Hi,
This is a great discussion, very interesting.
As was brought up by me and others last time round, it's all very well
having information about the origins and history of a piece, but it just
never gets passed on!!!
I still think a lot of the problems would be solved if we had a standard
*snip*
entitled to know something about the origins of the piece! Who would buy
a diamond without knowing it was real,
I've bought Lunar slices from well respected dealers that arrived in
nothing more than a small plastic bag, with not even the number written
on, that's simply an appalling
Hello all-
Thought I'd burn the midnight oil and give the folks across the pond a
fighting chance at a great deal.
Up for offer is some of the Recrystallized Howardite NWA 1929
Classification info below, this material is PAIRED
Classification and mineralogy (T. Bunch and J. Wittke, NAU): a
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:15 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
Hello all-
Thought I'd burn the midnight oil and give the folks across the pond a
fighting chance at a great deal.
Up for offer is some
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Michael Farmer
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:45 PM
To: Rob Wesel; Meteorite List
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This one confuses me.
We had a large fight and discussion just last week, where the Hupes and
Dr
Jeff Grossman said
really know
how to do it. I
Mike Farmer
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 7:50 AM
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Money, you know
, September 23, 2004 10:45 AM
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This one confuses me.
We had a large fight and discussion just last week, where the Hupes and Dr
Jeff Grossman said that pairings must be made scientifically and when the
nomenclature committee denote a number
. Everyone would lose out.
Regards
Ken
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Sent: 23 September 2004 15:51
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Money, you know
in cities 400 miles apart! That makes for some
very confusing classification problems.
Mike Farmer
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:05 AM
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You
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Yes Jim, it wasn't pretty.
The part about falls and finds was discussed. There is no need to classify
every piece
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Michael Farmer
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:58 PM
To: Bernhard Rendelius Rems
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Bernhard
: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:19 PM
To: 'Michael Farmer'
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Michael (and others who have written to me in private),
it's not making me sick that it's about money, it makes me sick that
people do not stick to the rules (even
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From: Bernhard Rendelius Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Money, you know.
This makes me so sick lately that I think of quitting this hobby
of fixing. I don't really
know
how to do it. I
Mike Farmer
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Money
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Hell, I am talking about 1929, of course, not 2019
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You should have been in Denver, Mike. You would have been shocked to see
how much uncut NWA 1929 was being sold at low prices.
I am glad that I wasn't on the list the last month to witness
: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:35 AM
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Hi Bernhard and list,
Something else to bear in mind (although it may be trivial) when you refer
to the TKW of say NWA1929 (or any other classified NWA). The weight is
actually the total weight not total
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:58 PM
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Bernhard, don't do that. I also have felt that way, but love
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Sent: 23 September 2004 16:19
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Michael (and others who have written to me in private),
it's not making me
.
Regards
Ken
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Michael (and others who have written to me
Message -
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:05 AM
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You should have been in Denver, Mike. You would have
been shocked to see
how much uncut NWA 1929
: 23 September 2004 16:53
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This is an interesting point. The word known implies that up to this
point this is what we know exists. History has shown that addition
specimens of meteorites
to this list to explain this procedure, recently e.g. by
Jeff Grossman.
Cheers,
Jörn Koblitz
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material.why no put a unique number?
Matteo
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:24:11 +0200
But Bernd
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Ken, indeed, there may be other pieces, but since Adam and Jeff Grossman
made it extremely clear last week that like the 1068 and 1110
meteorites, the name
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Ken, indeed, there may be other pieces, but since Adam and Jeff Grossman
made it extremely clear last week that like the 1068 and 1110
meteorites
Hi List,
Many will be glad to hear meetings were held in Denver to discuss these very
issues. As I already stated in our auctions and on the List, a secondary
type specimen was submitted and determined to be paired with NWA 1929 by the
same laboratory (NAU). NWA 1929 was still in provisional
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:47 AM
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Hi List,
Many will be glad to hear meetings were held in Denver to discuss these
very
issues. As I already stated in our auctions and on the List, a secondary
type specimen was submitted
on 9/23/04 7:58 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also have felt that way, but love for the
meteorites themselves keeps me sane.
Michael,
Perhaps you need A LOT MORE meteorites!
Best wishes, Michael
PS: (good natured kidding here, folks,
: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
Ok Adam,. I can accept this from you, sounds clear enough, but what about
the many kilos of it being sold in Denver by Thompson? What do you
suggest?
Mike Farmer
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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bernhard Rendelius Rems
Hi Martin and all,
Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rem goes by the name of Bernhard and is NOT Bernd Pauli
who supplies us with all the statistical data we all appreciate. Bernhard does
have a nice website that a number of people have supported by sharing info with
him from this list.
I just want people to
for it.
And he calls me Bernd just because we are in love *g*.
Bernhard
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 23:32
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:45 PM
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This is an ongoing discussion between Martin and me :-)
Martin is totally right: The meteorites from Oman and the ones from Dar
Al Gani are much
Hi Rob, and All,
Wow, you really know what's going on. Most of the Dhofar, SaU, DaG,
and HaH finds are documented, i.e., we have the exact find locations
and find circumstances on record, published in the Meteoritical
Bulletin, and these data can be accessed by anyone who has the desire
to do so.
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:21 AM
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Dhofar 010, 020, 007..
Not necessarily better documentation, just exemption
Ken, indeed, there may be other pieces, but since Adam and Jeff Grossman
made it extremely clear last week that like the 1068 and 1110 meteorites,
the name can only be used for my original piece 922 grams.
Anything thought to be paired needs to be classified and given a new
number
and perhaps
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Dhofar 010, 020, 007..
Not necessarily better documentation, just exemption from the pairing
demands on NWA.
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers
Well Said.
Devin
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:29 PM
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Hi Rob, and All
are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971
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This debate is exactly why I focus collecting meteorites from other
places besides the deserts. I only have 10 NWAs in my collection.
Many researchers jump to classify an L6 from the US over an L6 from
Morocco.
That is just the way it is. These named meteorites have more sex
appeal, IMHO, and in
, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
This debate is exactly why I focus collecting meteorites from other
places besides the deserts. I only have 10 NWAs in my collection.
Many researchers jump to classify an L6 from the US over an L6 from
Morocco.
That is just the way
Hi Matt and all,
Although I collect NWA's (mainly rare items never before obtainable
until the NWA Meteorite Rush), I also tend to focus mainly on name
brand types for myself and customers.
I think a great deal of the problem is this (and I am sure others will
disagree) that the PROPER field
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From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 7:52 PM
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Exactly, very well said Matt
I only own one just for that very reason, just
Hi
Maybe SOMEONE should make a Private Lab with 10?, 20? scientist, where
classification of L6 will cost 100$ and achondrite 200$ and waiting time
will be month for chondrite and 2 weeks for achondrite. This only one lab or
any other insitution should also have a right to give names for
Hi
Maybe SOMEONE should make a Private Lab with 10?, 20? scientist, where
classification of L6 will cost 100$ and achondrite 200$ and waiting time
will be month for chondrite and 2 weeks for achondrite. This only one lab
or
any other insitution should also have a right to give names for
I just got back from my mainland trip. I went to Meteor Crater (thank you
everyone who gave me instructions on how to find the old American Meteorite
Museum ruins) and will be posting about that tomorrow, after I get some
rest. I need a vacation to recover from my vacation!
My personal
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