Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite crashes near Alice Springs

2008-10-18 Thread lebofsky
Hello Mike: Sorry, it is 6:00 am and I have not had my coffee yet. I read the original article and I assume that they meant thud, not thurd (could not find that word). However, I am assuming they did not mean, as you wrote, turd. This seems to relate more to ice meteorites and flying cows (if

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: INTERSTELLAR DIPLOMACY and Hello

2008-10-10 Thread lebofsky
Hi all: The mass of Gliese 581c was determined by its gravitational pull on its star. This was how it was detected. So, the mass is known. The next thing to do is to guess its composition. If it is made of Earth-like rock, then its radius is the cube root of the mass (mass goes as radius cubed),

Re: [meteorite-list] A point of contention/question

2008-10-09 Thread lebofsky
Hello Pete: Yes, the Earth shoulc look like Mars or Mercury (or the Moon for that matter). However, you are on the right track. I am sure that Sterling will respond with more detailed comments, but here are a few of the things that affect what we see: 1. Atmosphere: as in the case of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Stunning shot of mercury

2008-10-08 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling and others: 1. There should be more stuff hitting Mercury and at higher velocities than the Moon. This should lead to more craters and more craters with rays. 2. This should also increase the weathering do to micrometeorite impacts, overturning of the regolith, and higher solar flux.

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Bolide to enter over northern Sudan in lessthan 8 hours

2008-10-06 Thread lebofsky
Hi Mike: There is no way that you would have known that this was going to happen (unless you are good at reading tea leaves). If you look at the observations, the first observation was a little before midnight last night Tucson time. It turns out I was up there with a group of Girl Scout leaders

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Debate Planet Definition and Agree to Disagree

2008-09-20 Thread lebofsky
orbiting nearby, said Jack Lissauer, planetary scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California. We all have a conceptual image of a planet. Therefore, we need a term that encompasses all objects that orbit the Sun or other stars, said Larry Lebofsky, Senior Education

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet condrules

2008-09-19 Thread lebofsky
Hi all: In the most accepted models, the objects in the Oort Cloud did orginate much closer to the Sun (between Jupiter and Saturn?). However, as Jupiter migrated in and Saturn out things got thrown all over the place amd a lot of stuff ended up in the Oort Cloud. Larry On Thu, September 18,

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Fireball???

2008-08-24 Thread lebofsky
Missed it. :( Larry On Sun, August 24, 2008 4:25 am, Eric Wichman wrote: Hey, Anyone here anything on this yet? Did anyone see it? Streaking fireball a vivid spectacle in daytime sky! http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/254255 Eric www.meteoritewatch.com www.meteoritesusa.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Great Planet Debate

2008-08-17 Thread lebofsky
Hi Darren: Just got back from the meeting. Thanks for posting this. I did not know that they were going to put it on UTube. If part five does not show up on Monday, I will contact them to see what might have happened (this may have been put up by one of the press and not by the organizers). I

[meteorite-list] Great Planet Debate

2008-08-15 Thread lebofsky
Hi Everyone: Did anyone see The Great Planet Debate yesterday between Mark Sykes and Neil Tyson? If so, I would be interested in your reactions to it. I am here in Maryland at the conference (the debate was webcast and I have been told that it would be posted or maybe even on YouTube in a week or

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-08-11 Thread lebofsky
Hi Ruben: Do you have a copy? Can you write a very short (one or two paragraph) review. I am really trying to get as many of these as possible for the November issue (deadline end of this week). Thanks. Larry On Wed, July 23, 2008 12:43 pm, Ruben Garcia wrote: Hey Geoff, I want an

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-08-11 Thread lebofsky
). If you are willing to do one, but cannot do it until closer to the deadline, please let me know so I can add you to the list. Thanks in advance. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Editors, Meteorite magazine On Wed, July 23, 2008 12:43 pm, Ruben Garcia wrote: Hey Geoff, I want an autographed copy too

[meteorite-list] Great Planet Debate Conference

2008-08-03 Thread lebofsky
Dear Listserv: As a participant, I just received this email. The conference is not open to the general public, but if you are an educator, the last day is set aside for educators and scientists to discuss the subject. Of possible interest to you is the debate that is being webcast on August 14.

Re: [meteorite-list] ET phone Nome...

2008-08-02 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling: Short of there being images of a bug crossing in from of the lander, any observation is likely to be open to interpretation. Life has been detected twice on Mars, Viking and ALH84001. Knowing Peter Smith (I do not know the MECA team), I would assume that they would want to be a

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor or supernova tonight?

2008-07-31 Thread lebofsky
From Superior, Colorado, on Tuesday night (July 29) at 11:25:21, there was an Iridium flare 16 degrees above the horizon in the WSW. It was -4 (3 times brighter than Jupiter). If you were west of downtown) Superior, it would have been even brighter. Larry On Thu, July 31, 2008 9:34 am, Marco

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' - TwoThumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: As I mentioned previously, we are wanting to get a number of short reviews (one or two paragraphs) from those of you who have the Field Guide and have read it. This is a special book and Richard is a special person to all of us. And, he has been the author of Centerpiece for 10 years!

Re: [meteorite-list] Fourth Dwarf Planet Named Makemake

2008-07-21 Thread lebofsky
This is the first time, as far as I can tell, that an IAU press release actually says that plutoids are a subset of dwarf planets. If you ask the right people (and refer back to the original defining of dwarf planets), in the IAU resolution, it states that: An IAU process will be established to

[meteorite-list] Mars in 3D

2008-07-18 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: I do not think that I have seen this posted. Get out your 3D glasses for some neat views of the surface of Mars from the Phoenix lander. http://uanews.org/node/20619 Larry __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Parent Bodies

2008-07-18 Thread lebofsky
Hi Pete and Michael: The latest information that I am aware of is by Rivkin, et al. in Icarus in 2006. Ceres is a G-class asteroid (similar to the C-class, carbonaceous, asteroids, but with some differences in its visible spectrum and a little brighter). Rivkin's analysis (of 3-micron

Re: [meteorite-list] 3D Glasses

2008-07-18 Thread lebofsky
Hi Bernd: Yes this is where I get my 3D glasses as well as eclipse glasses and glass I you to show spectra to my entire class. Larry On Fri, July 18, 2008 8:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pete and List, Where do you find the 3D glasses? Here, for example: http://www.3dglasses.net/

Re: [meteorite-list] Mamemake mademade plutonpluton

2008-07-14 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: Good catch John. Yes, I think that are backwards. Phobos as in Phobia. Also, for those of you who come to the Tucson Gem show, I can give you the background of Neptune VII (a little above the Dwarf Planet link), the only stellar occultation discovery of a planetary satellite. Larry On

Re: [meteorite-list] Chunks of Ice ... Cometary?

2008-07-12 Thread lebofsky
Hello Bernd and Darren: Swindle and Campins also wrote an article on cometary meteorites in the May, 2006 issue of Meteorite magazine. Larry On Sat, July 12, 2008 11:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren wrote: Any numbers on how big the block would have to be? How small the surviving

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Cu meteorite

2008-07-12 Thread lebofsky
Hi again: I forgot the other article in the May, 2006 issue of Meteorite: Ice Meteorites by John Saul which lists 200 years of ice falling from the sky. I am assuming that the most of the early ones do not come from the leaking toilets of planes. My mind remains open on this. Larry On Sat,

Re: [meteorite-list] More golden showers

2008-07-08 Thread lebofsky
You forgot Texas Tea! Larry On Tue, July 8, 2008 8:11 am, Pete Shugar wrote: It seems the only thing not mentioned wassome hillbilly trying to shoot a possum, missinng and then up from the ground came bubbling crude, black gold, oil, that is. Taking a clue from Darren, I better hush

[meteorite-list] Articles for Meteorite magazine

2008-07-08 Thread lebofsky
if you are planning to write an article. If you have ideas for ones you are thinking of writing, please contact me and I will get right back to you. Larry Lebofsky Co-Editor, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' The Bible

2008-07-02 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: With so many of you in the process of getting and reading Field Guide, I would appreciate 1-paragraph comments that we might use in the November issue of Meteorite. I am hoping for a review or two of the Book, but it would be great to have a few other comments from others to go along with

Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska..

2008-06-30 Thread lebofsky
Hi Mark: Yes, but there are still a good number of far out theories around. I do a review of a book on the topic for the August issue of Meteorite. Meteorite Hunter by Roy Gallant gives a nice overview of the event. Larry On Mon, June 30, 2008 12:22 pm, Mark Ford wrote: Tunguska 100 years

Re: [meteorite-list] Paneth-meteorite kolloqium 29.-31 October 2008 inRies-crater

2008-06-25 Thread lebofsky
Hello Thomas: An article in Meteorite magazine sounds good to me. Does not need to be long or techncal. Larry PS Thomas, please let me know if you get this. Our University system is not allowing me to email to you for some reason. Jerry, can you forward this to Thomas, just in case? Thnx On

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' now Available

2008-06-24 Thread lebofsky
Pat: Great! Thanks Larry On Tue, June 24, 2008 10:36 am, Pat Brown wrote: I pre-ordered on May 26th and my Amazon account shows that the book shipped by 2nd day air (I have joined Amazon's Prime program that offers expedited order fulfillment and 2nd day air shipment on all orders for

Re: [meteorite-list] Sigh

2008-06-23 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: In mid-Auguest there will be a conference held in Maryland: The Great Planet Debate: Science as Process. I will be there and will be presenting as a scientist and science educator. I hope to write this up as an article for the November issue of Meteorite. Dispite the IAU, this is not a

Re: [meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the November issue ofMeteorite magazine

2008-06-23 Thread lebofsky
you soon. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Editors, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' now Available

2008-06-21 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: I am looking for one or two reviewers of this book. Any takers? Sorry that I cannot offer you a free copy, so limited to someone who is getting their copy in the near future (for the August deadline). Thanks Larry Lebofsky Co-Editor, Meteorite magazine On Sat, June 21, 2008 8:48 am

[meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the November issue of Meteorite magazine

2008-06-20 Thread lebofsky
and letters to the editors. Please consider writing an article. If you are not sure, contact us! We hope to hear from you soon. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Editors, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Phoenix Lander Bakes Sample, Arm Digs Deeper

2008-06-18 Thread lebofsky
Hello Sterling: I think that it was a software failure that doomed Mars Polar Lander: When the spacecraft sensed that the vehicle had landed, then the engines were to cut off. This was done by noting that the landing legs flexed (sprung back as a shock absorber) as the ship touched down.

Re: [meteorite-list] WG: NASA Phoenix Lander Bakes Sample, Arm Digs Deeper

2008-06-18 Thread lebofsky
Hello Martin: But there are several reasons for going there: 1. You actually know where the sample came from (not true for the meteorite). 2. To get a meteorite takes a little energy, so stuff happens to a Mars rock that does not happen to a pristine soil sample on Mars. 3. If you are looking

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Phoenix Lander Bakes Sample, Arm Digs Deeper

2008-06-18 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling: I think that the boing effect and the softward error may be one in the same. The software should have ignored the first bounce, a problem that arose because there was, as I understand it, no test of the integrated system (retrorockets and landing legs). Just found this site:

Re: [meteorite-list] mars ice cap pix

2008-06-17 Thread lebofsky
Try: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/ Larry L. On Tue, June 17, 2008 3:54 pm, mckinney trammell wrote: is there a link to pix taken from the recent landing on ice caps? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] And the winner is-- Plutoid!

2008-06-11 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: I will probably be going to the August meeting in Maryland, so it will be interesting to see how this new terminology goes over. So everything round and icy (maybe) is a Plutoid, which means Pluto-like. Since we don't know what Pluto is (at least what to define it as), this really makes

Re: [meteorite-list] And the winner is-- Plutoid!

2008-06-11 Thread lebofsky
Dear Darren: I am sorry that I have to disagree with what you depict in your photo. The Death Star did a pretty good job of clearing out its neighborhood either by blowing things up or drawing them in with a tractor beam! :o) Larry On Wed, June 11, 2008 2:21 pm, Darren Garrison wrote: On Wed,

Re: [meteorite-list] New meteorite fall in India, read it and enjoy

2008-05-27 Thread lebofsky
Hi Martin: Beat me by 3 minutes on the ID for the meteorite image that they show! Larry On Tue, May 27, 2008 12:53 pm, Dark Matter wrote: Sounds fishy to me. It's got some pretty serious heat capacity to require such cooling time at only 900g. Also, the site's picture of a meteorite is

Re: [meteorite-list] Newest shot from mars

2008-05-27 Thread lebofsky
Yes, that was the story line in one of the bad Mars SciFi movies (don't remember its name). Larry On Tue, May 27, 2008 8:22 pm, Michael Murray wrote: The digging is on hold. Waiting for underground line locates. : ) On May 27, 2008, at 8:42 PM, Darren Garrison wrote: Found on a web

Re: [meteorite-list] Observed lunar meteorite impacts hit 100

2008-05-23 Thread lebofsky
Hello Jerry: Good summary! There are actually other compositional (spectral) classes of asteroids, but you hit on the main ones. While most C-asteroids are wet, some appear to be dry (at least on their surfaces). Also, there are wet M-asteroids, which are clearly NOT metallic, but it is not yet

Re: [meteorite-list] Observed lunar meteorite impacts hit 100

2008-05-22 Thread lebofsky
Hi Mark: It comes down to location, location, location. Where did they from? Where did they end up after the the Solar System settled down? How did they get here? Add to this the fact that there are cometary asteroids, objects in the asteroid belt that seem to have cometary behavior. Yes, it is

Re: [meteorite-list] Observed lunar meteorite impacts hit 100

2008-05-21 Thread lebofsky
Hi Chris: If I remember correctly (probably an old estimate) about 10% of the NEOs are thought to have a cometary origin. Also, many asteroids do contain volatiles (20% or more by weight), just not as much as your typical comet. Larry On Wed, May 21, 2008 4:14 pm, Chris Peterson wrote: Hi

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Considers Manned Asteroid Mission

2008-05-16 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling: Do not mean to rock your boat, but how do you fire the piton? For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction (read that somewhere). Firing the piton would send you off into space, even if you were in orbit around the object. Larry On Fri, May 16, 2008 12:57 am, Sterling

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Considers Manned Asteroid Mission

2008-05-15 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling and others: Be careful how you set up your tent. If you assume similar densities (the density of the asteroid is probably less), both gravity and escape velocity go as 1/r (r=radius). Therefore with a mean Earth radius of 6365 km (6,635,000 m) and the radius of the asteroid of 20 m,

Re: [meteorite-list] Super Nova

2008-05-14 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: Thank you wikipedia. Below is a link to a list of supernova remnants. There are several younger supernovas, including the one seen by Tycho in 1572 (exploded 7500 years earlier than that). The 1054 supernova (crab nebula) was a little closer and the one in 185 was even closer (too young

Re: [meteorite-list] Solar System

2008-05-08 Thread lebofsky
Hi Pete: I always have problems with the multi-line links. :( Here is the orginal site: http://www.livephysics.com/simulations/astronomy/scale-of-the-solar-system.html And one that I found the goes an addition step:

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo, oops

2008-05-08 Thread lebofsky
Hi Pete: The problem with reading email at 4 in the morning. I misread your email and gave you star sizes. Sterling was more awake and sent you the links you were looking for. Yes, they are of fairly good resolution and can be made into lithos or even a little larger. Larry On Wed, May 7,

Re: [meteorite-list] Go for a comet ride!

2008-05-07 Thread lebofsky
Verne also brought a gold bolide out of Earth orbit to exploit its resources! The Chase of the Golden Meteor [The Hunt of the Meteor] Larry On Tue, May 6, 2008 9:06 pm, Darren Garrison wrote: Found this recently: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/temp/

Re: [meteorite-list] What a surprise! (not)

2008-05-02 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling: You forgot overnight mail; Pony Express. It took 11 days (Missouri to California) and initially cost $5.00 for 1/2 oz. Assuming beer was 2 bits (25 cents), that is a lot of beer! Larry On Thu, May 1, 2008 11:37 pm, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Postal Doug, Of course, the U.S. Mail

Re: [meteorite-list] Fictional book about meteorites

2008-04-30 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: Has anyone actually purchased the book? It is not clear from the emails that I have seen. If anyone has, would they be willing to write a review of it for Meteorite? Thanks. Larry On Tue, April 29, 2008 12:30 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, You won't like this answer, but the

Re: [meteorite-list] pronouncing 'Orgueil'

2008-04-30 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: I did put out a call for meteorite pronunciation in Meteorite. Suggested starting languages are: French German Italian Polish Portuguese Spanish Again, any takers? Zelimir: You seem to have, at some level, offered to do this. It does not need to be extensive. Even 5 or so should do

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation for Meteorite

2008-04-30 Thread lebofsky
Hi Zelimir: Thanks for responding and offering to do this. We are getting ready to go out for dinner, so let me get back to you on the color issue. It is somewhat complicated. Larry On Wed, April 30, 2008 2:56 pm, Zelimir Gabelica wrote: OK Larry, if you feel that this should at least be

Re: [meteorite-list] Pronouncing Willamette and other meteorite names

2008-04-23 Thread lebofsky
Doug: We gringos (those white guys who live on the streets with Spanish names here in Tucson) probably would get it correct (though you might need to warn us where the place is). Larry On Wed, April 23, 2008 1:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren G. wrote: MexicoDoug, try this little

Re: [meteorite-list] Pronouncing Willamette and other meteorite names

2008-04-23 Thread lebofsky
Hi all: Sounds like a new Meteorite magazine column to me! Could be done alphabetically or by country (would need volunteers from the countries involved [regional for USA?] or people who speak the language). Anyone want to volunteer to do it/oversee it? Start it off? Anyone, anyone? By the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership

2008-04-19 Thread lebofsky
Hi Mike: There are probably many members of the MetSoc on this listserv (I for one). Larry On Sat, April 19, 2008 9:01 am, Mike Miller wrote: Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership

2008-04-19 Thread lebofsky
Mike: As an editor and one who reviews articles for a number of journals, yes, it is not always possible to get journals out on time, especially, like MAPS where articles have to be reviewes (and re-reviewed) befor they are published. Larry Mike, did you do something bad? My server does not

[meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the August issue of Meteorite magazine

2008-04-19 Thread lebofsky
new (less than about 2 years old) book, think about writing a review article about it. Thank you for your continued support of YOUR magazine. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Editors, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Dinner report

2008-04-03 Thread lebofsky
Hello DOn and Michael: Sorry for the slow response to this, but we have been busy getting the last articles for May off to the publishers and starting to respond to all of you who emailed about the DVD. We ARE still looking for articles for the August issue! On that note. Michael: while I

[meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the August issue of Meteorite magazine

2008-03-25 Thread lebofsky
and interest in the DVD. I hope that you will soon receive your February issue of Meteorite in the mail and that you enjoy it. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Editors, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] A welcome to meteorite collecting tutorial

2008-03-05 Thread lebofsky
Hi Pete: As at least one other person has said, please be careful with the definition of bolide. The IAU does not recognize the term (they do not recognize terrestrial or gas giant or Jovian for planets either, but that is a part of another story). However, if you look at the Wikipedia

Re: [meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the May issue of Meteorite magazine

2008-02-14 Thread lebofsky
for the May issue (had promises from several people) and starting to think about the August issue. Deadline for May is February 28 and for the August issue it is May 19. Hope to hear from you with articles and ideas! Larry and Nancy Lebofsky __ http

[meteorite-list] Just a few more Tucson pictures

2008-02-10 Thread lebofsky
Sorry for not posting these sooner (or not taking more). Larry http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/P1010306.JPG http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/P1010308.JPG http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/P1010311.JPG http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/P1010312.JPG

Re: [meteorite-list] Why doesn't Mars look like Mars?

2008-02-10 Thread lebofsky
Ed: The surface rocks on Mars are weathered. Since much of the original iron did NOT go to the core of Mars, there is lots of iron in the surface rocks which have weathered, turning the iron to iron oxide -- rust. The rocks that make it to Earth from Mars are from below the surface, so have not

[meteorite-list] More Tucson Pictures

2008-02-06 Thread lebofsky
Here are some pictures from Monday and Tuesday. http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/Gemshow020401.JPG http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/Gemshow020402.JPG http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/Gemshow020403.JPG http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/Gemshow020404.JPG

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson update: more images

2008-02-03 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: Here are a few more images from Friday and Saturday. Which include Anne and Geoff setting up (sorry). http://nats102.arizona.edu/Gemshow/GemShow0202.mht Larry On Sat, February 2, 2008 8:42 pm, Bob Evans wrote: I know every one is busy enjoying the show, but, Im sure the rest of us

[meteorite-list] Tucson pictures

2008-02-03 Thread lebofsky
Hello list. Sme people have had problems opening my link. If you email me directly, I can send the images to you directly. Larry On Sun, February 3, 2008 10:33 am, Michael Gilmer wrote: Hi Larry and All! The following link in a previous list post is broken and 404.

Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury's crack habit

2008-01-31 Thread lebofsky
on the Moon forming from volcanic eruptions). Good work Sterling! Larry Lebofsky (with an f) PS Sterling: At 4:00 in the morning, had no clue what you meant about Sorry about the w message you sent me. Thought you might have said something about our persident! On Thu, January 31, 2008 1:42 am

Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury's crack habit

2008-01-31 Thread lebofsky
Hello Sterling: Take it one more step. Given the location of the crater within Caloris and given (at least it looks to me) that the channels seem to predate ANY of the other craters (the channels do not deform any craters, but seem to have been there when the craters were formed), how about

[meteorite-list] test, please ignor

2008-01-30 Thread lebofsky
This is a test Larry http://nats102.arizona.edu/gemshow/gemshow.mht __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions

2008-01-28 Thread lebofsky
and Nancy Lebofsky, who are on this list. Check online at: http://meteoritemag.uark.edu. This magazine provides a wide variety of information and updates on the latest in the meteorite world. Welcome. Dave --- Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone and List Members!, I

Re: [meteorite-list] Latest MESSENGER Images Show Fascinating Views of Mercur...

2008-01-22 Thread lebofsky
Tom: There will be an article by Melinda Hutson on this very subject (meteorite from Mercury) in either the February or May issue of Meteorite. Larry On Tue, January 22, 2008 4:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for the post. I had to remember to breath! Dr. Love had said there

Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First FlybyofMercury

2008-01-17 Thread lebofsky
Hi Again: A little bit more on space weathering (wish I had the time to read up on the latest or at least talk to friends who know more than me on the subject). Over long periods of time, when you remelt the material on a surface, you get very small particles with the iron dispersed within it

Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

2008-01-16 Thread lebofsky
Jerry: Yes, bright rays indicate younger craters. When the crater is created, some of the rock is shock melted, forming a glassy material that we see as the bright ray eminating from the impact site. Larry On Wed, January 16, 2008 7:55 pm, Jerry wrote: Do the bright rays indicate a more recent

[meteorite-list] [Fwd: [alllpl] MESSENGER Post Flyby Assessment]

2008-01-15 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: In case your are interested in images from MESSENGER, it appears that the lines are busy, so the spacecraft download is delayed a little. Larry Original Message Subject: [alllpl] MESSENGER Post Flyby Assessment From:Mary

Re: [meteorite-list] Hollywood's getting in on the act

2008-01-13 Thread lebofsky
Jerry: Interesting trailer that they have. Temples in 10,000 BC? I do, however, like how they take Earth at Night and take away the light pollution! Larry On Sat, January 12, 2008 7:24 pm, Jerry wrote: 10,000 BC opens 03/07/08 AD. Were any of you asked to consult? Jerry Flaherty

Re: [meteorite-list] 'The high-pitched scream'?

2008-01-12 Thread lebofsky
Hi all: I just saw a movie on TV the other night. I was at the American Astronomical Society meeting and could not sleep, turned on the TV and there was a movie about meteorites. In it, on a number of occations, you could hear the sound of the incoming meteorite before the hit the ground and

Re: [meteorite-list] Dumb question What about Kuiper object 2001 KX76?

2008-01-11 Thread lebofsky
Hello Michael: 28978 Ixion (2001 KX76) Larry On Fri, January 11, 2008 5:47 pm, Michael Murray wrote: Hi List, With reference to the Kokogiak.com solar system bodies picture that Pete posted back on the 9th, I don't see the Kuiper object 2001 KX76 supposedly to be 1200 to 1400 km diameter in

Re: [meteorite-list] When Worlds Collide: Have Astronomers Observed the Aftermath of a Distant Planetary Collision?

2008-01-10 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: Would a short article in Meteorite magazine on this subject be of interest to readers? If so, please let me know and I can contact the authors who I know and are here at the meeting I am at. There may be issues if this is going to be published elsewhere, but it can't hurt for me to ask.

Re: [meteorite-list] Solar System (A bit off topic)

2008-01-09 Thread lebofsky
Pete: Thanks for this. This is a great visual of objects in the Solar System! Larry On Wed, January 9, 2008 3:47 am, Pete Pete wrote: Good morning/evening, List, (depending what side of the planet you're on) Here's a decent solar system chart I came across, for anyone interested:

Re: [meteorite-list] Simple mapping software? (A little OT)

2008-01-09 Thread lebofsky
Hello Mark: Google Earth can mark the locations with pins, but not sure about coloring countries. Lasrry On Wed, January 9, 2008 10:09 am, Mark Crawford wrote: Hi folks, I'm looking for a (free, ideally) tool to let me map out my colleciton. The kind of thing I'm after is just something

[meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the May issue of Meteorite magazine

2008-01-05 Thread lebofsky
on February 8. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Co-Editors, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Goodbye 2007 - Hello 2008

2007-12-31 Thread lebofsky
Dear Listees: Happy New Year to all of you and we hope to see many of you in a month here in Tucson at the Gem and Mineral Show! Larry and Nancy Lebofsky On Mon, December 31, 2007 5:32 pm, Notkin wrote: Dear Listees, Friends, and Colleagues Around the World: My father just called from

Re: [meteorite-list] ARCTIC IRON, THEORIES, FACTS, AND MATHEMATICAL MODELS

2007-12-27 Thread lebofsky
Hello Sterling: We have a regular Asteroid Lunch here at U Arizona where we sometimes even talk about asteroids and meteorites! Last week, I happened to ask Jay Melosh (who I think originally wrote the LPL program) about the Canyon Diablo impactor (I am reviewing a book for Meteorite magazine).

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid may be set to slam Mars in Jan.

2007-12-21 Thread lebofsky
Hi Göran: It is all in the timing. If I remember correctly, when orbits are calculated, the greatest uncertainty is in the time of perihelion passage (where it is in its orbit). So, while they know the inclination of the orbit (where it will be when it crosses the orbit of Mars), the greatest

Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska-- the movie

2007-12-19 Thread lebofsky
Jerry: SL/9 WAS one object that got too close to Jupiter and was pulled apart by the gravity of Jupiter (probably at the same time it was being captured into an orbit around Jupiter). It also, unfortunately for it, went into an orbit that had perijove (closest point in orbit) INSIDE of Jupiter,

Re: [meteorite-list] Saturn's Rings May be Old Timers

2007-12-19 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: This idea is not new. Don Davis et al. published a similar model more than 20 years ago. It is also interesting how similar the artist concept of the rings in the article is to one done by Bill Hartmann something like 30 years ago. It would be nice if people gave credit where credit was

Re: [meteorite-list] near miss stuff

2007-12-19 Thread lebofsky
Hi Pete: One other possiblity: Capture! Think about SL/9. I suspect that for the Earth/Moon system, this is not a very likely situation. Jupiter is much larger (with greater gravity) and objects passing by Jupiter will be going much slower than they would pass by Earth. Larry On Wed, December

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew, just right

2007-12-18 Thread lebofsky
Hi all: I am not an expert in this subject, so maybe I should not say anything (but I will anyway). When something just misses the Earth, its orbit will get changed. I would assume similar to Apophis, in 2029, that there is a very small chance that a close approach would lead to an even closer

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-17 Thread lebofsky
Hi All: I was wanting to find REAL numbers, but may have to rely on memory: 1. The Moon stops very little of what might hit the Earth. The cross section of the Moon is pi x radius(Moon)**2. A sphere at the Moon's distance is 4 x pi x radius(orbit)**2. Since the distance from the Earth to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-17 Thread lebofsky
Hi Again: I found it! It (the impact cross section) is (I should have realized) incoming velocity dependent. For objects going at 50 km/s the cross sectional area of the Earth is increased by 5%. However, for something approaching at 25 km/s, this increases to 20%! For something going really

Re: [meteorite-list] Phoenix desert fireball

2007-12-17 Thread lebofsky
Wow, that is amazing. History repeating itself. I did a presentation on Thursday on the Geminid meteor shower and when looking up meteors found the following. It is a long link thanks to going to Google, so it might be easier to go to Googe videos, type in meteor shower and it is the first site

Re: [meteorite-list] Phoenix desert fireball: only 87 left!

2007-12-17 Thread lebofsky
Doug: Forgot something. If you watch the newscast, it states the following: A meteor is from an extinct constellation! I wonder which one is missing? Anne, have you ever thought about teaching the media in Denver what a meteor (and meteorite) is? Larry On Mon, December 17, 2007 12:06 pm,

Re: [meteorite-list] Phoenix desert fireball

2007-12-17 Thread lebofsky
Hi Andi: I agree. I sent two emails to the list some time ago and neither seems to have made it (did not like my Google links?). Actually filmed Jan. 4 in Denver. Larry On Mon, December 17, 2007 2:29 pm, Andreas Gren wrote: It looks more like space junk. Andi Hello List, Surprised

Re: [meteorite-list] BIG VENUS NEWS

2007-11-29 Thread lebofsky
and dinosaurs a billion yers ago and then wham, along came golbal resurfacing which boiled off the water and decomposed the carbonates! Speculatively, Larry Lebofsky On Thu, November 29, 2007 1:10 am, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Hi, List, ESA had a big (press) conference to release the first

Re: [meteorite-list] Chang's Moon

2007-11-26 Thread lebofsky
There is another version of the story (maybe somewhat rewritten) as a story within a story: The Moon Lady by Amy Tan. It is one of the books we (Nancy) uses in our teacher workshops. In it, it is a magic peach, not a magic pill. Larry On Mon, November 26, 2007 4:52 pm, Darren Garrison wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Cruelities

2007-11-19 Thread lebofsky
Hi Sterling: I agree with you completely about distinguishing between old vs. new meteorites from Namibia. I refer you to the excellent article by Ronnie Mckenzie in the August issue of Meteorite magazine where he addresses this particular issue. Larry Lebofsky On Mon, November 19, 2007 7:18

Re: [meteorite-list] Son of Rosetta?

2007-11-16 Thread lebofsky
Rob: I may try to contact the people who observed it and see what they think. This thing is smaller than Rosetta by a bunch (9 meters if 10% albedo). Larry On Fri, November 16, 2007 1:06 am, Rob Matson wrote: Hi Larry and List, Just when the asteroid Rosetta case of mistaken identity was

Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-13 Thread lebofsky
asteroid and shows how well they are covering the sky in order to locate any asteroids heading toward the Earth. However, Doug, Pluto and the IAU decision is another story that we should discuss over beers sometime. Larry Lebofsky On Mon, November 12, 2007 6:51 pm, mexicodoug wrote: Hi

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