: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
You have heard the saying give an inch and they will take a mile
Richard Norton tried to warn anybody who would listen a decade ago.
Meteorites
: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
You have heard the saying give an inch and they will take a mile
Richard Norton tried to warn anybody who would listen a decade ago.
Meteorites are no more antiques than the rocks in my back yard
.
Freedom isn't for free,
Adam
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From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:34 PM
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Hello All,
I'd like to point out
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of jason utas
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:25 AM
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Hello Jodie,
You're nit-picking terminology more than
3, 2012 12:38 AM
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Hello Adam, All,
You're insinuating a heck of a lot with phrases like Twisting laws to
fit a bureaucrat's immediate needs is not the proper way to go about
it and is unconstitutional.
I've already clearly explained
2, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Hi Fred,
Artifact would imply that your legislative authorities do believe in
the existence of highly developed aliens somewhere between Mars and
Jupiter.
Maybe we can
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
I have never sold a single piece I have found on federal land and this
is not what it is about for me. I do
already doing so.
Jason
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
I have never sold a single piece I have found on federal land
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 16:07
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Adam...with all due respect...
You can't substantiate a single thing you say, but insist that I'm the
gullible one. I just told you how a system like that might operate based
off
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Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 7:07 AM
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Adam...with all due respect...
You can't substantiate a single
From: Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D. nick.gess...@duke.edu
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Regarding the BLM's policy on Collection of Meteorites on Public Land
posted
Yep, were hard times then,
so they were for meteorite hunters.
Here Mike you see Tashtego, Starbuck, Captain Ahab and Ishmael hunting the
White meteorite.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/995914327_613befae01.jpg
Watch out, what will happen!
Here, Rob L. found that horrible testimony... be
2012 11:18:26 -0500
From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Every inch of BLM land and all of America was stolen from native
American Indians - the true owners
already doing so.
Jason
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
I have never sold a single piece I have found on federal land and this
is not what
This Meteorite List is turning into a Politics List! lol I can understand
both sides of the debate, and as a small time private hunter, sure I would like
for the BLM to explicitly grant me broad, unrestricted permission to hunt
meteorites to my heart's content on public land. But is that
Hi Doug and Numerous Listers,
I apologize for my little Indian rant earlier. It's obvious that this
issue is not only controversial, but it also touches upon issues of
politics and culture. There is a lot at stake here, and the issue
merits attention. But, we must be smart about it. Tempers
Hi Michael and all,
I have opinions about these things and in the next METEORITE MARKET
TRENDS in the January issue of METEORITE TIMES I will address them.
In the mean time, folks, the louder we yell about this the more
likely we are to create resistance to impacting this situation
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Hi Michael and all,
I have opinions about these things and in the next METEORITE MARKET
TRENDS in the January issue of METEORITE TIMES I will address them.
In the mean time, folks, the louder we yell about
Regarding the BLM's policy on Collection of Meteorites on Public Land posted
at:
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html
I have written three emails of complaint to Lucia Kuizon, National
Paleontologist and
. nick.gess...@duke.edu
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Regarding the BLM's policy on Collection of Meteorites on Public Land posted
at:
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info
Here 'tis
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PSB..375S
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From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 11:00 AM
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Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Regarding the BLM's policy on Collection of Meteorites on Public Land
posted at:
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations
on it. HUGE thanks to Nick for taking the
initiative.
-Richard Montgomery
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From: Jim Strope fa...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:46 AM
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You
.
Happy Hunting,
Adm
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From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net
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meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:20 AM
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avocation.
Happy Hunting,
Adam
From: Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D. nick.gess...@duke.edu
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Regarding
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
My two cents on part of this topic:
I think part of the problem we're having is that there is not enough
clout or lobby for our hobby/industry. The BLM can easily ignore
various individual emails/demands but it's
: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Wichtigkeit: Hoch
From my perspective, I think we ought not to go off half-cocked.
Apparently, that is what the BLM has done, and it has gotten no one
anywhere.
But note what Schmitt has written on page B6, paragraph 3:
Most Western European countries
Btw. by far the best of the coolest meteorite laws I found in Swaziland!
Wait
it's only a little bit complicate, but let me give you a summary:
- Collecting of meteorites in National Parks is forbidden.
- The removing and exportation of a meteorite needs the permission of the
National Trust
TV entertainers and press-chasers have publicly turned looking for meteorites
into a treasure hunt complete with grossly inflated price-tags to attract
viewership. This is the same tired but effective method that the lame Antique
Roadshow has used for over a decade. Perhaps these entertainers
. Dezember 2012 22:46
An: Adam
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TV entertainers and press-chasers have publicly turned looking for
meteorites into a treasure hunt complete with grossly inflated price-tags to
attract viewership. This is the same tired but effective method
to the owner of the surface
estate.
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From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 2:23 PM
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I think, you're beating the wrong ones
Auftrag von Adam
Hupe
Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2012 23:40
An: Adam
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Martin,
I don't see how I can be wrong when I am basically quoting what was stated
the Meteorite Recovery Act. I avoid the press and have turned down more
, 2. Dezember 2012 22:46
An: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
TV entertainers and press-chasers have publicly turned looking for
meteorites into a treasure hunt complete with grossly inflated price-tags
to
attract viewership. This is the same tired
Nachricht-
Von: h...@meteorhall.com [mailto:h...@meteorhall.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 00:32
An: Martin Altmann
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Martin, is coffee a total cost of $7 per pound or are the taxes $7
I think if we work together we can make some changes:
I just wrote to the editor of MAPS suggesting that it was time for a rejoinder
to Schmitt's article.
I also suggested that I will put my 18 students on the task of data-mining the
Meteoritical Data
Base for information on who found what, who
Martin Wrote:
(uh just read a while ago on web, that Botswana claims to have their
cultural heritage back, the biggest lunar Kalahai 009 and asked the
university muenster for it).
Good, maybe they can provide us with an accurate weight and dimensions instead
of rounding it off and hiding it
Dear Nicholas,
Please allow me to whole heartedly congratulate you on channeling
Your energy in a manor that is most likely to produce a positive outcome!
As the Brits would say, Brilliant!
Michael
On 12/2/12 7:08 AM, Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D. nick.gess...@duke.edu wrote:
Perhaps we should all stop collecting selling meteorites. Also, stop
giving to, selling or trading with institutions.
All of these things bring attention to meteorites and the fact
They are collected and valued by a very small few.
Michael
On 12/2/12 2:40 PM, Adam Hupe
eyeballed. The media hype
is an ongoing mistake.
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:07:56 -0800
From: mlbl...@cox.net
To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Perhaps we should
...@yahoo.com; Meteorite List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:07 PM
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Perhaps we should all stop collecting selling meteorites. Also, stop
giving to, selling or trading with institutions.
All
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I think, you're beating the wrong ones.
These, you're thinking to be responsible due to their media presence are not
so mighty, to create new laws and regulations.
Btw. look it up in old magazines, even Saint Nininger was posing with
meteorites in the press
Nick I'm with you, I think if we can get the FACTS out together we can make a
change. All the finger pointing is pointless to point of making things worse.
Wow a lot of points there. Most all activity is in some way regulated on fed
land and we were lucky enough to skirt regulation so long so I
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Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Perhaps we should all stop collecting selling meteorites. Also, stop
giving to, selling or trading with institutions.
All of these things bring
reaching
government.
Greg L.
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:00:05 -0800
From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
It is interesting that the BLM has pulled the Antiquities Act out of a hat
: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
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Hi Fred,
Artifact would imply that your legislative authorities do believe in the
existence of highly developed aliens somewhere between Mars and Jupiter.
Maybe we can make here on the list a little
-
From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Hello All,
I'd like to point out a few things:
As an active meteorite hunter/collector, the proposed
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