Hi again Darren:
Mike Brown makes some interesting and valid points. Others have too. No system
is going to be perfect. We are dealing with Mother Nature and she has her own
rules.
However, I am confused by some of what he says. He says that he had nothing to
do with the writing of the
: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 'Plutons' Push Planet Total Up To 12
Hi, Ron and List
Just WHAT are those Scotsmen drinking?!!
The other plutons are Charon, currently described
as a moon of Pluto...
Please tell me the IAU is not going to name a
satellite
15, 2006 11:17 PM
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:04:18 -0500, you wrote:
Spoze he meant CHIRON?
Naming a drug company as a planet would be even more of a problem. What
would
be next, planet Eily Lilly?
On a more serious note
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August 15, 2006
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:04:18 -0500, you wrote:
Spoze he meant CHIRON
Hi Daren:
I am reading these backwards, so have waded through Sterling's comments.
Again, I was not on the committee, but have been (because of the Division for
Planetary Sciences Committee) briefed by Rick Binzel who was on the
committee and who we questioned.
Plutons: a class of planets.
List
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:58 AM
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The IAU proposal for 12 planets is as follows:
1. Ceres 'cause it's big and round and orbits the Sun,
2. 2003UB313 (Xena) 'cause it's big
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:54:54 -0600, you wrote:
need for a technical definition. The ordinary users of English (and
other languages) have long since decided what the planets are- and that
they don't include Ceres (with its own history), nor Charon, nor any big
iceballs floating around in
Darren:
We were getting ready to redo a kids video we did years ago and now we have to
add three new planets (one without a name yet).
Larry
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:41 AM
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You know, I've seen so many articles on this over the past few months
crying out
but what about the children!, about how children just LOVE calling
Pluto a
planet and how textbooks
Sterling,
In what order would you place the 12 planets? Would the order for Pluto
and Charon be based on which is usually closest to the Sun? If so, which
would be most often closest to the Sun? I'm having trouble picturing
this orbital dance in my head.
David
Hi Chris:
Since your two posts on this subjsetc, I think some of the responders have
gotten a little out of hand and think that they know more than everyone else.
1. This is the second committee to have dealt with the issue of determining a
definition of a planet.
2. A lot of the discussion
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:26:39 -0700, you wrote:
science. If you were teaching in 1930 would you have left the Solar System
with
8 planets? or in the early 1700s, kept the Solar System at 6 planets?
Traditionally, the Earth is the center of the universe, why not let well
enough
alone?
The
Sterling,
I have another scenario that will need an official decision someday if
discovered to occur. What if two spherical bodies rotate around a common
barycenter, but this barycenter is located outside of the more massive
orbital partner during half its revolution and inside during the
For my utterly uneducated OPINION, maybe we should look at the effect a
proposed planet has on the rest of the stellar system, via gravity. That
way, dim massive bodies don't get overlooked for bright tiny icy ones.
Rocks that are largely, well, rocks could be called asteroids, ones that
are
Hi Darren:
I promised myself to not be the one to send out a dozen emails on a subject,
but I seem to be breaking my own promise.
I do not have the information in front of me, but will attempt to contact the
person who knows the answer. (how big of an object can still be out there and
not
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:25:52 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Darren:
What happens when you find something that is say the size of the Moon or just
a
little smaller than Mercury at the outer edges of the Kuiper Belt. This is not
out of the question. What do you call it then? Just say too bad we have 9
] 'Plutons' Push Planet Total Up To 12
Sterling,
In what order would you place the 12 planets? Would the order for Pluto
and Charon be based on which is usually closest to the Sun? If so, which
would be most often closest to the Sun? I'm having trouble picturing
this orbital dance in my head
I predict the IAU will get some really nasty
letters from the
Luna City Chamber of Commerce, demanding the the
Earth-Moon
System be recognized as a DOUBLE PLANET, since it
meets
all the criteria applied to Pluto-Charon System.
What are the criteria applied to the Pluto/Charon
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Sterling,
In what order would you place the 12 planets? Would the order
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Loonie indeed.
It doesn't matter how they vote, the IAU simply doesn't have
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:24 PM
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Hi, Chris, List,
Actually, the IAU does have the authority, beyond the support of
every
That would make Caltech researcher Mike Brown, who found 2003 UB313, formally
the discoverer of the 12th planet. But he thinks it's a lousy idea.
It's flattering to be considered discoverer of the 12th planet, Brown said in
a telephone interview. He applauded the committee's efforts but said the
And his web site page on the issue:
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/whatsaplanet/
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Hi, Chris, List,
Actually, the IAU does have the authority, beyond the support of
every working scientist in the field. The IAU was founded in 1918/9 to
clear up a horrific mess of everybody naming the SAME Lunar
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There is nothing wrong
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You could also create your own star charts, give stars and constellations
their
own names, sell the names of stars
Yep. http://www.starregistry.com/
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Hi all -
Everybody loved Clyde, so they don't want to take the
honor of discovering a planet away from him. But for
the future, making him the discoverer of the first KBO
would not be that much of a demotion, and might be a
raise - that is the FIRST KBO.
Minor Planets are those located between
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Hi all -
Everybody loved Clyde, so they don't want to take the
honor of discovering a planet away from him. But for
the future, making him the discoverer
7:20 PM
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12--MikeBrown's view
Hi, Darren, List,
SIZE:
Two satellites, Ganymede (5262 km) and Titan (5150 km),
are bigger than the planet Mercury (4878 km). Seven satellites
are bigger than Pluto (2320 km): Callisto (4800 km
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:45:46 -0600
No, they don't have the authority to redefine words that are in common
usage and found
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http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1194292006
'Plutons' push planet total up to 12
JOHN VON RADOWITZ
The Scotsman
August 15, 2006
A NEW kind of planet, the pluton, could soon be taking its place in the
Solar System.
Astronomers have
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:04:18 -0500, you wrote:
Spoze he meant CHIRON?
Naming a drug company as a planet would be even more of a problem. What would
be next, planet Eily Lilly?
On a more serious note, the article mentions Ceres. I'm not clear on this, were
they saying that Ceres would be
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