Hey Mike,
Sorry to hear about the terrible problems you guys are going through. I
shouldn't have gotten nasty with you as well, so sorry about that. Best wishes
from Tucson (Vail).
Mark Bowling
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Hi Robert.
I'm still in Tucson, but I checked with a friend in Bakersfield, 100 miles
south of Fresno. He said he hadn't heard anything about it on the local
news. Sounds interesting though. I hope we learn more.
Linton
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From: Robert Ward
Hi Robert.
I'm still in Tucson, but I checked with a friend in Bakersfield, 100 miles
south of Fresno. He said he hadn't heard anything about it on the local
news. Sounds interesting though. I hope we learn more.
Linton
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From: Robert Ward
Just for the record,
I purchased a thick slice of the
Brenham pictured in the LA Times, and threw it in a glass case without
any preservation at all. I do have a small desiccant bag in the case,
but this piece doesn't have a single speck of rust on it 3 years
later.
Hello List,
After a get evening of meal fellowship at the IMCA dinner in Tucson...thanks in
no small part to Maria Haas..I found this post online that shows a re-entry at
cosmic speeds of 10' metal space craft quite analigious to a meteor. Note the
way a strewn field is produced.. Of course
Errors... I meant to say great instead of get, and that Jules Vern
garbage truck was 10 meters long. Too many beers.
Count Deiro
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Re-entry break
Dear Fellow Listees,
Our ebay auctions ending on Saturday can be seen at:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZmeteoriteshow
They include:
1- Ain Ouinet (unclass.) CV3 - 20.7g endcut
Endcut weighing 20.7g, dimensions ~33x24x22mm.
Diplays sharply defined chondrules including 2 HUGE
Shawn,
This is very weak for these arguments. It only says this;
United States of America. A find is owned by the landowner.
A find on federal government property is owned by
the Department of the Interior but may be acquired by the
Smithsonian Institution.
The term here would be Fall Not Find.
Hi Everyone,
Apparently eBay screwed up my item number last night. My Meteorite lot that
I posted last night can be seen on eBay now by going to item #120526997613.
For some reason the item number has changed overnightweird.
Anyway---PLEASE take a L@@K!!
Thank You and have a great
Carl and Listers,
The example I gave might be half weak in your eyes, but the fact of the matter
is that it states that the landowner is entitled to the meteorite.
Now the answer to your question about who is entitled to the fall in question
and not the find is weak. What is in question is
Shawn,
As silly as it sounds, there are people who believe there is a difference
between a fall and afind. And although these seven words (A find is owned
by the landowner) might define ownership of a find. It does not address the
ownership of a fall. I think the Hodges case did address this
Prices have now been adjusted for my lot on ebay.
Please check again!
Kirk.
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Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:34 AM
Subject: FOR SALE: L@@K ON EBAY #120526997613 (12) Different
I keep watching for someone to post episode 2 of Meteorite Men somewhere (no
luck yet) and still every once and a while check around for the episode of Naked
Science about 2008 TC3 (also no luck) but I did find just about every other
episode of Naked Science in a torrent. So, what the heck--
Thanks, Darren, Please continue to keep a look out for the Meteorite Men and
N.S. Countdown to Impact videos. I've been dying to see those as most everyone
on this list.
Carl2
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Hello Shawn,
this article from McEwen, Schmitt et al. you linked,
is not very useful,
as it gives no authoritative orientation in the question of the ownership of
meteorites;
Because it is an interpretation of the convention, which might be somewhat
far-fetched, of a few individuals. It
Carl and Listers
Again can you please give me an example of someone owning the fall of a
meteorite thats relates to the Lorton meteorite.
As for the Lorton meteorite the meteorite didnt find the Dr's they found the
meteorite. They didnt find the fall of the meteorite because the meteorite had
I picked up a few small oriented Taza from Geoff N. yesterday. One, the size
and shape of a canine tooth, has a partial coating of what appears to be
caliche around the middle.
I'm not ready to take a wire brush to it just yet, but I was wondering if there
is another (non mechanical) way to
Hello,
(Forwarded for Michael Cottingham)
Hello,
Trying to raise some quick cash to pull a new meteorite out of the field. So, I
am going to offer some super low prices on some well watched and special
meteorites
These are special for list members only, please contact me for payment
Well... whether it was an ownerless object, whether it became part of the
ground
I have a question:
How could we and science survive 200 years,
how could Homo Sapiens survive 200,000 years
and how could survive this planet 4 500 000 000 years
without any law about ownership of meteorites
Hi all. I do believe the meteorite did break into three pieces. The landowner
gets one piece, the DR. gets one piece and the Smithsonian gets one. Just a
thought. Thx Julie
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There's really no question here, the landowner owns the meteorite. (period)
The People's Rock? Maybe in the People's Republic of China!
Phil Whitmer
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Hi Richard,
I use vinegar... Apple cider vinegar works pretty good too. I guess it's
a bit stronger. I've also heard citric acid works well, but I've never
tried it.
Regards,
Eric Wichman
On 2/5/2010 9:13 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote:
I picked up a few small oriented Taza from Geoff N.
Hi Richard,
I use vinegar... Apple cider vinegar works pretty good too. I guess it's
a bit stronger. I've also heard citric acid works well, but I've never
tried it.
Regards,
Eric Wichman
On 2/5/2010 9:13 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote:
I picked up a few small oriented Taza from Geoff N.
Dear Listees:
I am thrilled to announce that Chris Cokinos, author of my favorite
meteorite book, The Fallen Sky, will be doing a book signing in our
room tomorrow afternoon. We have a tentative time of 2 pm and will
confirm that later. The signing will take place in Anne's and my
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
February 1-5, 2010
o Proctor Crater Dunes (01 February 2010)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100201a
o Arkhangelsky Crater (02 February 2010)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100202a
o Lycus Sulci (03 February 2010)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100203a
o Patapsco Vallis
Phil,
I assume from this bold statement that you either have inside information or
you are not familiar with the American legal system.
Most people including myself agree that you are probably right and the past
precedent says it belongs to the landlord. . The Smithsonian and the Doctors
are
Poor doctor,
hey veterans! Remember?
In former times, each new find or find of new meteorite was a happy, happy
event.
And nowadays?
People fighting on the street in Park Forest,
Evil blood in Ash Creek,
Schrader gets harassed for his Arizona fall finds,
Bouzzard Coulee the export mess,
Good morning listee's.I forgot an update to last night on day 2. I also had the
good fortune to meet SVEND BUHL from germany.A very nice and classy
person.Welcome to tucson svend.We went out to dinner with bob haag and had a
great time out at lil abners steak house.And we ate and drank for 2
Well... whether it was an ownerless object, whether it became part of the
ground
I have a question:
How could we and science survive 200 years,
how could Homo Sapiens survive 200,000 years
and how could survive this planet 4 500 000 000 years
without any law about ownership of
Hi Martin and All,
Everything is relative and it could get much worse!:( Maybe now is happy times
afterall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaW4Ol3_M1ofeature=fvst
Carl2
Martin wrote:
hey veterans! Remember?
In former times, each new find or find of new meteorite was a happy, happy
event...
No, I asked, how we survived without.
When the day is long, I sometimes think, why hasn't Andorra a meteorite law
yet? But Denmark has.
Seriously, everything was going perfectly without meteorite laws, nobody
felt a need for meteorite laws.
Especially in the last 10-20 years, the find rates
A coincidence that when the first pistol picture was posted a gunman named
Redondo shot a Gilbert Arizona policeman in the head and killed him as well as
shooting at other police chasing and catching him and his partner. Remember
Arizona is a gun happy state.
I'm sure all of us are very sorry to here of such a tragedy, and our
hearts go out to those families touched by such a devastating event, but
I'm reasonably sure people do not wish to hear more of the gun issue
on the meteorite list.
Regards,
Eric
On 2/5/2010 5:36 PM, Carleton Moore wrote:
Hi list,
I have read (and been told) the barred olivine chondrules wire a result of
a shock wave traveling through the early soup. Maybe in some instances
but not in this one. It GREW!
If ordinary BO chondrules are a result of a shock wave then a new name is
needed for this type of
Hiya Carl, gun lovers and haters:
I was merely stating the law as it now stands. If a meteorite falls on your
property, you own it. An open and shut case. If the Smithsonian wants to
appeal to the Supreme Court, the Court could possibly rule that current
meteorite laws are unconstitutional.
Those of you on Facebook: This is a very odd stone UNWA I sliced a few
hours ago. Full of iron, vesicles, very highly magnetic, odd metal,
white clasts and inclusions, and no visible chondrules to speak of.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profileid=1219094173
Enjoy...
Regards,
Eric
I'm puzzled by why so many of you seem to think the Smithsonian is
playing such an active role in this. First of all, the meteorite was
brought to them for identification; the SI did not make some kind of
power play to get it. And there is no indication that they are making a
power play to
Hello all,
If Dr. Moore wants to share anything with this list, please let's all
consider it an honor to be in his virtual presence regardless of the
topic.
thank you,
Martin
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
I'm sure all of us are very sorry to
Jeff,
As always you say the right thing but I would like to see this litigated in
this case due to the fact that these Doctors were in legal possession of the
real estate and this is a Fall and not a find. These laws only mention finds
and our hobby thinks there is a difference. As I asked
I agree with Eric and respectully disagree with Martin.
Rank, honors, degrees, accomplishments, etc. do not make it more appropriate
for one person to post off topic than another person who has not achieved
the same academic or other accomplishments.
After all of the discussion, I would
But at the same point and time, who was liable for payment for the damage
caused? Should they not be the ones to keep the material that caused the damage
as they had to pay for the repair, they should keep what did it.
The woman who was hit by the meteorite did not have the legal right to keep
Jeff, Carl and Listers.
Jeff I am excited to see what happens with the case with the Lorton meteorite
and glad you gave some good points. Why I think people are harping about the
Smithsonian is that its been stated in the News that they are going to hold the
meteorite till an owner is
RSPOD Calendar has been updated:
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/calendar.html
Please let me know if I have posted your photo but is not visible on the
calendar pages.
Sorry for the delay. Have been really backed up the past few months.
Thanks to everyone for your support!
Regards,
Michael
Taza also sometimes has iron staining on it so you can use TSP also called iron
out, a tablespoon in a cup of water should be enough. any farm store or
building supply should have it. I never recommend doing anything to a
meteorite, as the terrestrial weathering is natural and expected. It also
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