Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-08 Thread Gary K. Foote
Greg - not aiming this at you or anyone else. Just wondering what is the value of scientific study if the outcome is subject to a vote? Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 5 May 2006 at 21:57, Adam Hupe wrote: Every multiple stone classification sharing the same nomenclature was

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
Although I'm staying out of this animated discussion, I will tackle this question: All scientific publications are the subject of votes of a sort. It is called the peer-review process. That is the kind of vote new meteorite descriptions receive from the NomCom, which functions as a

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-08 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks for responding Jeff, I understand... 'Two minds are better than one'. Jury-of-peers majority [? or other than majority?] opinion based on specific standards. Comparative conclusions tallied up, so to speak. Knowing I am new to meteorites and am still learning, does this strike

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
Peer review often does not take the form of majority opinion. If only one person on a panel finds a fatal or other serious flaw, the person serving as Editor (i.e., Judge) may ask for revision or even reject a submission. It depends on what is wrong. No, I don't think there is such a thing

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

2006-05-08 Thread MexicoDoug
Hola Gary and others Yes, usually with independent peer review you have to make all the reviewers happy by answering their sometimes dumb questions but your sometimes erroneous statements, poor exposition, ambiguous statements, flawed graphs, etc. Frequently, each reviewer gets a separate

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues(SPPI)

2006-05-08 Thread Walter Branch
. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues(SPPI) Hola Gary

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues(SPPI)

2006-05-06 Thread Rob Wesel
- From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues(SPPI) Rob, Since you felt it necessary to step up, claim guilt and show disrespect for a leader

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues(SPPI)

2006-05-06 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Again, The good news is that now ~95% of the dealers out there conform to the new standards set forth by the MetSoc and have their pieces formally classified. I guess there will always be some holdout dealers that are too cheap, lazy or in too much of a hurry to have their rocks officially

RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues(SPPI)

2006-05-06 Thread stan .
Since you felt it necessary to step up, claim guilt and show disrespect for a leader in Meteoritics, I felt I had better respond publicly. Dr. Irving has earned a Ph.D. and the Nom Com votes on his submissions. I think these qualifications speak for themselves as far as qualifying rocks.