I seek to sell the main mass of my Scorpion Bight (Western Australia)
specimen for $6000 aussie dollars.
Due to export restrictions I can only sell to an Australian buyer and can
only ship to an Australian address
This one is for serious collectors only - it is the last opportunity for a
Found this interesting:
http://genesismission.jpl.nasa.gov/gm2/news/features/closer.htm
from
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
bit of a paradigm shift if confirmed!
Happy Independence Day USA
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Jack Michael;
JACK.
That is an awsome story you posted to the list,classic meteorite
investigation and recovery.Thanks for posting.
Michael.Thanks to you we,on the list,along with Jack are the first to view
this newest discovered visitor to earth.What a sight to behold.Thanks.
Thanks to
Hi list.I hope all are hunters are finding new arizona meteorites.I have a 400
plus gram nwa endcut that is bleeding ooz.It is small and black.It reminds me
of the black oil from the x-files.How do I stop the oozing??
Steve R. Arnold
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How do I stop the oozing??
In giving it away as freebie.
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Jack and Jarrod, it was a blast hunting yesterday, my bones even ache today.
Thanks for a great if less than successful day.
Robert, congratulations on that amazing stone, I can't think of a better group
of people to hunt with, no BS, no acting, just meteorite hunting.
Shauna, I bet we can't
I would like to go join the hunt for meteorites at the recent fall, but it
seems this is being kept a secret location... Is this to drive the prices up?
One would think extra sets of eyes and hands would be great, but in my opinion
it seems a select group is the only ones who will be allowed
Greg, I hope your post is a joke!
Cheers,
Peter
2009/7/5 Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com:
I would like to go join the hunt for meteorites at the recent fall, but it
seems this is being kept a secret location... Is this to drive the prices up?
One would think extra sets of
Hi Greg,
This has nothing to do with price. Jack's team that did a tremendous amount
of legwork and labor to recover this fall and it is up to them when/if to
reveal any details. As much as I would like to be there, I respect the fact
that they earned this fall. I doubt any of this material will
In a week or so, we will see another ordinary chondrite at $100 per gram (or
more since this is a secret fall)
I dont want to hear about leg work and labor when they turn down help from
people who would like to take part in it and learn from them in the field.
This would have been my first
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
I would like to go join the hunt for meteorites at the recent fall, but it
seems this is being kept a secret location... Is this to drive the prices up?
Probably more an attempt to keep it from being the same type of chaotic circus
the falls
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:48:06 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
This would have been my first hunt, and I guess I am just discovering reality
when it comes to meteorites. If your not a big dealer you get left out.
You had the option of doing all the footwork and phone work and driving needed
to find the
Then why not let fellow collectors be included instead of the just big dealers?
Is it becouse the collectors are the ones that the dealers will be selling to?
The same people that were selling West for $100 per gram are there right now.
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
Greg,
I would be glad to take you out to some great desert pavement for a hunt
anytime. I can't geruntee that a meteorite has fallen there or that you will
find anything.I can geruntee that you will learn ALOT and you don't have to
worry about part of one of the many exclusive groups in the
Greg,
sometimes it's hard to understand, why you're collecting meteorites at all?
Arizona is THE meteorite state, ASU, Flagstaff, Nininger, Barringer Crater,
Holbrook, Tucson Show, and so many meteorite people living there.
So it was highest time, that there after almost 100 years a new observed
- Forwarded Message
From: Shauna Russell meteoritewo...@yahoo.com
To: meteoritel...@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 2:15:05 PM
Subject: Arizona Fall a secret
This is in regards to A secret
This new fall in Arizona is not being kept secret because of money. Why
Dear list members.
I have today received an email from a person. He sent the message to the list
and not to me personally so you already know who this person is. If he had
sent the message to me personally, I would have treated it with complete
confidentiality. I feel that it is important
Hi Shauna, and the 'Team',
Congratulations to all of you! Agreeing with what you said, you all are
'finding it', 'mapping it', 'donating pristine samples to science', what is
the complaint from some side-liners?! I say that anyone who has a complaint
should to take notes and be prepared next
Greg Catterton,
I am very surprised to hear such BS come out of your mouth! Jack Schrader is
not a dealer, Robert and Shauna are not dealers, they all hunt primarily.
I am disgusted to read your words saying it is ...the big dealers... this
or that. Like Darren said, Go out there and do your
So who actually owns this meteorite, given that ~75% of southern Arizona
is either federal or tribal land and much of the rest belongs to the state?
jeff
Michael Farmer wrote:
Jack and Jarrod, it was a blast hunting yesterday, my bones even ache today.
Thanks for a great if less than
Greg,
I agree with Peter and Mike and Darren and Greg Hupe, and Shauna, and
Martin, and of course Jack especially... certainly, and most profoundly
hope this is a joke. This has absolutely nothing to do with price and
everything to do with hard work. You seem to think that information as
Greg, take a chill pill.
I know you are enthusiastic and rearing to go, and I will cut you some slack
for saying what you said. It is not right though.
We are not keeping this secret to sell for $100 gram, buy the way, not one
person who sold West for $100 gram is here. I my have sold one
Jeff, that is a good question, it is being worked out as there is an assortment
of land, both public and private.
We are doing it properly.
Michael Farmer
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote:
From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
Greg,
There's nothing wrong with protecting the areas you work hard to find. I would
do exactly the same as them; in fact I have lots of prospecting locations I
keep quiet. I will admit that it would be very hard for me to make the public
announcement that Jack gave.
Since it was found so
Aloha Jack,
Thank you for your mana'o (thoughts) on meteorite hunting in general,
and the latest AZ fall in particular. Not many falls in Hawaii, so
I'll have to live vicariously through your (and other hunting teams')
exploits. Congratulations Jack, and best wishes and luck to you, and
Hi Jack,
Cool beans! My sincerest congratulations.
Ya'll keep up the great work!
-Walter Branch
- Original Message -
From: Jack Schrader schrad...@rocketmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] My thoughts on the
Dear List,
A question came up about who owns meteorites found on federal land.
Below is a link that can be cut and pasted into a browser that discusses
removal of minerals from federal land. I was told by a BLM officer that 150
pounds can be removed a year for non-commercial/hobby purposes.
Jack,
I am a newbie at this list but I have been hunting for many years. I also have
had a few successes. Your success here is no small feat. I have just spent the
better part of the past two days hunting with the best knowledge I could
obtain. I have tried to do exactly as Darren recommends
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Below is a link that can be cut and pasted into a browser
that discusses removal of minerals from federal land.
I was told by a BLM officer that 150 pounds can be removed a
year for non-commercial/hobby purposes. The BLM will
Mike,
With all due respect, asking to trust you is a funny way to make a point. I
know you are good Mike but nobody without a crystal ball can tell you how long
a meteorite has sat on the ground. It takes science for that and I think you
know that. I don't mean to sound insulting I just can't
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
I guess I am saying that many of us including me would be
happy to follow your rules and learn from you and be a part
if this and now is always better than later especially with
the monsoons here. Many of this precious material WILL
I am not asking you to do anything, I give a crap if you trust me or not, it
does not need your approval. I said that the work is being done, you do not
need to know the details. I have hunted falls on 6 of the 7 continents, I think
I have learned over the last 13 years what a fall is. I also
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote:
a fall is. I also
know about rainfall, and as I said, the stones have now been
rained on, further rains will change little. Michael Farmer
Mike,
Carl is referring to the flash flooding which will inevitable wash them
Carl,
I think he was referring to degradation caused by rain. I don't think he
considered flash flooding.
You're right though, this isn't the high and dry sand of Holbrook. These
washes will be filled with water and these stones will be washed away and
buried, the crust quickly ground off
Jeff, This area is overwhelmingly state land. It is fenced entirely and at
every gate it is clearly posted No Trespassing and entry requires a permit.
Very serious and scary signs. And lots of Border patrol in area. I would say
that a border patrol passes every two minutes on all of the roads
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote:
I am skeptical that this covers
meteorites, even if a BLM employee
thinks it does. Very skeptical.
jeff
It doesn't specifically refer to meteorites in that document, but maybe the
laws which govern meteorites supersede these
Dear Jeff,
I beg to differ with your opinion.
I talked with several BLM officers and received conflicting assessments. This
is where I agree with you.
Where I disagree is that the officers entrusted with enforcing the law all
stated that meteorites could be removed for non-commercial
Mark, Ruben, List
The way it rained there today I doubt any meteorites remain. It poured down
rain. My wipers were going full speed and even non wash areas had enough water
to pick up and wash away all small rocks and yes, meteorites too. very sad.
Carl or Debbie Esparza
IMCA 5829
We know about the flooding potential here since all of us hunting are
from Arizona. Why do you think I sent a photo of us in the wash? By
the way anyone thinking of hunting here should really understand how
our summer storms work. If you park you car anywhere that water can
flow you can
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Jeff, This area is overwhelmingly
state land. It is fenced entirely and at every gate it is
clearly posted No Trespassing and entry requires a permit.
Very serious and scary signs. And lots of Border patrol in
area. I would say
Hi Listees!
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Members use coupon code metlist at checkout on my website for a 25%
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A quick shout out - Congratulations again to Dr. Jack Schrader on his
recent recovery of the NEW ARIZONA FALL!
Hi List,
I was going to reply in regards to governments owning meteorites.
Instead, I decided to post a non-reply.
A victory for thinking before hitting Send.! LOL
Best regards and congrats to Jack again!
MikeG
On 7/5/09, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear Jeff,
I
Arizona is a big state. Storms are scattered not a drop in Tucson today. I am
sure stones are resting comfortably.
Quite sure all is well...
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone
Michael
On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:55 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Mark, Ruben, List
The way it rained there today I doubt
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Michael Farmer meteoritehun...@comcast.net wrote:
If you park you car anywhere that water
can flow you can kiss it goodbye and your life as well as we
go from sand to raging torrents of water in seconds even if
not raining on you. Be careful.
And I know you're aware
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Mark, Ruben, List
The way it rained there today I doubt any meteorites
remain. It poured down rain. My wipers were going full speed
and even non wash areas had enough water to pick up and wash
away all small rocks and yes,
Yes Jeff,
in a positive sense, cause meteorites are certainly no resources.
And else I can't find meteorites mentioned at all there.
And if I follow the sentence (according Austrian laws) about the Austrian
part of the Neuschwanstein fall, it offers an interesting aspect,
which might has to be
Well put Martin. :)
Private landowner first - if the meteorite falls on private property.
(large corporations and governments need not apply)
Science next - with the hopes that private landowner will do the right
thing and donate some of the fall to science.
Hunters next - they do the real work
Its for the very reasons you mentioned that I asked to be a part of this hunt.
As I have never had experience at something like this, I wanted to be a part of
it and use it as a learning experience. To be told that the location would be
kept secret I feel is wrong.
I see something like the
I have been panning for gold in the Sierra and got real lucky this summer. Why
don't I just tell you my GPS co-ordinates so you can come help me. Especially
since you did half the leg work...NOT
Take a chill pill Greg, I don't think any of the dealers will miss any of your
precious
Eventually the press will show up. This can not stay quiet forever. Then we
will see who is responsible for the resulting cluster and chaos.
Howard Steffic
From: cyna...@charter.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
Private landowner first - if the meteorite falls on private
property.
(large corporations and governments need not apply)
Ouch, I work for a large corporation and we're just as liable for any damage or
injury
Interesting take on all of this, Martin,
I just wanted to add a few corrections to my initial post. I stated 150 pounds
could be removed in a year. I reread my notes taken from what a BLM agent from
Barstow said and they state that 25 pounds a day or 250 pounds a year can be
legally brought
oops, sorry, it wasn't something I didn't want to share publicly, but I felt
I've been spamming the list a bit and was trying to cut the volume...
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] OFF LIST -list] Arizona
There is really not much need for all of this theory, you don't know where the
fall is, or what land it is on, we do. Maps are pretty cool things, they tell
you where you are and who owns the land.
We are working on it.
Nuff said.
Michael Farmer
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Mark Bowling
Im glad you seem to understand where I am coming from, this was not meant as an
attack, just my frustration at not being able to join in on what I would
consider a great learning experience.
When I was told it was being kept secret, I felt pretty upset at the fact that
it seemed to be that
Only those who grovel at getting their faces on the news will bring the press.
I think Jack already said that he will bring them when he is ready. Anyone else
calling the news will not have much to tell them other than that stones have
been found. Do that, cause more problems believe me, this
Greg, you seem to have a good heart, but you are coming off as very nasty.
Just go hunt, I learned on my own, most people learn by doing. My first real
fall was Monahans, then months later Portales, I learned on the spot, alone, it
was every man for himself.
We make a living at this, now you
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote:
There is really not much need for all of this theory, you
don't know where the fall is, or what land it is on, we do.
Maps are pretty cool things, they tell you where you are and
who owns the land.
We are working on it.
Thanks Chris for this significant piece of information.
Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net
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From: christopher sharp cas...@cooloola.net
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:54 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Solar
Hi Adam,
I was just told, that in US a meteorite always gets part of the land :-(
Mike G., I'd rather say:
Science always first
with a preemption to buy or to get all in exchange for a fair compensation.
The height of compensation has to be known before of course, else nobody
will come for
List,
It is said that they want to document the fall site, map the strewn field.
I have a question. In order to map the strewn field, you need to find the
meteorites, right?
So, if you thourghly map the strewn field, this means you find all the
meteorites.
What will be left for others to
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 04:47:46 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Adam,
I was just told, that in US a meteorite always gets part of the land :-(
Yep. 40 acres. And a mule.
Oh, wait-- I was thinking of something else.
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There is no such thing as hunted out.
Give me a break holbrooks being found 100 years after the fall.
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone
Michael
On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net wrote:
List,
It is said that they want to document the fall site, map the strewn
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Michael Farmer meteoritehun...@comcast.net wrote:
There is no such thing as hunted
out.
Give me a break holbrooks being found 100 years after the
fall.
Michael Farmer
I hope this means that what you guys have seen indicates this is a huge fall!
;-) Woo hoo!
Mark
Hello Greg C.,
First thing I would do if I were you would be polite to those who you seek
information from! I am sure you remember the saying comparing honey and
vinegar... don't feel bad, I hear there are other's who are frustrated
with the finding team's well-earned 'good luck'!!
Greg H.
I will break this down some...
Greg, you seem to have a good heart, but you are coming off as very nasty.
Thanks, I do have a good heart, and I dont want to come off as nasty - its hard
to get your points across how you want them to be on the internet.
We make a living at this, now you are
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