High-grade, profound discussion apart from certain personal disagreements.
There surely is more to it than what just meets the eye, regarding the bottom
line.
Keep on talking, guys. I am discovering valid arguments on both ends of the
rope here, and can only hope that the discussion will be mor
] Im Auftrag von Jeff
Grossman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010 17:23
An: Meteorite-list
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
I can now report with some authority that the total cost of 30+ years
of collecting by ANSMET has been in the range of $20
million. Considering the
mpletely out of interest,
meteorite hunters and dealers are interested in results!
Best!
Martin
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010 08:43
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t. are paid with public tax-money.
I'd say,
Martin
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Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jeff
Grossman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010 13:46
An: Meteorite-list
Betreff: R
Hi Jeff and List,
I agree with most of what you stated in your last post although I believe there
is a real bias among a very few scientists, and certainly a few museums.
Access to planetary material , Angrites and other rare material from NWA is
supposed to be a simple matter of contacting the
nd desirable specimens.
Best Regards,
Adam
- Original Message
From: Ted Bunch
To: Jeff Grossman;
Meteorite-list
Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 7:54:23 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
Jeff - your statement from below " Also, don't overlook the f
Jeff Grossman ; Meteorite-list
Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 7:54:23 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
Jeff - your statement from below " Also, don't overlook the fact that
Antarctic meteorite have proven to be vastly more valuable scientifically
than NWA
I can now report with some authority that the total cost of 30+ years
of collecting by ANSMET has been in the range of $20
million. Considering the record of scientific achievements that has
been built on this collection of 20,000 specimens, I would have to
say it has been a bargain.
Jeff
M
Jeff - your statement from below " Also, don't overlook the fact that
Antarctic meteorite have proven to be vastly more valuable scientifically
than NWA meteorites" is misleading and somewhat biased. Meteorites of the
various classes are nearly equally represented in the Antarctic and Desert
collec
Make your homework. How many different meteorites do we have from
Antarctica after a third of a century hunting and spending billions of
USD? 7000.
This statement, appearing in some of the recent emails, is wrong. There
are over 16,000 classified meteorites from the ANSMET expeditions, plus
a
t tell us other
things.
If we had taken longer to recover the meteorites, yes, we would have
fewer of them now, but...they're not going anywhere.
Whether I go to a lakebed to hunt tomorrow or ten years from now, that
meteorite will still be there. But if I go tomorrow and pick it up
without taking coordina
thanks martin,
i would say guys , the nomade are not hunters of meteorite as a job, most of
the meteorite are found accidently, that's the reality except for the falls,
that we hire team to look for,
just to understand what is hapenning in nwa and what is going on on the list i
will say
the nom
..@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason
Utas
Gesendet: Montag, 18. Januar 2010 22:57
An: Greg Catterton; Meteorite-list
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Hello Greg, All,
This brings up a valid point - when total known weights have increased
since initial reporting, I
Well, I don't know if you left any out as that is not really important.
However, anybody who thinks they can sit in front of their TV eyeballing
meteorites that they just got in the mail from from some remote desert, and
make a "best guess" classification will get called out by those of us who
s of questions, I know... Just trying to get a better understanding of
> this and expectations from pairing.
>
> Greg
>
>
> --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Greg Stanley wrote:
>
>> From: Greg Stanley
>> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
>> To:
- Original Message -
From: "Zelimir Gabelica"
To: "Greg Catterton" ;
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
Hi Greg,
This might be a typical question for Jeff Grossman.
I am also continuously puzzled by the
-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn
Alan
Gesendet: Montag, 18. Januar 2010 20:46
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
Greg and the list,
As a seller I would say its your obligation to disclose all in
uftrag von Shawn
Alan
Gesendet: Montag, 18. Januar 2010 20:46
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
Greg and the list,
As a seller I would say its your obligation to disclose all information
about that meteorite as possible. Howe
---
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:46:15 +0100
> To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> From: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> This might be a typica
Greg and the list,
As a seller I would say its your obligation to disclose all information about
that meteorite as possible. However, I recently encountered that with some
meteorites being sold on eBay and the excuse of the individual was... I have
been busy and its hard to keep up with new fi
and hope
others come out with just as much.
Save these posts to word doc or something for future use, its good stuff.
Greg C.
--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Greg Hupe wrote:
> From: Greg Hupe
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
> To: "Greg Catterton"
&
/10, Greg Stanley wrote:
> From: Greg Stanley
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
> To: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr, star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:20 PM
>
> Zelimir:
>
&g
Hello Greg C. and All,
The self pairing issue comes up at least once a year. I agree that a single
number would be best for all, but there are too many problems with that
model. In the original question Greg C. asked with NWA 1877 as an example,
as one of the original co-owners of the NWA 1877
tkw: 1273.3 g (as per Jan. 2010)
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:46:15 +0100
> To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> From: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> This might be a typica
Zelimir brings up one more case that I didn't cover... when two names
are given to the same physical stone. If the NomCom learns of this and
can be sure that this is what happened, they can abolish one of the names.
jeff
On 2010-01-18 12:46 PM, Zelimir Gabelica wrote:
Hi Greg,
This might be
[meteorite-list] Pairing discussion/questions
> To: "Greg Catterton" ,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:46 PM
> Hi Greg,
>
> This might be a typical question for Jeff Grossman.
>
> I am also continuously puzzled by the
Thanks very much Jeff.,
Your answer arrived while my post was sent. By
all means it better explains the complicated
situation regarding pairings than my poor trials.
Zelimir
At 18:01 18/01/2010, Jeff Grossman wrote:
I think I've answered this before, but again:
Yes, it would be great if a
Hi Greg,
This might be a typical question for Jeff Grossman.
I am also continuously puzzled by the abundance
of paired meteorites (thus those that are officially recognized as such).
Let's suppose that once one (or a few)
meteorite(s) are selected from an important lot
(as found) and sold t
I think I've answered this before, but again:
Yes, it would be great if all meteorites that fell as a single shower
(in a single field o'strewn) had a single name.
When a meteorite is found in Kansas or Germany or Mexico, it's fairly
easy to look in databases and catalogs and find all the pos
Good question Greg. I'm curious to see if you'll hear anything other
than crickets in response. ;)
On 1/18/10, Greg Catterton wrote:
> I have often wondered and after some discussion with others I wanted to get
> the community feeling on the issue of pairings.
>
> If a meteorite say NWA 1877 for
I have often wondered and after some discussion with others I wanted to get the
community feeling on the issue of pairings.
If a meteorite say NWA 1877 for example is out there and more is recovered and
verified to be the same material from the same strewnfield, should the new
material share th
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