[meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hi Ruben and List, As Jeff Grossman already stated the primitive achondrite vs. LL7 isssue is highly controversial but here are some criteria and examples culled from the literature: 1) Dodd (1981) lists three criteria that can be used to distinguish between types 6 and 7 ordinary chondrites:

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Jeff Grossman
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:23 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Hi all, I just bought a smallish collection and several of the slices that came with are NWA 3100. Mike Farmer's card was included and lists NWA 3100

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread MexicoDoug
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 7:38 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Some PACs do in fact contain relict chondrules, especially acapulcoites and winonaites. Some chondrites have no chondrules (CIs and highly altered ones, plus some type 6

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Adam Hupe
Doug wrote: I can't wait until someone turns up a CV6+.  Theoretically, there is no reason to bar the possibility,, or is there... NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite All of these oxygen isotope compositions plot on the CV3 mixing line, suggesting that this achondritic meteorite has

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread MexicoDoug
: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 11:47 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Doug wrote: I can't wait until someone turns up a CV6+.  Theoretically, there is no reason to bar the possibility

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Alan Rubin
To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Adam wrote: NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite Hi Adam, thanks ... The asteroid belt ought to be called the asteroid zoo

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2011-12-06 Thread MexicoDoug
) -Original Message- From: Alan Rubin aeru...@ucla.edu To: raremeteorites raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 1:05 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question I thought I would add my tuppance worth. I don't use

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2011-12-06 Thread Alan Rubin
: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Adam wrote: NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite Hi Adam, thanks ... The asteroid belt ought to be called the asteroid zoo! The question I have on this one, if CV is for certain, would be whether it is the result of a collision with a typical CV

[meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hi All, Alan kindly wrote: George Merrill's The Story of Meteorites from 1929: There are andrites, eukrites, shergottites, howardites, bustites, chassignites, chladnites, amphoterites, howarditic chondrites, white chondrites, intermediate chondrites, gray chondrites, black chondrites,

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread cdtucson
Ted, Jeff, Doug, list, Given what we now know about Almahatta Sita and how the classification type depends largely on what sample piece is being tested at the time. Couldn't this help explain why your (Ted's) Butt has been getting the workout as of late? Maybe you were right all along and

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Darryl Pitt
Hiya, Just ramping into this thread---which fascinates. Thank you! All best / Darryl __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread Alan Rubin
@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Adam wrote: NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite Hi Adam, thanks ... The asteroid belt ought to be called the asteroid zoo! The question I have on this one, if CV

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-06 Thread cdtucson
To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Adam wrote: NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite Hi Adam, thanks ... The asteroid belt ought to be called the asteroid zoo

[meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all, I just bought a smallish collection and several of the slices that came with are NWA 3100. Mike Farmer's card was included and lists NWA 3100 as an LL7. The Met-Bul calls NWA 3100 a Primitive achondrite - not an LL7. My question is this, Does LL7 denote a particular Primitive

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-05 Thread Jeff Grossman
Type 7 is considered by most of those who use it to represent the highest degree of thermal metamorphism that a chondrite can experience without melting. As implied in that first sentence, some petrologists don't distinguish these from type 6. The term primitive achondrite is widely taken to

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-05 Thread MexicoDoug
mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:23 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Hi all, I just bought a smallish collection and several of the slices that came with are NWA 3100. Mike Farmer's card was included

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

2011-12-05 Thread Ted Bunch
Well stated Jeff and I agree! Thank you. There is the thing about metachondrite terminology, but we shall leave this dead horse alone for the time being. Two of these unremitting classification issues in 3 days is much too much for me in one week, especially when my butt is tied to both of them.

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2011-12-05 Thread John Lutzon
jngross...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Well stated Jeff and I agree! Thank you. There is the thing about metachondrite terminology, but we shall leave this dead horse alone

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2011-12-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
to, John. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net To: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Well stated Jeff and I agree! Thank you

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2011-12-05 Thread MexicoDoug
jngross...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 11:02 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question Hi all, Thanks Jeff and Doug. Sorry Ted, I've been out of town and haven't followed any other similar conversation so I wasn't aware it was a touchy subject. However, since we're here