[meteorite-list] Smiling Crater

2009-08-28 Thread Meteorites USA
Smile everyone... http://blog.taragana.com/n/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/life-on-mars-aliens-send-big-im-smiley-to-the-earth-040208.jpg Have a nice day! Regards, Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Art (ad, almost)

2009-08-28 Thread Dr. Branch
variety of artists, try Novaspace: Novaspace is a great place for astro art. Kim Poor is the owner. He is a former space artist. Several of Kim's and other artist prints are hanging in my study now. My daughter has the little girl playing in a sandbox on the moon in her room.

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Rob McCafferty
That is just hogwash in my opinion---the Drake Equation proves that life MUST exist elsewhere. ERRMM! So what happens to the result if just one of the many factors happens to have a value of zero? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Becky and Kirk
Rob, Astronomers have now concluded that there are over 100 Trillion galaxies in the known Universe with EACH galaxy averaging over 1 billion stars---and this is an estimate!! You seem to be underestimating the size of our Universe. There is no way any of Drake's final values could be

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Phil Whitmer
The Drake Equation is a prime example of mental masuturbation. It proves absolutely nothing. How can an equation prove anything when none of the variables are known with any certainity? As Rob points out, one zero nullifies the whole silly thing. How about Ne; the number of known Earth like

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Phil Whitmer
Kirk, We all know the Universe is really, really big. Maybe even infinite, maybe infinite plus one, maybe even double dog infinite. What does that have to do with abiogenisis? Why don't you tell me how life got started here on Earth, (that would be real science), then we'll move on to whether

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:40:09 -0400, you wrote: The Drake Equation is a prime example of mental masuturbation. It proves absolutely nothing. How can an equation prove anything when none of the variables are known with any certainity? As Rob points out, one zero nullifies the whole silly thing.

[meteorite-list] Randy Korotev-- one cool character

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
One word: snotcicles. http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/08/28/rockin-since-1969/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Phil, List, Humanity's arrogance is only outweighed by it's ignorance. You say NO... I say prove it. I say possible... You say not! There's more evidence that there IS than proof there's NOT. A closed mind knows nothing and agrees with nothing but itself... An open mind however realizes

Re: [meteorite-list] Randy Korotev-- one cool character

2009-08-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear list, I agree, Randy is a great guy. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the 39th Lunar and Planetary Conference in Houston. His poster session was next to the one I was privileged to work. He is probably the most lunar-enthusiastic person I have ever met. Not only that, he is a lot of

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted/we are the aliens!

2009-08-28 Thread Steve Dunklee
the fastest reproducing micro organism has a reproduction rate of once every ten minutes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbe this reproduction rate if there was one change in dna every ten minutes would result in just shy of 53 billion different combinations in a billion years. different

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Norbert Classen
Dear Phil, and Exobio-Scepticists, I wouldn't give too much on whatever Crichton has to say - how about doing some real homework, and studying books written by scientists first? Read, e.g., Vital Dust by Nobel Prize winner Christian de Duve who answers most of the basic questions on how it

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Phil Whitmer
Hi Eric: All those really smart people you mentioned and countless others could all put their heads together in one huge conference call and between them, they still could not figure out something so simple as how abiogenisis actually works. A simple basic question: how does non living

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Mexicodoug
Let's use this line of reasoning: the oceans are really really big, not infinite, but really big. At the bottom of the Marianas Trench lives a society of mermaids, mermen and sea serpents. How do I know this? Because the oceans are really big! That spoofed proof by contradiction is flawed for

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:49:07 -0400, you wrote: still could not figure out something so simple as how abiogenisis actually works. A simple basic question: how does non living matter become alive? You seem really fixated on this point. Are you, I ask out of curiosity, working from a religious

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Ted Bunch
Dear Norbert, well stated. As a scientist and the retired Chief of the Exobiology Branch at NASA Ames, where much work has and is being done on ET organic chemistry, I agree with your assessment, although much of the cosmogenic organics are abiotic. However, with the right environment the abiotic

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Phil Whitmer
Norbert, Maybe you could just sum it up for me in a nutshell and explain the principles and mechanics of non living matter suddenly becoming alive. I admit, I'm way too dumb to figure it out. In a paragraph, explain abiogenisis for me. My basic point is, humans are too stupid to figure out

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:07:32 -0400, you wrote: My basic point is, humans are too stupid to figure out how life got started here on Earth. Now that, is unmitigated BULLSHIT. The fact that a question has not been fully answered yet does NOT necessiate that a question is unanserable. More is

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted/we are the aliens!

2009-08-28 Thread Steve Dunklee
I forgot to mention the extinction events happeninmg every 100k years or so. which would require species evolved from one celluar organisms to man in less than a million years. with observed reproduction rates of all species on earth this is just not possible! and to make this meteorite

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Phil Whitmer
Darren, Of course I'm fixated on the origin of life, that's what this thread is about isn't it? Nobody knows what life is or how it got started here on our own home planet, so how could we possibly know it exists elsewhere? Just because we want it to does not make it so. And I'm still

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:13:40 -0400, you wrote: nothing but conjecture based on beliefs. Your belief in alien life forms sounds religious to me, like you have faith in something you know ain't so. I don't have belief in alien life forms-- I simply do not have a conviction that the conditions

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Come on, Darren. Phil only has to return: Science is the new religion. And he wouldn't be that wrong. Nobody knows what life is he writes. Big thing, if I ask my cat, she says: eating, sleeping and a sparklet of magic, stupid! If there is life out there, I rather would ask, will we ever know

Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-28 Thread Becky and Kirk
Blah blah blah---OK---we agree to disagree! No one knows for sure butsimple life probably started as a soup on Earth made from carbon and amino acids being brought here by comets, asteroids meteors. The rest is the handi-work of progressive evolution, Earth energies (lightning) and the

[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted: A Rotifer's Point of View ( A Re-Post)

2009-08-28 Thread bernd . pauli
Kirk wrote: Try to prove differently! Probably once again time to post *this* :-) Sky Telescope, August 1984, p. 111: A Rotifer's Viewpoint The members of the Little Puddlian Philosophical Society were engaged in a debate about the possibility of life outside of Little Puddle. The chief

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Blood
Well, It is the second day of temps over 100% in SD - and there isn't Even a Santa Anna (wind reversal from the usual cooling breezes Blowing from the ocean eastward to HOT winds blowing from the Desert westward). Wonder how hot it is in Tucson right now? Speaking of

Re: [meteorite-list] Tuscon Show dates here

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Blood
Here are the Tucson Show dates for the following years: January 30 - February 14, 2010 = Birthday Bash Fri 5th, Auction Sat, 6th January 29 - February 13, 2011 = Birthday Bash Fri 4th, Auction Sat, 5th January 28 - February 12, 2012 = Birthday Bash Fri 3rd ,Auction Sat, 4th February 2-

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show

2009-08-28 Thread Richard Kowalski
107F on my back patio -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday,

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show

2009-08-28 Thread James Baxter
Hi Michael, Arizona Mineral Fossil Show, Tucson, AZ Dates: January 30–February 13, 2010 http://www.mzexpos.com/arizona.htm Cheers, Jim Baxter - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction-Location

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Blood
Hi John, The location is 1150 N. Beverly at the VFW hall where it was Last year and 4 of the last 5 years. Don't forget, I try to get a very interesting presenter prior to The auction at about 6PM (last year it was Jerry Armstrong) and there is usually cake at 7:10I haven't

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction-Location

2009-08-28 Thread Larry Twink Monrad
I can't wait to bury some meteorites in the Gold Basin cake once again, so the previous cake doner says Let them eat cake! . Twink Monrad __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction-Location

2009-08-28 Thread Richard Kowalski
Michael, I have created a POI file that can be loaded into GPS receivers which has all of the major locations for the Tucson Show. I am going to add the location for the auction to the file, so those who have these units will get turn by turn directions there as well. It isn't available

[meteorite-list] Ad Sale auctions ending on ebay tonight Friday August 28, 2009: Zag, Long Island, Zagami, Lake Murray, Overland Park, BOXHOLE, Korra Korrabes, NWA 801, Tulia (a), Richfield

2009-08-28 Thread Brian Cox
Hello fellow Meteorite Collector, I hope you had a great week and that you're ready for a great weekend! I have a few auctions on ebay that end this weekend. Please have a look if you like. Here is the link to my seller's page or you can click on a link below.

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction-Location

2009-08-28 Thread Timothy Heitz
I can't wait, I hope I find an oriented one:)with flow lines:)and a big roll over lip:)with secondary and primary fusion crust:) So Twink are you going to let me cut the cake in very narrow strips :) Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: Larry Twink Monrad

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show

2009-08-28 Thread Kashuba
Michael, I have your auction penciled in for 7:30 PM Saturday 6 February, 2010. Just tell us where it will be. http://www.xpopress.com/Tucson-show-schedule.html http://www.tgms.org/showinfo.htm - John John Kashuba Ontario, California -Original Message- From:

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented Meteorites / Auction

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Blood
Tim, I certainly hope my Characteristics of Oriented Meteorites Will be available before the show! I will bring a bunch for sale And autographing. For those that buy from me at the show, I will Make note of the 2010 Tucson Show in my signing comments. It would be very cool if

[meteorite-list] AD-ebay auctions, Spacified items

2009-08-28 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha mai kakou, With the weekend just around the corner, I'd like to announce an ebay auction ending tomorrow, Saturday August 29, 11:34 PDT. Up on the block are a fresh Bassi shoe; oriented and cherry NWA 869; Juancheng, Huckitta and Korra Korrabes endcuts; a small NWA pallasite

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented Meteorites / Auction

2009-08-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:00:13 -0700, you wrote: Tim, I certainly hope my Characteristics of Oriented Meteorites Will be available before the show! I thought your book was supposed to be on hammers? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented Meteorites / Auction

2009-08-28 Thread Gary Fujihara
I think that's a different book due out later. But how about a book on oriented hammers? Might be kinda thin though ;^) g On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Darren Garrison wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:00:13 -0700, you wrote: Tim, I certainly hope my Characteristics of Oriented

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show

2009-08-28 Thread Adam Hupe
I don't know what the temperatures have been running in Tucson but if they are anywhere near as hot as it is here in Laughlin, then you could definitely fry eggs on the pavement. It gets so hot here that not a single temperature gauge sign can be seen anywhere in town because it is bad for the

[meteorite-list] AD ; uNWA SALE

2009-08-28 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Hello List, Up for sale, 3 very nice meteorites from NWA high desert with black fusion crast and thumbprints. If you are interested, contact me at alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com Pictures : http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/ My best Aziz Alhyane Abdelaziz Taliouine 83500 Morocco +212 6

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction-Location

2009-08-28 Thread Larry Twink Monrad
I might be willing to lend my little pinpointer, the tiny hand held metal detector, to the highest bidder...but I am afraid my nice oriented meteorites will have to stay in my cabinet. And at 7:09 pm it is still 106 here in Oro Valley. Twink - Original Message - From: Timothy