread Alexander Seidel
Ok, ok then it was YOU who got that CR2 from me? Well, might have been estimated at $250++/g way back then, or even more, and almost unavailable! The old pre-NWA times :-). This is why we collectors benefit from NWA and the other hot deserts today - no NWA 801 etc around those days... Alex

Re: [meteorite-list] 15th Anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorite Fall

2007-10-09 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi All These stories remind me of my Peekskill experience. I was at the Tucson show in Feb of 1993? and had my picture taken with my arm in the hole of Michelle Knapps car. A good friend on mine took the picture and unfortunately misplaced it. I also remember going into Al Lang's room at the old

[meteorite-list] sept. 25

2007-10-09 Thread mckinney trammell
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[meteorite-list] temps

2007-10-09 Thread mckinney trammell
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[meteorite-list] temps

2007-10-09 Thread mckinney trammell
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Re: [meteorite-list] 15th Anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorite

2007-10-09 Thread Ron Baalke
Hi All These stories remind me of my Peekskill experience. I was at the Tucson show in Feb of 1993? and had my picture taken with my arm in the hole of Michelle Knapps car. Yes, the car and meteorite were at the Feb 1993 Tucson show. I was there then, we may have bumped into each other. :)

[meteorite-list] Peekskill / car parts meteorite specimen

2007-10-09 Thread Darryl Pitt
October 28th / Bonhams LOT 5 Portion of the Peekskill meteorite with crust three pieces of the broken taillight, as collected by Ray Meyer---one of the original owners of the Peekskill mass. Reserve equivalent - $61/gram __

[meteorite-list] Looking for a Gibeon or Muonionalusta Sphere

2007-10-09 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
Someone saw my collection and would like to buy a large 2- 4 Gibeon or Muonionalusta Sphere If anyone has one or knows where I can direct this person to get one please email me off list at bobadebt at ec.rr.com Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] temps

2007-10-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, By 1200 C, almost all rocks are molten. Olivine, pyroxene, and Ca-rich plagioclase at 1000 C. Ca/Na plagioclase at 800 C. and Na-plagioclase at 600 C. Iron, however, does not melt unit 1538 C. and Fe-Ni-Cr alloys at still higher temperatures. The temperature of high velocity ablative plasma

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, After reading through those other documents on the Major University of San Andres website and concluding that they contained nothing we didn't already know, I realized I hadn't read the footnotes in the one article that had footnotes, and indeed I found one new piece of information in

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Jan Hattenbach
The Peruvian seismic measurement was 5 tons TNT. This may sound odd, but where is that number from? I was talking to a geologist of the University of Arequipa, and he told me that they did record nothing at the time of the event. Regards, jan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

[meteorite-list] Dawn Mission Status: Spacecraft Tests Ion Engine

2007-10-09 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-115 Dawn Mission Status: Spacecraft Tests Ion Engine Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 09, 2007 NASA's Dawn spacecraft successfully completed the first test of its ion propulsion system over the weekend. The system is vital to the success of

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Jan, I interviewed many people, most saw the fall, saw a bright flash a small mushroom cloud of steam/dust that came up and lingered for some time. Everyone felt the grond shake, and heard huge explosion. As the meteorite came overhead, there was a painful sound of a jet engine, only much louder

[meteorite-list] The new African Fall

2007-10-09 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Dear Listees, The last few days, I was trying to collect as much as possible of information about this new African fall. Fortunately I got the exact location; this meteorite fell at the Algerian/Mali boarder on July at a place called Magtaa lafrayss. This is a short story of the name of Magtaa

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Jan Hattenbach
I also spoke to quite some peoble and I have no doubt that there was a seismic. I do not question that. I just would like to know who recorded it. It's just that I am a bit confused by the statement of the geologist. Jan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] A not so new witnessed fall

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Garrison
Looking around to find the nearest falls/finds to me ( 34°40'11.92N, 82°31'9.73W, according to Google Earth) and if samples of them are available, I found this document that some of you might not have seen (being that it is a needle in a needlestack): http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/

[meteorite-list] Anybody know the word?

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.parish-without-borders.net/cditt/cambodia/dailylife/2005/dailylifekh05.htm 3 February 2005 A 10-pound meteorite crashed into rice fields in remote Cambodia last week and the event was definitely seen as a bad omen. It's not hard to understand why. The Khmer word for meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Mark Crawford
Don't know about seismic, but it appears to have shown up on infrasonic: [from spaceweather.com] *PERUVIAN METEORITE UPDATE: *On Sept. 15th, a fireball streaked across the skies of Peru and soon thereafter a watery crater http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2007/08oct07/crater.jpg was

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Jan, List, http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isWWHSxCh_u0yUNU9Gpk1qfg996A ...More details emerged when astrophysicist Jose Ishitsuka of Peru's Geophysics Institute reached the site about 6 miles from Lake Titicaca. He confirmed that a meteorite caused a crater 42 feet wide and 15 feet

Re: [meteorite-list] 15th Anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorite Fall

2007-10-09 Thread Notkin
Mike posted: These stories remind me of my Peekskill experience . . . Alex posted: [Remember this old tune of a certain Mary Hopkins, at least you oldtimers amongst us...?? :-)] I'm probably dating myself here, but I had the original 45 (or single as we used to say in England) on the

[meteorite-list] fermo

2007-10-09 Thread mckinney trammell
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Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All The tiniest details yield important information. If a multiplicity of witnesses described a bright flash, then there is no doubt there was a thermal event that generated enough heat to produce not a red glow nor a yellow light but a bright flash. That's an explosion, a

[meteorite-list] Peekskill AD

2007-10-09 Thread Rob Wesel
I still have a few of these left, all original hardware http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/peekskill.html Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971

[meteorite-list] Ad: Large Sikhote-Alin ending on ebay in two hours.

2007-10-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Take time to check out the items ending this evening. Very nice large 763 gram Sikhote-alin shrapnel ending in less than two hours. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130157598865 http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?viewUserPageuserid=meteoritehunters Thanks Mike Farmer

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Charlie Devine
You wrote: It may have been only the less energetic vaporization of the 5% to 8% of the meteorite that was troilite that was the bright flash rather then the vaporization of the entire stone. Still, that alone would have been enough to shatter the impactor into

[meteorite-list] Sale-AD-Ebay Auctions ending in 4 hours-Auckland-Nininger-RELICS

2007-10-09 Thread Thomas Webb
Hello list, I have these two auctions ending in 4 hours from now. Auckland Meteorite Relic Set http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=230177911599ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=013 Nininger Museum Relic

[meteorite-list] Erwin Rivera Carancas Recognition

2007-10-09 Thread Bob Evans
This guy deserves some recognition and praise for offering free Carancas meteorite samples as well as offering pictures. I just received my free 1.5 gram fragment from Erwin today. Obviously this guy didnt have to do this and his actions sure are rare today.

Re: [meteorite-list] Erwin Rivera Carancas Recognition

2007-10-09 Thread Michael Farmer
I am confused, he sends free meteorites and photos, in the mail, from Bolivia? Why? What is the catch? Why is he throwing money away? Michael Farmer --- Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy deserves some recognition and praise for offering free Carancas meteorite samples as well as

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs Shock Veins Revisited

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:33:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Hello Graham, Bernd, list While there is no technical definition of a shock vein so far as I know, it is in wide use and I hold it to be a version of a healed fracture I was re-examining with a 20x loupe today an unclassified NWA I've had for

Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL

2007-10-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Yes, the fact that the dissociation of the troilite would explain the strange odors and reported illnesses convinces me that it got at least that hot. Troilite's vapor point is 700 K. or 427 C. and it would dissociate immediately in the presence of water or even just humidity. That

Re: [meteorite-list] Peekskill AD

2007-10-09 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi All I would really recommend these kits to anyone who is into more than just the meteorite. I picked up one of these from Rob at Tucson this year. They are a really cool kit is it comes with all the extra swag. I don't have it on display yet but I believe all of the pieces together will make

Re: [meteorite-list] Peekskill / car parts meteorite specimen

2007-10-09 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi Darryl, Was wondering if the specimen weighs 26 grams or not. If not how many grams then. All my best! --AL Mitterling Darryl Pitt wrote: October 28th / Bonhams LOT 5 Portion of the Peekskill meteorite with crust three pieces of the broken taillight, as collected by Ray

[meteorite-list] Tucson Show Info?

2007-10-09 Thread Dave Schultz
I need to start making plans for the upcoming Tucson Show, and was wondering if anyone knows what the exact dates for the main weekend are? The auctions, party etc? Thanks in advance! Dave

[meteorite-list] Meteor clips-- posted before?

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLM1pfgv9IE __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Info?

2007-10-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Dave, It's always the first weekend in February, or at least has been in the past, with the party being that Friday night, the auctions over Saturday (Sat. night = Michael Blood's) and Sunday (Lang's). Unless there's some odd change for this year (over the past decade or so, it hasn't

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor clips-- posted before?

2007-10-09 Thread mckinney trammell
savory. --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLM1pfgv9IE __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Info?

2007-10-09 Thread mmorgan
I heard the auctions are the 9th of Feb. Matt -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA -Original Message- From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:25:07 To:Dave Schultz [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Tucson Show Dates Link

2007-10-09 Thread Arizona Keith
Tucson show Start Feb 5 2008, ends 14th Here's a link http://www.tucsongemshowguide.com/ Keith Chandler AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs Shock Veins Revisited

2007-10-09 Thread Mr EMan
--- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has especially fine shock veins that branch like a little lightning bolt in the stone. Another distinction is that a filled fracture aka shock vein will be the same on each side--showing matching halves of any feature it transects. A

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Dates Link

2007-10-09 Thread Kashuba
This site is more comprehensive. http://www.tucsonshowguide.com/tsg/ John Kashuba Ontario, California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arizona Keith Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:54 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject:

[meteorite-list] Erwin Rivera Carancas Recognition -Suggestion for Mike Tiger Man Farmer

2007-10-09 Thread Kevin Kichinka
Hola don Michael: re: The Peru meteorite. My patience with your impact on the hobby I love has ended. I regret that I am making these public remarks, lets call it a family discussion, but as the present face of the hobby you are jeopardizing the kind and gentle nature of collecting meteorites. I

[meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 - Correct Dates

2007-10-09 Thread Notkin
Dear Dave, Keith, Matt, Listees: No disrespect to my pal Keith, but I suggest we disregard the URL posted earlier: http://www.tucsongemshowguide.com It's a knock-off site, and they don't have the show dates correct. The most comprehensive Tucson guide (apart from Meteorite Times of

Re: [meteorite-list] Shawnee tradition, hermeneutic condition

2007-10-09 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
Sorry. I need to proofread. It's a sentence: to minutes of unnecessary convolution. The parenthetic section should have been a footnote. -Thaddeus --- dmouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That first sentence (if it is, in fact, a sentence) is definitely the longest (albeit obfuscatory) I've read

Re: [meteorite-list] Shawnee tradition, hermeneutic condition

2007-10-09 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
Sorry. I need to proofread. It's a sentence: to minutes of unnecessary convolution. The parenthetic section should have been a footnote. -Thaddeus --- dmouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That first sentence (if it is, in fact, a sentence) is definitely the longest (albeit obfuscatory) I've read

Re: [meteorite-list] Shawnee tradition, hermeneutic condition

2007-10-09 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
Sorry. I need to proofread. It's a sentence: to minutes of unnecessary convolution. The parenthetic section should have been a footnote. -Thaddeus --- dmouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That first sentence (if it is, in fact, a sentence) is definitely the longest (albeit obfuscatory) I've read

Re: [meteorite-list] Erwin Rivera Carancas Recognition -Suggestion for Mike Tiger Man Farmer

2007-10-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Get a grip Keven, you have no clue about what I did, or where I came from. Michael Farmer I asked why a guy who is selling rocks on ebay is also giving them away for free. Valid question. Michael Farmer It is always, something, always some reason to condemn those of us who do it. We didnt pay