[meteorite-list] More pics up on Flickr

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, About a month ago, I started uploading a few new photos on Flickr - some hunting photos and shots of some irons, etc. I'm finally done - not because I'm out of photos, but because Flickr imposes a 200 photo limit on free accounts. It's full! www.flickr.com/cameteoritefinder - newer ones

Re: [meteorite-list] Largest 'Fall' Meteorite

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Utas
> Mile High Meteorites > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > P.O. Box 151293 > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Utas > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:12:22 > To: Ted Bunch; > Meteorite-list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest 'F

Re: [meteorite-list] Largest 'Fall' Meteorite

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Utas
Regards, Jason On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ted Bunch wrote: >  Rubin de Celis crater of the Campo del Cielo strewn field is a real crater > - 0.04 km dia with a raised rim. - see Passc Website. > > Ted Bunch > > > On 10/26/09 1:48 PM, "Jason Utas" wrote: >

[meteorite-list] Largest 'Fall' Meteorite

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Utas
Yo, Sikhote-Alin, the largest crater at 26m in diameter. Only two meteorites are ever known to have created real craters upon falling; Carancas and Sikhote-Alin. Carancas' crater measures in at 13m. I suppose falls like Gao could have been larger in mass than Caracas, but I don't know if we even ha

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Latvia, 20 meter crater

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Utas
Right - take a look at the ejecta blanket. With Carancas, large dirt clods were sent flying hundreds of feet from what I'd heard. This crater's rim looks downright tidy, and not a single piece of ejecta looks like it got more than five to ten feet from the edge of the crater. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009

[meteorite-list] Auctions Ending Tonight

2009-10-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Those auctions I listed a while back are ending - tonight! There are about five hours left at the moment on the following items: 1) A 2.06g Tamdakht fragment with a small patch of nicely textured fusion crust. This is the result of a larger stone's violent encounter with earth - not o

[meteorite-list] Carancas Weight Info - Help Needed

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I'm looking for information about Carancas - does anyone have any remotely detailed information about the size distribution of fragments found - or the weight of the largest specimen(s) recovered? Thanks, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.co

[meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule - with link to Art's original message

2009-10-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I'm not saying it's necessarily a good or bad thing, but - first-off, it seems like we should clear up some misconceptions. I just went through the list archives and turned this up: http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-November/028708.html There you have a copy of the

[meteorite-list] AD - 4 Auctions Ending in 7 Days

2009-10-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I have four auctions up and running now: 1) A 2.06g Tamdakht fragment with a small patch of nicely textured fusion crust. This is the result of a larger stone's violent encounter with earth - not overly impressive in itself, but when one thinks about what led to its formation - kind of

[meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule

2009-10-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, The rule was only good so long as dealers upheld it. It was originally put in place to limit Steve Arnold's (Chicago) postings, but it failed. Other dealers seemed happy enough to go along with it on their own out of, for lack of a better word, courtesy to other list members, who general

Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread Jason Utas
Yo, An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the increased metamorphism, highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or

Re: [meteorite-list] Flow lines on the INSIDE! Not.

2009-09-28 Thread Jason Utas
nd call it a 100% > crusted and oriented individual...:o} > > Guido > > -Original Message- >>From: Jason Utas >>Sent: Sep 28, 2009 4:45 AM >>To: Meteorite-list >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "flow lines" on weathered irons (was "ques

Re: [meteorite-list] "flow lines" on weathered irons (was "question on cleaning irons")

2009-09-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Piper, Of course - hence the differential weathering rates of Campos ("old" versus "new"), to name one of many examples. Perhaps the best example of such weathering can be seen on irons from Gibeon. I unfortunately don't have a copy of Buchwald here, but if anyone does have access to the sec

Re: [meteorite-list] question on cleaning irons

2009-09-27 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Guido, All, Regardless of how well you cleaned your Nantan, whatever you found under the surface was not flow lines. The material you removed from the surface of your iron was a good portion of the exterior of the meteorite itself; you were likely centimeters below the original surface of th

Re: [meteorite-list] Shivalingams impactites?

2009-09-21 Thread Jason Utas
banded claystones; that's why I said sedimentary, but I could well be wrong. Jason On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jerry Flaherty wrote: > Quartz ain't sedimentary > > -- > From: "Leigh Anne DelRay" >

Re: [meteorite-list] Shivalingams impactites?

2009-09-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mel, Shiva Lingams are ordinary stones that have been polished by people into their respective shapes to create the religiously symbolic stones that people so seem to like. They are generally made of ordinary rocks with nothing really special about them - unless you believe in their religiou

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
Good point; and seeing as such meteorites haven't been reclassified/re-typed, it seems as though this brings up a very valid flaw in the classification system of basaltic achondrites. Perhaps there are some scientists out there who can shed some light on why meteorites such as these are called Euc

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall-Non Vesta Eucrite

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
Well, oxygen isotopes are one thing, but orbital data would seem to be a strange way to classify a meteorite to me; given the past four and a half billion years of collisions, things have been far too 'messed up' in the inner solar system for that to mean much; we have comets present in stable orbi

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
And in case you didn't check the met-bull, the Bunburra Rockhole meteorite has been classified as a typical Eucrite. He stated that said meteorite is not from Vesta, but Eucrites are widely accepted to have come from Vesta. I suppose we don't have solid proof of that yet, but it is generally accept

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, Wha-la - Photos: http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/16856.php http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,26090814-2761,00.html And I think it might be interesting to note this article, where Dr. Philip Bland can be quoted as stating that Eucrites are not, in fact, from Vesta. Go f

Re: [meteorite-list] Largest known intact stone meteorite ?‏‏ (first post/testing)

2009-09-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Melanie, The few largest stony meteorites yet found are: 1) The Jilin meteorite from China. It weighs 1,770 kg. 2) Norton County, from New Mexico, USA, which weighs 1,073 kg. After these two, the list gets a little confused with large stones that were found fragmented, etc. I'd have added

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Postcards

2009-09-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, Well, I'd have to disagree. I wouldn't tell people to look for flecks of metal - small rounded bumps, maybe, but...it's very unusual to see metal on the broken surface of a chondrite. My only criticism would be that there is a small chance that the stone was carbonaceous or achondritic (incl

Re: [meteorite-list] Does this seem implausible to anyone else?

2009-09-09 Thread Jason Utas
Darren, All, Well, have a look at the region from google earth. There are quite literally hundreds (if not thousands) of elongate depressions that are quite easily visible from the air. I used to spend quite a bit of time looking for new craters on google earth, and the area really had me stumped

Re: [meteorite-list] RePallasites

2009-09-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Pete, I'm not as well-versed in the science of such things as many on the list, but I would point out that there are many multi-kg specimens of Brenham that are composed entirely of iron. Other good examples of similar features occurring in meteorites including, but not limited to, Seymchan,

Re: [meteorite-list] Aussie Photographs Meteor Through Telescope:NOT

2009-08-29 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, It's a nine-second exposure - why not a satellite? I don't know if a long-term exposure of a satellite would result in a "wiggly" line, but if it is as Elton says, possibly the result of the photographic equipment used - well, any thoughts? Regards, Jason On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:20 A

Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-25 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, I've seen a few examples, and one is viewable online (it's for sale, oddly enough) on Marcin's Gao page: http://www.gao-guenie.com/gao_oriented.htm If you scroll down a bit, it's on the right side - it's hard to miss the "HOLE" note in the photograph - click for better pics. It look

Re: [meteorite-list] On the other hand...

2009-08-25 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Eric, Rob, > Like I said it's endless... I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out if > we're really real or not, but that's not "really" what I care about. I care > about knowledge. That's what I seek in my never ending quest for > understanding. Pfft - it's just being able to stand back -

Re: [meteorite-list] Elliott Collection Sale Results

2009-08-18 Thread Jason Utas
What might be interesting to note is the error on the auctioneer's website. The auction started at 1pm GMT, not the advertised 2pm GMT. Time in the UK isn't on GMT, because of daylight savings, and the auction thus started an hour earlier than was advertised online. Seems to me that Rob might have

[meteorite-list] Ebay Listings Ending Tomorrow - AD

2009-08-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I've a few ebay auctions ending tomorrow evening (pacific time - they end about a day from now) - a lowish number NWA main mass, and a slice of a pretty LL5, both at a few dollars, with no reserve. http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/the_meteorite_hunter_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ Th

Re: [meteorite-list] Kem-Kem was never the generic for NWA

2009-08-09 Thread Jason Utas
Dirk, Brian, All, This came up on the list a while back; from what I understood, Casper sold those as well as a number of other stones under that name around that time, and only classified one stone, before grouping a number of similar-looking meteorites together under that name (I believe the ment

Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came acrosson ebay

2009-08-04 Thread Jason Utas
And it looks like some of those brown "crossed lines" on the ebay sample. > > So what should I do - inform the ebay seller that he has a sick patient on > his hands that he is trying to unload?  :) > > Thanks again. > > Mark Grossman > > - Original Message - Fro

Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came across on ebay

2009-08-04 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mark, All, Those squiggly lines are what Nininger coined "lawrencite," a corrosive "disease" that occurs primarily in the presence of terrestrial salts. While the term is fairly well-recognized, it generally applies to meteorites which experience accelerated oxidation even years after having

Re: [meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2

2009-07-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hello McCartney, All, I would agree with John Kashuba's suggest that what you are seeing is an effect of airflow on the trailing edge of an oriented stone. I have seen examples of similar features on several stony meteorites, including NWA 869, Chergach, Amgala, and most clearly on an unnamed NWA

Re: [meteorite-list] WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Paul Martyn, What's up your bum, eh? Jason On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > Once lived an old boor named Jason, > Excelling  in conflict, he'd hasten, > With his butt-buddy Steve, > And no good up his  sleeve, > His virtue spilled down the lu basin. > > The Devil made me do it.  ;-)

Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list]<--NOT WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
t; Jason, > Sounds to me that you've taken several semesters of BLATHERING at Berkley. > > John Gwilliam...a man of few words > > At 01:04 PM 7/23/2009, Jason Utas wrote: >> >> Elton, >> >> > Jason wrote: "Posting messages that were intended to be kept p

Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list]<--NOT WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
on. > I guess my point off list here is that knocking a farmer is more acceptable > here because everybody knows he is a loaded canon and they know about Steve > But please go easy on Elton here. We need to keep all of the brainiacs here > including you. Thanks Carl > Again just my 2 cents

Re: [meteorite-list] WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
Phil, > Nothing personal, if just sounds like you have a boner for Steve and Tom, > maybe you 3 could just get a room and save us the details of your lovers > spat. Nothing personal? Idiot. > Oh and in my spare time from my 2 jobs and raising 2 children under the age > of 5,  I write meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
Hey Phil, See my response to Elton. Your response amounts to trolling even more than his. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) You're right, and I do have a job. I'm currently taking summer classes and working Mon-Fri at the Space Sciences Lab as a lab assistant. It's not much - just

Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list]<--NOT WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
Elton, > Jason wrote: "Posting messages that were intended to be kept private to the > list is wrong - unless they are necessary in proving a situation such as a > deal gone wrong, or cheating having taken place," > > So Jason which of your listed situations applies to what you've just done? Yo

Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list] WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-23 Thread Jason Utas
he subject if only to put me down and thus feel better about your own psyche. I *enabled* you to do that. Go figure. *A nice aspect of this psychological analysis is that I know that if you do respond, you'll be getting great emotional satisfaction from putting me down, and that alone. An

Re: [meteorite-list] WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING

2009-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
Tom, What is said in private for a reason is generally meant to remain there. You attacked Steve publicly using the list, and he shot back - in private. At least he had the decency to keep private messages where they belong. Tom...you've just proved yourself worse than he is. Regardless of how h

[meteorite-list] - AD - Beautiful split NWA meteorite (classified, numbered) closing tonight

2009-07-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, My first-ever ebay auction closes tonight shortly before 1am - here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=230353073435 There's only the one auction up at the moment, but I'll have some new ones up and running sometime in the next few d

[meteorite-list] AD: First Ebay Auction - NWA 1956 H5 Split Individual

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Utas
27;d appreciate any interest in the form of a bid or two ;) Have a look! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230353073435 Thanks, Jason Utas __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on an oddball meteorite I cut open

2009-06-30 Thread Jason Utas
gt; I've seen and cut some chondrites with dual lithologies > but if I cut those stones in half down the separation line of the mineral > types, how would you know what type it is? It would be the type you were left with, because that would be the composition of the meteorite that was be

Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on an oddball meteorite I cut open

2009-06-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, Check out the last picture - there's a white chondrule clearly visible in the upper right/center of the photo. Also note the dark chondrule (large, but fuzzy) at the bottom edge of the slice, a tad to the left of center. I'd go with LL6; it has a few chondrules, and from what I understand, th

[meteorite-list] Fwd: LDG Sclieren spelling

2009-06-10 Thread Jason Utas
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Utas Date: Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] LDG Sclieren spelling To: Michael Blood Hello Michael, That term applies to the "flow-lines" in all tektite material in general: http://www.sciencedirect.com/s

[meteorite-list] AD - 11.5g Esquel Slice

2009-06-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I have an 11.5g square-cut Esquel part-slice for sale or trade. It's an older, slightly thicker slice so the olivine actually looks bright green, rather unlike the thinner slices that have been on the market more recently which have better surface area but much less colour. From what I

[meteorite-list] Wanted - Ash Creek/West Newspaper(s)

2009-06-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Having arrived a little late on the scene, we were too late to purchase the West newspapers that mentioned the fall - does anyone on the list still have any extras they might be willing to sell? Thanks, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] A question????? -an answer!!!

2009-06-04 Thread Jason Utas
Of course, if anyone here is familiar with Tintin (in particular, "Tintin and The Shooting Star"), one knows that the elements in at least some meteorites can create such beasts... http://farm1.static.flickr.com/3/4224425_e9c3ce4f4e.jpg On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Mexicodoug wrote: > Pete wr

Re: [meteorite-list] Dealers, Sellers: Please INSURE your shipments

2009-06-03 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, Indeed, our package from Argentina was opened as well; though nothing went missing, the box's integrity was compromised, as there was no tape holding the bottom flap closed - it had all been cut, and looked as though it might well have been opened. It wasn't a basic box with two sets of

[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee - Info Wanted

2009-05-29 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, I've been looking at planning a trip to Buzzard Coulee in the near future. Is there anyone who has been to the area who could help with contact information for locals, potential problems (I know the export laws), strewn-field data, things like that? I'd be going without my father, so I'

[meteorite-list] Contact for Terry Boswell Needed - Again

2009-05-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I'm sorry to have to ask this again, but I'm still in need of contact information for Terry Boswell. If anyone has his cell number, I'd be much obliged; his home line hasn't been picked up for quite a while, so I'm assuming he's out and about on business. Thanks, Jason __

Re: [meteorite-list] Zacatecas 1792

2009-05-18 Thread Jason Utas
Well that looks practically nothing like the piece on ebay, even given the fact that the scale is clearly far larger in that image. The brain-like schreibersite in the ebay auction is a fairly uncommon occurrence in irons, and I see no similar inclusions in that large section. Also, the pattern i

Re: [meteorite-list] Zacatecas (1792) on ebay

2009-05-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mirko, Without ever having seen a piece of Zacatecas 1792, I would side with you; the piece of Zacatecas listed on the website does look exactly like the 1969 mass. That said, the picture that I posted of the whole mass: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zacatecas_(1792)_meteorite.jpg

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

2009-05-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Greg, So you call them greedy because they call you stingy...seems like we have dealers calling thrifty collectors like you and me "Tight Asses" and, well, you're doing better by criticizing them for asking for higher prices, but you're pretty much doing the same thing to them, notably without

Re: [meteorite-list] Zacatecas (1792) on ebay

2009-05-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike, http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/test/Zacatecas1792_don_edwards.jpg Clearly recrystallized, the piece on Don's site looks like a slice of the 1969 individual. The trouble is that if that really is a piece of the 1792 fragment, then the one on ebay isn't a piece of either iro

Re: [meteorite-list] Zacatecas (1792) on ebay

2009-05-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike, Indeed, that's not a piece of the more common Zacatecas (1969). See here; that iron is clearly recrystallized: http://www.nyrockman.com/museum/zacatecas-1462.htm While I haven't been able to find a picture of the etch of the Zacatecas (1792) iron, I was able to find this picture of th

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

2009-05-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Greg, Interesting point, but kind of moot; while you are correct in stating that Adam is assuming relatively little financial risk in listing items with starting bids of $0.99, if you have problems with the prices they're fetching, the people you should be complaining to are collectors, not hi

Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone remember this?

2009-05-08 Thread Jason Utas
Right, but one has to understand that experts are trained to deal with thin sections and polarizing microscopes. What we do as hunters, dealers, and collectors is a much more laid-back, truly unscientific way of dealing with space rocks. Of course, that's not to say that we're not right most of th

[meteorite-list] Ash Creek (West) hunting photos up

2009-04-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, Well, contrary to what some were saying, and thanks to help from a few list-members, we managed to come home with a few stones from the recent fall. I know it's taken me about a month to get the pictures up, but I've been busy with a number of things up here at school. Here's the link -

Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston mystery rock might be from space

2009-04-22 Thread Jason Utas
Glassy surface, large vesicles...it's not a meteorite, and it looks like textbook slag. http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/meteorwrongs/m218.htm Jason On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Mike Groetz wrote: > > http://www.mercedsunstar.com/livingston/story/804260.html > > Livingston mystery rock migh

[meteorite-list] How about a thread to discuss hunting ethics - west

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
Steve, > Remind us all what weights you found and how much the trip  cost you and your > dad, and the cost of the time your dad had to invest in lost  Medical Doctor > wages to find what you guys found?  OK, leave out of the  formula what your > dad's time is worth, that is none of our business.  

Re: [meteorite-list] How about a thread to discuss hunting ethics - west

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
George, All, I agree - it sounds good (something *is* better than nothing), but the trouble is that we simply ran into a brick wall with many of them. We'd call and they'd just say 'not interested' and hang up. Or tell us that it was private property and to shove off. Admittedly, we only had the l

Re: [meteorite-list] How about a thread to discuss hunting ethics - west

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Adam, All, But that was the problem with West. The atmosphere was positively toxic when we went because farmers and landowners who had been paid $1/g for their stones saw them going on ebay a few days later for $100/g. There was a great deal of land that hadn't been searched and hadn't been p

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve of Chicago final message

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, A very dignified and respectful message from the very person who made it his mission to persecute the 'gentle giant' himself. I would like to point out the past. Elton's comments about Steve have ranged from the recent: "Do you get a cut in your unemployment check so now it is only $35 a

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold ofChicago...wasnwa 1794

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
>>>> not more. His posts do break the suggested limit for posts in a given >>>>>>>> time period, but they are always in good spirit, never derogatory, and >>>>>>>> are generally meteorite-related. Get off your high-horses and accept

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold ofChicago...wasnwa 1794

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
o >>>>>> change that. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're the one with the ability to change, to take the higher road. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, >>>>>> I know, but I think it's obvious enough, almo

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold ofChicago...wasnwa 1794

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
eir own actions. >>>> And at some point, I would think it prudent for certain people to >>>> realize that the effort they take to spearhead this effort against him >>>> is really done for the sake of hundreds of people who couldn't care >>>> less. And the

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold ofChicago...wasnwa 1794

2009-04-01 Thread Jason Utas
n the past, considerably worse >> than what he seems capable of doing. >> >> Jason >> >> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Mark Grossman wrote: >>> Without taking any sides pro or con re the particulars of Steve's actions: >>> >>>> The

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold ofChicago...wasnwa 1794

2009-04-01 Thread Jason Utas
t; What a sad state of affairs Jason has described regarding the status of the > biggest meteorite list in the world - no matter which side of the fence you > are on. > > Mark Grossman > > - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" > To: "Meteorite-list&qu

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold of Chicago...wasnwa 1794

2009-04-01 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, I would again like to point out that, even though his posts may be repetitive and annoying to some - maybe even most - of the list-members who have yet to block him (you might give it a try if you're so annoyed), well, the simple fact of the matter is that a single one of his posts just elici

Re: [meteorite-list] Silver stuff on the West?

2009-03-23 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, The same silvery features are visible on many of the 'Berduc' stones (and on many other falls); I believe that they are the result of the melting of troilite present in the meteorite. This would create iron sulfide, albeit iron sulfide that looks rather different from the unaltered mate

[meteorite-list] West - Hunting Info Needed

2009-03-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, We're planning on heading over to Texas in the next few days to have a look around - if anyone could supply some information on welcoming landholders or where exactly to hunt, it would be much appreciated. Any strewn-field information in general would be nice, as it would save us at leas

Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientifically important meteorites?

2009-02-14 Thread Jason Utas
mportance it >>> had! >>> Would we have a Hubble Space telescope now, without that use of the lousy >>> lense 400 years ago? (Although maybe Galileo's or Copernicus' role is >>> maybe >>> sometimes somewhat overrated, media stars... Copernicus' sys

Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientifically important meteorites?

2009-02-14 Thread Jason Utas
felt. >> >> But in general L'Aigle was the proof. >> Scientifically important, because with that fall, the concept of meteorites >> had to be accepted and the branch of this science was born at all. >> >> So it's my number one - only in my personal opinion of

Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientifically importantmeteorites?

2009-02-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Martin, I would have to disagree - when you go that far back, you wind up dealing with meteorites that are of historic, rather than scientific interest. L'Aigle may be something of an exception because it did lead to the *scientific* acceptance of meteorites, but, from today's scientific pers

Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientifically important meteorites?

2009-02-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Graham, The list would probably include primitive stones such as Ivuna, Orgueil, Murchison, Tagish Lake, and Allende, as well as ordinary chondrites like Semarkona, etc. - and don't forget Krymka. They all contain information about the earliest days of the solar system - they're some of the o

Re: [meteorite-list] L LL or what?

2009-02-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Eric, Looks like a very interesting stone - I would guess along your lines - L or LL6...as to which one, it's ahrd to say, though, as there aren't enough chondrules to judge (based on average size, etc). Regards, Jason On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Sorry, y

Re: [meteorite-list] Good By Bush - the nightmare is over

2009-01-21 Thread Jason Utas
Actually, Mark (Bowling), you're entirely missing *my* point. I'm not saying that they (viz. the Obama supporters) are right in posting their views. But they're not doing it and then telling the Bush supporters to shut up. The Bush supporters are the ones bashing on people for their views and the

Re: [meteorite-list] Good By Bush - the nightmare is over

2009-01-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, I think the point of the pro-Obama's is that the (supposedly quiet/innocent) Bush supporters in this case are simply being hypocrites. They're telling people to stop posting their opinions and then including little pro-Bush bits in their messages. In almost every post, that's been the

Re: [meteorite-list] Curious stones?

2009-01-07 Thread Jason Utas
Eric, Dan, They look natural to me, but, at least the two that you have cut, don't look like meteorites. Note the cavity in the middle of each - they look much more like terrestrial concretions. That said, some of your specimens do look like the weathered pallasite coming out of Morocco - NWA 448

Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository (was Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records)

2008-12-26 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Bob, Michael, I would go for either flickr.com (free account gives you 200 fairly high-res pictures - per account, and unlimited photos of even higher resolution if you pay), or the encyclopedia of meteorites site, run by our list's own Pierre-Marie Pele. Have a look: http://encyclopedia-of-m

[meteorite-list] Contact Information - Michel Franco?

2008-12-11 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I've been trying to contact Michel Franco, but have been unable to reach him at the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - All emails have been returned to me. Does anyone else know how to contact him? Thanks, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecen

Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Results

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
ile High Meteorites > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > P.O. Box 151293 > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > > -Original Message- > From: "Jason Utas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:17:18 > To: Meteorite-list > Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Resul

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
e not hurt by a shake-out of the outliers---those mega-low and > mega-high anomalies--I actually believe we would all ultimately benefit. > > > Sincerely / Darryl > > > > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Jason Utas wrote: > >> Darryl, Darren, All, >> >> Y

[meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Results

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I read through the legal print in the front of the catalog, and it looks like it's ok to post the results publicly. 1086 - 315g Gibeon Sphere - $475 1087 - 140g Gibeon Egg - $190 1088 - 490g Gibeon Slice - $375 1089 - 321g Gibeon Slice - Pass 1090 - 2 Gibeon Slices (281 + 262g) - $325 1

Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
...And what's that supposed to mean? On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geez Jason, > > You must be on restriction or something! > > Sonny > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > T

Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You left when you knew meteorites had been found

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
rketplace. > > I take a longer view of such anomalies. Just because I was offered Chergach > at $0.50/g doesn't mean that it's responsible for me to widely offer it for > $1.50/g even though it represents a 200% profit to me. Whether we can > quantify the effect or not, beyond

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
ed about. > > Everything else being the same, no witnessed fall should ever sell for a > couple of bucks a gram, and we should all strive to make certain this > doesn't occur. > > All best / d > > > = > > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 3:34 AM, J

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Jeff, All, The comparison to Carancas was provided as a contrast simply because it is such an unusual and different meteorite, and yet the asking price for these new Canadian stones is roughly what Carancas is going for right now. It's a large, ordinary, equilibrated chondrite fall, the lik

[meteorite-list] Researchers find ancient meteorite dust

2008-11-23 Thread Jason Utas
http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/21045.html Researchers find ancient meteorite dust PISA, Italy, Nov. 18 (UPI) -- Italian explorers and geologists in the Antarctic report finding the world's largest and oldest cache of meteorite particles. Some 1.35 million bits of space dust were found while

[meteorite-list] Opal miner stumbles on mega meteorite crater - With Picture

2008-11-23 Thread Jason Utas
http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/opal-miner-stumbles-on-mega-meteorite-crater/2008/11/22/1226770814042.html A RETIRED geologist searching on Google Earth for a place to mine opals may have discovered something much bigger: a meteorite crater in outback NSW. Mike Fry was using the

Re: [meteorite-list] So any definitive word on Rocks From Space POD and Micha...

2008-11-10 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, I spoke with him a few days ago, and he said he was hoping to get the website back up soon. As to why he's disappeared so completely from the list, I can't say, but he's alive and well out there, so I wouldn't worry too much. Regards, Jason On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual new lunar or hokum?

2008-11-03 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, This fellow's been selling complete crap for the past year or so. Terrestrial slag as a new "plessitic octahedrite," Campo del Cielo's as Canyon Diablo's (a difference of $200-250/kg in value), and bits of terrestrial metamorphic/igneous crap (see the link) as lunar material. He's repeatedly

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) 8 UNCLASSIFIEDS AND GLORIETTA FORSALE

2008-10-27 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Steve, When you bought those Glorietta's, they were Taza, if I'm not mistaken. At least, the photo on your micro/macro page two that lists the 12 irons as Glorietta matches the photo from this auction... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170268341811

Re: [meteorite-list] 20 lb piece of steel falls from sky

2008-10-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike, All, Not a meteorite... http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/10/steel_object_that_smashed_car.html I anticipate less debate than there was with the last few fallen pieces of iron Regards, Jason On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Michael Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do we

Re: [meteorite-list] South Pole Meteorite????????????

2008-10-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Darren, All, The story may be crazy, but that meteorite shows weathering exemplary of Antarctic meteorites. Note the thin cracks - almost certainly lined with evaporites, hence the white lining. Also note the fresh exterior and weathered interior. Bassikounou? Nothing like it. More like A

[meteorite-list] Ziz Meteorite Photographs - Link

2008-09-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, In light of the new iron being found, and it's supposed similarity to Ziz, I've taken the liberty of shooting some of the Ziz irons. All of the photos are available in large sizes, with the best resolution I could give. They're available at the following link: http://www.flickr.com/ph

Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Peter's Stunning New Euc rite NWA 5230 paired with the Hupés' NWA 4883

2008-08-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Mike, All, >As for the logic, I've never heard anyone say that finding a carbonaceous >clast in an L class meteorite means that the the two parent bodies are >related. It just means that at some point a fragment of one parent body >collided with another. If such clasts were common, then

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