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I believe ( I know this will not be the popular belief ) that whether a
meteorite is a find or a fall and has a NWA # or locality name there
really is no point in renaming specimens. If its the same meteorite .
then its the same meteorite.
It
Accugrade and slabbing are great as far as authentication, but they limit
the way a collector can display the items and host a dozen other little
issues. I guess there is good and bad in everything!
Cj Lebel
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If we could only convince sellers to stop profiting, the world would be a
better place. I mean I provide my professional services for free, why can't
they?
Mark
Vail, AZ
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Accugrade and slabbing are great as far as authentication,
are you serious? accugrade good for authentication? there is a REASON why MS
accugrade coins sell at prices consistantly a few points lower than coins
slabbed from pcgs, ngc, etc. furthermore if you think accugrade is good for
If there is a need for a repository of photos, for example, one could be
set up in short order. Is there?
I cant speak to the scientific need for one, but from the education
standpoint I think this would be of tremendous value. If there was one
central image repository that contained a micro
It is like everything else in life.The way you say,write,think has
everything to do with how you play something out in life.Concerning this
nwa number mess.If it helps everyone,it is in the way you word your
auctions.I believe it would help out everyone just to think it out a
little more.May the
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY:
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As someone, who is trying to follow this discussion,
my eyes are starting glaze over with NWA 1110 this;
NWA 2223 that; NWA 3133 is mine; NWA 3133 is not
yours; my NWA 1906 is real; your NWA 1906 is fake;
may the real NWA 788, NWA 787, or NWA 482,
please stand up. It is hard to search back
Yes it is confusing!
To me, all it's done is make every single meteorite label in our
collections questionable. - i.e 'a probably rather than an actually'
Clearly there is no way to guarantee authenticity if people sell
unchecked stuff, - yes even if someone in a bar in Morroco said it
Mark Wrote:
Personally, I say never mind the dealers, the Buyers should get stuff
checked! - I certainly will from now on, all Lunar Martian stuff etc I
buy will gonna be checked over a lot more stringently than usual...
Best
Mark Ford
Mark:
Any reputable dealer SHOULD have their NWA's
Hi PaulThere is an easily usable seach engine for the lists archives
located at the bottom of the Meteorite-List archives.
(http://www.meteoritecentral.com/archives.shtml) If, when you click on
the email of interest it says Not found just click on cashed and you
be able to read even the
Yes but even reputable dealers buy rocks from other people/collectors,
the 'reliable' dealers buy collections and sell pieces, presumably
without 'submitting it', naturally they would just go with what the
labels that came with them say...
It's simply not practical to test everything.
If you
hello all, i'm french and seek after fragments of H3.6 bettrechies chondrite
also call by catalogue of meteorites natural history of london HAINAUT but
it's a french fall and not a belguim fall describe by this catalogue. if
someone have somethings to propose contact me at this mail adress :
http://www.gwinnettdailyonline.com/GDP/archive/article8851D359740046D5A848D11CC83DF0A5.asp
Scientist pores through fields in search of meteor traces
The Associated Press
November 21, 2004
WAYNESBORO - Hal Povenmire has devoted much of his life to searching for
small, glassy, olive-green
My MXP dos centavos(thats US $0.001 to $0.002)
John Dawn Birdsell kindly wrote:
click on the email of interest it says Not found just click on cashed and
you be able to read..
Hola John, Sorry I couldn't resist laughing at your French. Was it a Freudian
keyboard slip? Of course I can't
Well, this is one reason, why some serious collectors don´t
accept NWA:s in their collection.
I´m stil wondering, to be or not to be...;- Anyway, not the
best way to advertise these beauties - to make them as the
easter-eggs.
best pekka s
mark ford wrote:
Yes it is confusing!
To me, all it's done
Oh, is it, that serious collectors don't accept NWA in their
collections?
Or is this rather some shitty snobist attitude?
Thank you for calling me a non-serious collector. :-(
Bernhard
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Pekka
I consider myself a serious collector and NWA represents most of our
collection. Some of the rarest, most scientifically significant and
beautiful pieces have come from the Sahara. Close to half of all planetary
meteorites have been pulled from NWA. If you do not collect NWA you are
missing out
Berhnard,
the key-word is some. Some does, some doesn´t. But if you are
investing quite a lot of money, you sure want to have something
for it.
Anyway, I know collectors, who play for horses...;-
As a not so serious collector, but with several thousands of
specimens (and quite a lot of money in
Matt Morgan protested Mark Ford's comment:
Personally, I say never mind the dealers, the Buyers should get stuff checked!
- I certainly will from now on, all Lunar Martian stuff etc I buy will gonna
be checked over a lot more stringently than usual...
Hola Matt, 100% behind you. Let me add
Can aggree, perhaps some 40 % of my collection is NWA:s, bought from
dealers I know, I can catch after an year or perhaps after ten years...;-
I´m also a collector of artifacts, and some arrow-heads may have 5 - 10
labels to find out the origin of the item. If the chain of the owners is
broken,
Hello to the List members,
I'm missing the following rarities in my collection of
french meteorites :
Alais
Aumières
Beuste
Caille
Charsonville
Chitenay
Clohars
Epinal
Esnandes
Favars
Galapian
Granès
Hainaut
Kerilis
La Bécasse
Lançon
Le Pressoir
Les Ormes
Lucé
Luponnas
Marmande
Mascombes
Mezel
Adam wrote:
I consider myself a serious collector and NWA represents most of our
collection. Some of the rarest, most scientifically significant and
beautiful pieces have come from the Sahara. Close to half of all
planetary meteorites have been pulled from NWA. If you do not collect
NWA you
Hi list,
here's a link to a talk about meteorites.
It takes a few minutes to load: 66.6Mb!
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/darwincentre/live/presentations/presentation_020403CarolineSmith.html
Peter
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Dear List,
Sure, some are turned off by the efforts being made to restore collector
confidence, change is painful for some. Many believe the problem only
exists with NWA material, this is not true. The influx of material from NWA
has affected every sector of meteorite collecting including
Greetings Adam and list members. I would like to ask
Adam and Greg if and when their awesome collection
will be made avaible online, so that all of us can
gaze at it? Looking forward to that day!!!
Dave
Dear List,
Sure, some are turned off by the
Paul,
Thank you for shedding some light on how ridiculous these arguments really
are.
Some people just love to whine :-)
Bob Evans
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Thank you, Peter,
It was quite interesting to listen to Caroline Smith's talk about our
sun, planets, star formation and the role that meteorites play in this
scenario although I must admit I had some problems understanding her
British English (my problem though :-)
Here are some references:
http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/757_dho_535_1
My latest acquisition - I just LOVE ungrouped meteorites :-).
Bernhard
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Oh, is it, that serious collectors don't accept NWA in their
collections?
Thank you for calling me a non-serious collector. :-(
seeing as how I'm looking at 2.5 kg of NWA howerdite, a 2.3 kg NWA CR, 5.2
kg of NWA LL3.7, 700g of a NWA CK3, a few kg of NWA CV3, a few kg of NWA
eucrite, and 500g
Bernhard-Congratulations! That is a Gorgeous piece! Well worth a look
for those that haven't yet!
-John
Arizona Skies Meteorites
Bernhard Rems wrote:
http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/757_dho_535_1
My latest acquisition - I just LOVE ungrouped meteorites :-).
Bernhard
Greetings List;
Google has rewarded BCC Meteorites with first and second place in
stellar grain research. A search for the phrase (stellar grains) places
us in first and second place. We will continue building on what we have
learned with additional more detailed analytical work.
Thanks
Bill
WOW, that means alot of people clicked on your links. You can do that
yourself, you just have to pay for it.
I am sure alot of Porn sites are highly clicked on as well.
All of this wont make your fake moon rocks real.
Michael Farmer
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Hi,
I'm back on the list. What is BCC meteorites about? I have heard a lot
about it and read their site but I still don't understand. Odd.
Clear skies,
Jonathan
Michael Farmer wrote:
WOW, that means alot of people clicked on your links. You can do that
yourself, you just have to pay for it.
I
Yap, and I´m ranked first with the phrases
bond marilyn phonecards
So were is the beef ?
I´m analytic with my phonecards?
best,
pekka s
S. Ray DeRusse wrote:
Greetings List;
Google has rewarded BCC Meteorites with first and second place in
stellar grain research. A search for the phrase
BCC meteorites posted:
Google has rewarded BCC Meteorites with first and second place in
stellar grain research.
Wow! How high do you rank in a Google search under the term crackpot?
Geoff Notkin
Science writer, and not particularly fond of bogs
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Yes it is time once again for my end-of-the-year sale. To avoid paying
tax on inventory, I want to clear out as much as possible! Rather than
knocking off certain percentages off the retail prices, just MAKE ME AN
OFFER on anything on my site. If you do not see a size you are looking
for,
x-richfixedJonathan posted:
I'm back on the list. What is BCC meteorites about? I have heard a
lot about it and read their site but I still don't understand. Odd.
Dear Jonathan and Fellow Listees:
Jonathan, yes you are absolutely right. It is very odd and nobody
else understands their site
Hi Dave and List,
First of all, thank you for the compliment. A few difficulties prevented us
from completing a web site in which the collection would be displayed. The
most difficult was cataloging the collection which took over two years.
Another problem arose because our collection is a
well you DO realize that you dont have to buy from conventional dealers,
yes? with a little bit of research on the net it wouldnt be too hard to come
up with the contacts for at least 2 guys directly in morocco. they normally
dont like selling a few grams here and there - but if you partner up
Stan,
I was attempting to be sarcastic. I mistook Bill's comments to be an attack
on profiteering. I'd rather pay the $7/g because I know there's a lot of
value added from of all the effort it takes to have the testing, cutting
etc. done. I'd rather spend what free time I do have on
I hope Jones remove this 2 liars from the list
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x-richfixedJonathan posted:
I'm back on the list. What is BCC meteorites about? I have
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