Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

2009-11-14 Thread Melanie Matthews
col121-w46736c87e94b53e455d699b7...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Get a grip=2C man=2C=2C if you don't like these threads involving newcomers= asking for important/useful advice - you can ignore/delete

[meteorite-list] Modeling a trilion-dollar catastrophe - Tunguska scenario

2009-11-14 Thread The Tricottet Collection
Hi list, I sent a link to my report 'Comet and Asteroid Risk: An Analysis of the 1908 Tunguska Event' some time ago, here is a recent article on that in Business Insurance: http://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20091109/BLOGS04/911099987 Best, ArnaudM

[meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice Hunt

2009-11-14 Thread Greg Hupe
Hey Mike Co. ~ Way cool hunt! Already successful, and a week to go! Man, I do regret not going there with you guys!! The Eucrites, Vino, Spanish language...friends (finding eucrites, oh yah, drinking Vino...), way too cool!!! Hey..., Mel, Jim, Robert and Moritz (and others...), go out and

Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice Hunt

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Gheesling
Ward is hunting far out, trying to expand the strewnfield into the mountains, as it surely must go. ...as would be expected...love it...good luck RW! Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Beating a dead horse to Morocco

2009-11-14 Thread Carl 's
Hello Howard, All, You are absolutely correct. We newbies should not ask knowledgeable veterans such basic questions. We must do the legwork ourselves but never reveal how we do it to achieve our goals if someone asks. Speaking for myself I would like to thank you, Howard, for all the

Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

2009-11-14 Thread dave carothers
Howard, Your comment is moronic. This group is as much about posting information to assist newbies as anything else. You should know better. Dave - Original Message - From: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14,

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 14, 2009

2009-11-14 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_14_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Latvia Meteorite Hoax

2009-11-14 Thread oxytropidoceras
Dear Friends, Below are a collection of articles about the Latvia Meteorite Hoax. Geologist: Mazsalaca meteorite in Latvia is man-made, Baltic Course, Oct. 27, 2009 http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/baltic_news/?doc=4078 Mobile Firm Admits 'Meteor' Was A PR Stunt Sky News, Oct. 27, 2009,

[meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Kevin Kichinka
I want to bring two iron meteorites, one a Campo of 10 kgs., the other a Gibeon of 4 kgs., to Costa Rica from Miami on American Airlines. I would never check them and take a chance they might disappear. I would carry them on the plane in a small suitcase. Are these prohibited items? How do

Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

2009-11-14 Thread Howard Steffic
My point is, and perhaps you can explain why. Any meteorite dealer or professional hunter should teach anybody how be a competitor? Do you think McDonalds would teach you how to run a restaurant? The logic that is used by some of these newbies is what is moronic. I don't hunt or

Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

2009-11-14 Thread dave carothers
Howard, Respectfully... Reference your comment I laugh at how the newbies expect the veterans with the battle scars to tell them exacty how to Hunt Meteorites or Sell on Ebay or send money overseas. Get off the couch and do your own legwork. Why should it bother YOU that someone

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread dave carothers
Kevin, Have you called the airline or TSA and asked their advice? Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Darryl Pitt
in my experience, it's at the discretion of the TSA supervisor on duty. good luck. best/ d, On Nov 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Kevin Kichinka wrote: I want to bring two iron meteorites, one a Campo of 10 kgs., the other a Gibeon of 4 kgs., to Costa Rica from Miami on American Airlines. I

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Robert Woolard
Hello Kevin,   Others on the List will have much more experience and better advice to give you, but here are a couple of my experiences.    Inconsistency seems to be the rule of thumb. And, no doubt, 9-11 has changed things. Years ago I flew a 75lb meteorite in a carry on bag with no problems

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread dave carothers
Sorry Kevin and all, Please ignore my last. I just saw Adam's post. It is much more to the point and he obviously has better knowledge of this than I. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: dave carothers carother...@gmail.com To: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com;

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Darryl Pitt
In light of Adam's comment, I should amplify my own... I recently flew with the 4.7 kg Lovina mass---which does have a spiked, truncheon vibe---and sailed through after an explanation. I was prepared to check it if necessary. I have never had a problem with someone checking the weight

Re: [meteorite-list] BEATING A DEAD HORSE - The future and beyond

2009-11-14 Thread Greg Catterton
I would have to agree with you Dave. I also think that it shows a good deal about someone who is willing to help others, just as it shows a good deal about those that are not willing. Howards comments reflect a perfect example of why I have grown to have the impression that meteorites are dog

[meteorite-list] Jim Smaller

2009-11-14 Thread Larry Sloan
Jim was a trove of knowledge and information that will never be replaced. My condolences go out to Sue and his family. I first met Jim during the early era of searching the Franconia field. We often laughed about an incident that took place during this time period. Jim didn't have a GPS at first,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Darren Garrison
Just as long as you aren't carrying something really dangerous, like a snow globe... http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2010260025_websnow12.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Adam Hupe
I rememember before 9-11, Mike Farmer lugging the ~100 Lbs main mass of the Fredericksburg Hexahedrite thorough several airports. He carried it on from Alaska and stored it in an overhead bin where it rolled around. Imagine if this would have bonked somebody on the head when opening the

Re: [meteorite-list] BEATING A DEAD HORSE - The future and beyond

2009-11-14 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Howard said - My point is, and perhaps you can explain why. Any meteorite dealer or professional hunter should teach anybody how be a competitor? Do you think McDonalds would teach you how to run a restaurant? My condolences to any dealer of meteorites who wants to emulate the US

[meteorite-list] Carry on

2009-11-14 Thread meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
I obviously meant to type break out a window, not brake out. Little too fast on the Send button on my previous post. Sorry. Robert Sent from my iPhone __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] WHY HELP A DUMB ASS NEWBIE?

2009-11-14 Thread countdeiro
Or, what do newbies mean to the ongoing collection, classification, sale and display of meteorites? I'm a newbie. I haven't yet found a meteorite and apparently this is one of the qualifiers to be a real deal meteorite hunter/collector. I don't have a clue what other qualifiers are. What I

[meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition

2009-11-14 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Listees, With respect to all, but without concern for offending the easily offendable I would like to say: If you want to learn about meteorites ASK. If you want to sell meteorites, then buy them, or find them, and sell them. If you want to collect meteorites then collect them. If you want

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Dennis Miller
In mine, the TSA in Cairo considered my samples as Hazardous Projectiles and would not allow them as carry-on. Had to check them. That was in September. Got home with them O.K. Just fossels, got stopped for my meteorite search in Sudan. Dennis From: dar...@dof3.com To: mars...@gmail.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition

2009-11-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List, I think it is crazy to talk about corporate greed and meteorites at the same time. There are much simpler ways of earning money than chasing and selling meteorites. You have to have a love for these rocks to engage at this level. The overhead is astonishing while the returns are

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition (Government Bailout of the Meteorite Industry?)

2009-11-14 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Adam, You are right, I did jump to conclusions in my last post. But, when I heard meteorites being compared to McDonalds, it made me cringe. The last thing anyone wants is Meteorite Value Meals.or is it? H LOL Best regards, MikeG PS - instead of making meteorites

[meteorite-list] Question regarding Vaca Muerta Strewnfield

2009-11-14 Thread Felipe Guajardo
Hello everyone, Last month I posted a question regarding the Vaca Muerta Strewnfield but didn't get a definite answer. I'm going to try again. This December, I'm planning on going to northern chile and hunting both Imilac and Vaca Muerta Strewnfields. The coordinates online for Vaca Muerta are 25°

[meteorite-list] Giving Help on list

2009-11-14 Thread Michael Blood
In my opinion, Dave Howard BOTH present excellent points of view. When IS it asking too much when people are asking advice? Some likely resent it when Chicago Steve asks a question of the List he could easily look up, himself, for instance. On the other Hand, part of the value of the list

Re: [meteorite-list] BEATING A DEAD HORSE - The future and beyond

2009-11-14 Thread Howard Steffic
Well Greg... The way you ended your email pretty much says it all: Just my two pennies. From what I understand that is pyou pretty much all you have to spend. So you get deserve two cents worth. Pretty much way down on the food chain in my opinion. Business in the USA is a dog eat dog

[meteorite-list] Tucson TV Viewers - Wavelengths on KUAT

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hello All, For those of you who live in the Tucson area, I'd like to draw your attention to the new episode of Wavelengths, airing Sunday at 630pm on KUAT This episode will be about astronomy and will have a number of segments. Of potential interest will be the segment on the Catalina Sky

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition

2009-11-14 Thread Melanie Matthews
All very valid points - agree! --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09   Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:18:09 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com

Re: [meteorite-list] WHY HELP A DUMB ASS NEWBIE?

2009-11-14 Thread Melanie Matthews
Well said, CD. Regards --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:56:52

[meteorite-list] santa rosa and newbies

2009-11-14 Thread steve arnold
Good evening list.Just about ready to go see the end of the world. 2012 the movie! I just got my 51 gram slice of SANTA ROSA.The iron that bob c. is selling for $6 a gram.A steal at that price when some other people are selling for $10 a gram and up.A real treat here for this

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-14 Thread Greg Hupe
Hi Kevin and List, I had an experience in 2005 while returning home from Morocco with a 1.6kg stone in my carry-on bag. That 'stone' later became known as NWA 3163, a new and quite large lunar meteorite. The flight from Morocco to New York was without problems. It wasn't until I switched

[meteorite-list] Is there a search window / search Option for Meteorite Mailing List ?????

2009-11-14 Thread oxytropidoceras
Carl wrote: In [meteorite-list] WHY HELP A DUMB ASS NEWBIE? For those not familiar with Howard's input, please type Howard Steffic in the search window. Did you write Search Window?? Does the Meteorite Mailing list have a search window / way of searching its postings? If so, could

[meteorite-list] Spoiled Rotten...

2009-11-14 Thread Jason Chadwick
Hello, I have been a collector of meteorites since the days of Nininger and in fact, I have 100's of specimens that I personally purchased from him when I was a young man. Over the years, I have seen much change in the field and many people come and go from collecting meteorites, but never

Re: [meteorite-list] Is there a search window / search Option for Meteorite Mailing List ?????

2009-11-14 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Paul, list, You can search the Met-List archives here: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/info.html Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA oxytropidoce...@cox.net wrote: Carl wrote: In [meteorite-list] WHY HELP A DUMB ASS NEWBIE? For those not

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition

2009-11-14 Thread Jerry Flaherty
Do unto ... Think positive But BE happily surprised at any good fortune or good turn offered or given The only DUMB question is the one not asked -- From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Saturday, November

[meteorite-list] Fw: RE: WHY HELP A DUMB ASS NEWBIE?

2009-11-14 Thread countdeiro
-Forwarded Message- From: countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 14, 2009 8:30 PM To: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] WHY HELP A DUMB ASS NEWBIE? Yes. I am Count Guido Roberto Deiro. Perillustrious (Lord) of Precorsa and Arya, Knight Grand Cross of

Re: [meteorite-list] santa rosa and newbies

2009-11-14 Thread countdeiro
Hi Steve and List, I, for one, will see you all in Tucson so I may personally thank Steve for the freebies and the List for your posts. Always interesting ...if not controversial. Count Deiro (newbie) -Original Message- From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com Sent: Nov 14,

[meteorite-list] Tunguska rates

2009-11-14 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Arnauld, all, The problem is that Tunguska type blasts have been occuring recently (for the last 5,000 years) at a rate of 1 per 100 years, not 1 per 1,000. Whether this represents a short term phenonmenon or the long term rate is not currently known. I used to put together catalogues of

[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-11-14 Thread Dennis Miller
_Meteorite Bashing Dictionary_ New-Bie [Noo-Bee, Nyoo-] -noun One who is inexperienced; one who's collection is valued less that one million dollars; an enthusiast who has not been published, in the meteorite world; one who's name has not made Cambridge Meteorite Encyclopedia;

[meteorite-list] Barred Chondrule Fans JaH 055 incident light micrograph gallery update

2009-11-14 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi List, Last week I emailed the list about a SaU 001 chondrule shot that I wanted to send in full resolution to anyone who wanted it. There were over 40 takers but unfortunately many had Internet provider limits on file size so they couldn't get the full size file. I had some beautiful

Re: [meteorite-list] Barred Chondrule Fans JaH 055 incident lightmicrograph gallery update

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Gheesling
Tom, One word: spectacular. Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of starsandsco...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:21 PM To:

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-11-14 Thread Melanie Matthews
I could care less which I fall under! I'm here to ask and learn, at times share share my own kowledge get in touch with Moroccan dealers and to make some friends who are in the hobby.. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified

[meteorite-list] Re Newbies

2009-11-14 Thread Pete Shugar
I have sat by and watched a lot of venom be injected into this good list. It exists to further the hobby and dealers that supply the hobby with high grade honest new meteorites so we can spend our dwindling cash on them to get our daily fix. Howard, it is plain to see that you are out for only

[meteorite-list] Desert glass purchase

2009-11-14 Thread Paul G. Spears
Hi, all: I am looking for some desert glass. Single piece of 200 grams m/l, good quality, in as-found condition. Please include shipping costs in price. Please respond off-line, with pics if you have them now or can provide them later. I will deal with private parties or with any dealers

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-11-14 Thread bill kies
Speaking from the ducks point of view. I, as I'm sure many hundreds of others, joined this list to learn from the masters as well as pick up info on recent falls. Well, I sure got a lesson. I don't expect jack anymore and I assure you that I will never share meteorite knowledge of any kind on

[meteorite-list] Dawn's Re-Entry Into Asteroid Belt

2009-11-14 Thread Meteorites USA
On November 13, Dawn will enter the asteroid belt to stay as its silent flight takes it past 1.666 AU from the Sun. Dawn will remain in the belt for the rest of its mission and well beyond. It will become a permanent inhabitant of that part of the solar system, the first emissary from Earth

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Newbies

2009-11-14 Thread Melanie Matthews
Always out to be #1 = immaturity. I'd say ignore their petty antics and continue doing what ya gotta do LOL. Regards --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're