Re: [meteorite-list] Hot vs. Cold again...

2016-06-28 Thread Chris Peterson via Meteorite-list
Also important is to consider that the body in space may well have been a good fraction of a meter (or more) across. But a meteorite producing body didn't just ablate, it most likely fragments. And the small fragments very, very rapidly drop below the speed necessary to sustain ablation. So

Re: [meteorite-list] Hot vs. Cold again...

2016-06-28 Thread Rob Matson via Meteorite-list
Hi Elton, > Any body arriving from space is at least -60�c and closer to -120�c to -180�c > based on > some black body studies of asteroids-- IIRC The temperature for a typical earth-crossing asteroid with a chondritic composition is actually likely to be warmer than this -- perhaps -20 C.

Re: [meteorite-list] Hot vs Cold again...wasmMeteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread MEM via Meteorite-list
This was looked into several times in the list history. I am recalling details from those discussions/my research. Any body arriving from space is at least -60°c and closer to -120°c to -180°c based on some black body studies of asteroids-- IIRC The temperature at the air-meteoroid boundary

[meteorite-list] Dinosaur Eggs, Meteorites, Or Signs of an Ancient Civilisation?

2016-06-28 Thread Paul via Meteorite-list
Pearls' Sign of Ancient Civilization; Giant Balls Stun Locals by Jessica F, Nature world News, http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/24329/20160628/siberias-jurassic-pearls-sign-of-ancient-civilization-giant-balls-stun-locals.htm Are Siberia's 'Jurassic Pearls' the remains of an ancient

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
Hi Bob, I agree that some people are burned by the cold. But after reading many first hand reports I think that the “cold enough to burn” meteorites are those that are found ON the ground. The “too hot to touch” meteorites are the ones that have punched through something. I can’t prove it,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Robert Verish via Meteorite-list
People that have unknowingly picked up a piece of dry ice with their bare hands have sworn that it is burnt their fingers. Bob Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list wrote:   Hi Peter!     I get the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Chris Peterson via Meteorite-list
There's really no way for such a stone to be heated significantly by the energy dissipated when crashing through a roof. In all likelihood, the reason that observed falls are reported as hot is because people expect hot, and confuse hot with cold. I don't think the incidence of reports of

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
Hi Tom, You could very well be right. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Tommy [mailto:tomm...@hvc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:49 PM To: Peter Scherff Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Tommy via Meteorite-list
Peter, I'm going to go with the theory she was mistaken. I'm sure the crash kind of messed her mind up a tad at the time of impact. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 04:29 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: Hi Tom, Yes, I think so. There are too many reports of meteorites being hot to the touch. Those

[meteorite-list] Meteorite temperature (again)

2016-06-28 Thread Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list
If the meteorite had a temperature significantly different from ambient, I'd go with extremely cold (e.g. -30 F). To the unsuspecting, bitter cold could be misinterpreted as very hot. If you don't believe me, try putting a clothes iron in the freezer for a couple hours and then surprise someone

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
Hi Tom, Yes, I think so. There are too many reports of meteorites being hot to the touch. Those reports are almost always about meteorites that have punched through something (building, vehicle or ground). I trust this mass of anecdotal evidence. But we won't know for sure until some starts

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Tommy via Meteorite-list
Hi Peter! I get the friction part but THAT much friction? Tom On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: Hi Tom, I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of a board? The nail is

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
Hi Tom, I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching a hole through a home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now if they

[meteorite-list] Hammer time in Thailand?!

2016-06-28 Thread Art via Meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Tommy via Meteorite-list
"I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: __

[meteorite-list] Opal Discovered in Antarctic Meteorite

2016-06-28 Thread Paul via Meteorite-list
Opal-Studded Meteorite Hints at Origins of Earth's Water By Nola Taylor Redd, Space.com, June 27, 2016 http://www.space.com/33276-opal-pieces-found-in-antarctica-meteorite.html New Meteorite Offers Clues About the Origins of Life on Earth By Sophie Kleeman, Gizmodo, June 7, 2016

[meteorite-list] for Asteroid Day!: Space Drafts Asteroids Night June 29

2016-06-28 Thread Dolores Hill via Meteorite-list
Greetings Asteroid and Meteorite Aficionados! Celebrate *Asteroid**Day* with "Space Drafts/Astronomy on Tap" at Borderlands Brewery (119 E. Toole Ave.) in Tucson, Arizona, June 29th at 7:30 pm! This interesting set of free talks will celebrate*asteroid facts and exploration*! Join Dr.

[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Collection For Sale

2016-06-28 Thread Meteorite World via Meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] From the dailybruin.com - Couple loans unexpected find to UCLA Meteorite Gallery

2016-06-28 Thread Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
What an amazing oriented shape...awesome find and great that it will be exhibited. Graham On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Jason Utas via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Some additional photos: > > (1)

[meteorite-list] Curiosity Rover Findings Point to a More Earth-like Martian Past

2016-06-28 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6544 NASA Rover Findings Point to a More Earth-like Martian Past Jet Propulsion Laboratory June 27, 2016 Chemicals found in Martian rocks by NASA's Curiosity Mars rover suggest the Red Planet once had more oxygen in its atmosphere than it does

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

2016-06-28 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1022213/meteorite-crashes-through-phitsanulok-house-roof 'Meteorite' crashes through Phitsanulok house roof Bangkok Post 28 Jun 2016 PHITSANULOK - A mysterious rock, believed to be a meteorite, crashed through the roof of a house in Phitsanulok's

[meteorite-list] AD -Auctions Ending - Check Out The Monolith

2016-06-28 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members, Be sure to check out some auctions I have ending this evening. Remember that brown crust on lunar meteorites is considered normal due to the lack of iron and is not an indication of weathering. NWA 482 is a good example of this if you want compare the top-rated NWA 5000

[meteorite-list] Today in science: Egypt’s first meteorite

2016-06-28 Thread Tommy via Meteorite-list
http://earthsky.org/space/today-in-science-egypts-nakhla-meteorite Regards! Tom __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2016-06-28 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Sariçiçek Contributed by: Jean-Michel Masson http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=06/28/2016 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at