Hey Paul,
The website below may help you some. I think it will give much of the
information you may be seeking.
http://www.terraserver.com/
Cheers,
Jeff
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From: Paul
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:35 AM
Subject:
Dr. Irving has earned a Ph.D. and the Nom Com votes on his submissions. I
think these qualifications speak for themselves as far as qualifying rocks
In a lab, I have no doubt. But in the field, wasn't the majority of the
money for that trip spent on a rock that turned out to be a brick from a
Dear Adam and All,
I mostly agree with you Adam but would place this concern in another way.
NWAs do not have any coordinate of the place where they were found and even
when studied by scientists, another piece of the same
meteorite can only be likely paired but this expression should be used
Hi Stan,
I do not agree with you as there is a rule concerning pairings (see my previous
e-mail to the List).
When a dealer says 'I believe this material to be paired to xxx' this does not
prove anything. Anybody can say that, simply because
a Morccan dealer decides so or because it 'looks
I 100% agree with you Rob.
Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/)
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From: Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:42 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Self
Well that can happen, but should not be done this way -I know I'm a kind of
utopist-.
I should have some Acfer OCs in the coming Met Bul, with some of them
classified as one, all of the fragments being analysed and
paired. My mate and I found them ourselves 4 years ago and have provided exact
That Baygorra-scam, - no Rob, I'm thinking not about you, but mainly about a
Russian ebay clown,
was extremely harmful. Now whenever a IAB from Southamerica in a little
large quantity will appear, it will be suspected to be Campo.
I have to experience this, when I'm selling the Brazilian Uruacu
Just to briefly elaborate Frederick
A new number with NomCom is considered paired not likely paired. Paired is
a scientific fact, likely paired is an opinion.
This applies to Morocco and adjacent countries alone, other hot zones like
Burkina Faso, Gold Basin, Dhofar and Franconia move right
Greetings list members,
Please take a look at a few that I have ending soon:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmaccers531QQhtZ-1
No NWAs, nothing visually paired, no controversy ( maybe next week )
Just a few nice American meteorites
Bob Evans - On my way to Park Forest in half an
My NWA 1929 has a similar pricing for those classified and likely paired
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/nwa1929.htm .
I have been doing some research on NWA 1929 / NWA 2690 and it is really
confusing to me. On Feb. 17, 2004 Adam reported a new Howardite that is
paired with NWA
Rob Wesel wrote:
Just to briefly elaborate Frederick
A new number with NomCom is considered paired not likely paired.
Paired is a scientific fact, likely paired is an opinion.
This applies to Morocco and adjacent countries alone, other hot zones
like Burkina Faso, Gold Basin, Dhofar and
Hi David, Rob and List,
It is exactly the way I understand it since I was somehow told to do so by one
of the scientists who does classifications for us,
when I asked him about it. He gave me about the same arguments as the ones that
you are using, David.
Cheers
Fred
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Hello Everyone!
The May issue of Meteorite-Times Magazine is now up for everyone to read.
The writers and contributors have done an outstanding job this month and
we thank them for all their hard work.
50th Issue!
Mark Bostick brought it to our attention that the May issue is our 50th
issue of
Hi Again,
The good news is that now ~95% of the dealers out there conform to the new
standards set forth by the MetSoc and have their pieces formally classified.
I guess there will always be some holdout dealers that are too cheap, lazy
or in too much of a hurry to have their rocks officially
Since you felt it necessary to step up, claim guilt and show disrespect for
a leader in Meteoritics, I felt I had better respond publicly.
Dr. Irving has earned a Ph.D. and the Nom Com votes on his submissions. I
think these qualifications speak for themselves as far as qualifying rocks.
Hi Folks!
I have just returned from Gifhorn, a small meteorite show in nothern
Germany! I have met Hanno Strufe there and saw the new 1,3 kg diogenite
individual, which he has posted to the list a while back, just incredible!!!
If I wouldn´t be a student (with only a small budget) I would have
New isotope studies in Germany indicate that they are not paired.
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From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was Self Proclaimed
PairingsIssues(SPPI)
Perhaps MetBull 90 will clarify this but does anyone know anymore about
this NWA 1929/2690 paring?
the material is likely paired (although it's not OFFICIALLY paired - per
Adam's 'rules'), the only issue is that the diffrence between a howardite
and a eucrite is a arbitrary deliniation
New isotope studies in Germany indicate that they are not paired.
i havent seen anything about that in the MetBul - so it's not official - so
it doesnt matter - RIGHT?
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Stan,
You are obviously one of the 5%ers. You will not find it in a bulletin. You
will find it in a peer reviewed abstract soon. You may want to spend more
time reading about the processes involved before trying to start something
you know nothing about. Get your information in and order than I
Hello list.I am sorry to see all the bickering again.It is a shame to
continue all the bantering when the list itself is having problems getting
out on a regular basis.Well to my point.I am looking for a small piece of
LOST CITY.If anyone has any let me know off list.Thanks for the time.
Hello Adam and Stan,
I would think it would be an extremely low probability (although not
zero) that a never-before-known, one-of-kind, CV-affinity metachondrite
would travel through billions of years and kilometers to find itself
occupying the same space within a box next to its exact twin
Hello Dave and List,
The so-called pairing to NWA 3133 has a different affinity as you like to
say although just as rare as a CV. You are in touch with scientists, check
it out. Our material did not come from Aziz Habibi and anybody who listens
to him should take what he says with a serious
Hello everyone, for some reason I can't get the link to work for
photobucket. I am going to blame my dial up connection, I don't have
the patience to work with dial up. If anyone is interested I will send
some low resolution pictures to your e-mail. Let me know off list.
Thanks
--
Mike Miller Po
I have a family emergency and although I just got home from over 2 week
expedition, I must leave again for at least a week. I will have some access
to email, but sporadic.
Everyone who has been emailing me, requesting items, or needing something,
please bear with me, as it will be a little longer
Hello Adam,
I am not relying on any statements by my friends Aziz or Nelson to gauge
whether or not NWA 3133 and 1839 are paired or not paired. I also have
no bias for whichever scenario is correct, I just want to know. The
following information is all that I have to go on, and it all
Fair enough, when the abstract is published, I will update the List. In the
meantime, accept the fact that batteries of testing on different continents
are underway so the last word on NWA 3133 is no where near finality as is
the case with other important meteorites. I do stay in touch with
Adam,
One other bit of information that I have as well is the published
petrological, mineralogical, and geochemical analyses from these two
stones, and virtually all of the data overlap. This could mean that they
are merely launch-crater paired, but doesn't exclude an actual paired
landing.
Stan,
You are obviously one of the 5%ers. You will not find it in a bulletin. You
will find it in a peer reviewed abstract soon. You may want to spend more
time reading about the processes involved before trying to start something
you know nothing about. Get your information in and order than
Stan,
I start off nearly all my auctions every week at just 99 cents with no
reserve so you have it all wrong as usual. I despise laziness, lack of
ethics and the lack of a moral compass above all. You like to jump in and
create arguments where none exists and bring in things that have nothing
The first meteorites I purchased were from the Hupes. As soon as I heard Adam
open his mouth, I read everything in the archives that related to him. For
obvious reasons, I never bought from him again. His arrogance and avarice
inspired me to caution. I concluded that there must be more like him
I see our friend, Bill is off his meds again. I figured you would join the
same wolfpack again as soon as the feeding frenzy began. It is interesting
to see the same personalities come out for the fray, time and time again. I
guess every nasty thing out there is now coming out of the woodwork.
As usual, this negative thread was started and nurtured by you. The only
frenzied feeder is Adam Hupe, feeding his own ego.
Charmed,
Bill
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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I see our friend, Bill is off his meds again. I figured you
Some archeologists and geologists have published research about
a Middle Stone Age meteorite impact, which occurred in the Western
Desert of Egypt.
Haldemann, A.F.C., M.R. Kleindienst, C.S. Churcher, J.R. Smith, H.P.
Schwarcz, K. Markham, and G. Osinski, 2005, [17.03] Mapping
Impact Modified
Hi Mike and Meteorite-List,
YES! I saw it from Tucson. It was one of the best fireballs I've
ever seen.
I was driving east on the little entrance road to "Cactus Country RV
Resort" off of Houghton Road. At 9:45 P.M. local time, I and two
passengers saw a beautiful green fireball due east
Hola Sterling,
Back again, in the last email (Part I.) I forgot to mention concerning the
maps based on and/or accompagnying Beda Venerabilis (673-753), that he wrote
about the shape of the Earth, not only that it is rotunda (round), but
explicitely that it is a pila = a ball.
Let's start with
Bill,
i've bought more than one meteorite from Adam and i'll buy from him again
in the future. i get exactly the meteorite shown in the auction, it's
described accurately, packed well, always has an id card, and i don't wait
three weeks for him to get around to sending it to me. i've never
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/May_7.html
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Rob and List,
I retract the statement I made about Rob Wesel's selling Campos as something
else. I was informed by what I felt was an accurate source that he sold a
collector a complete Baygorria. Knowing that there is only one meteorite
that can be called Baygorria that was sliced up I assumed
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