[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update
G'day all, I received a very interesting email today from someone who had read through my Sikhote-Alin Impact Pit page. They sent me a couple of photographs of a large gun on Corregidor Island, Philippines which was damaged from a WW2 bomb. The resulting damage is unmistakably similar to the pits found on some SA's. The pics are at the bottom of this page: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/impactpits.html Comments welcome. Does anyone know what type/size of gun this is? Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update
Hi, Jeff, This is a coastal defense gun, intended to be used against approaching naval forces. The longest-range coastal pieces were the two 12-inch guns of Batteries Hearn and Smith, with a horizontal range of 29,000 yards. Although capable of an all around traverse, these guns, due to their flat trajectories, were not effective for use against targets on Bataan, so that they could not be used against the Japanese after they had occupied it! The gun in your photo is one of those two guns, but I can't say whether it was Battery Hearn or Battery Smith. The other 12-inch Batteries were mortars rather than long-range guns. They brought the most destruction on Japanese positions during the attempted landings on the southwest coast of Bataan late in January to the middle of February, 1942. These mortars were silenced by enemy shelling in May, 1942. Battery Geary was a battery of six 13-ton, 12-inch mortars. This battery, when pinpointed by the Japanese, was subjected to heavy shelling. One direct hit by a 240 mm shell, which detonated the magazines of this Battery in May 1942, proved to be the most crippling shot during the entire siege of Corregidor. This shelling tossed the mortars around, one to a distance of 150 yards, another was blown through three feet of reinforced concrete wall into the adjoining powder magazine of Battery Crockett. Large chunks of steel were blown as far as the Malinta Tunnel, while 27 of the battery crew were killed instantly. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update G'day all, I received a very interesting email today from someone who had read through my Sikhote-Alin Impact Pit page. They sent me a couple of photographs of a large gun on Corregidor Island, Philippines which was damaged from a WW2 bomb. The resulting damage is unmistakably similar to the pits found on some SA's. The pics are at the bottom of this page: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/impactpits.html Comments welcome. Does anyone know what type/size of gun this is? Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Exciting Desert Delicacies - pictures
Dear List, We would like to share a few photos of interesting desert finds with you, which we acquired during the last months in Morocco, and which are worth being looked at in our opinion. Unfortunately, we hadn't time yet to prepare the pieces for the classification, but we'll send samples of these pieces as soon as possible to the lab. Enjoy the pictures. A very strange meteorite of only about 25g which is probably a carbonaceous chondrite. But at the moment we have no idea which exact type of a c-chondrite it might be. Because of the very dark colouring and the relative softness, it could be a CM or maybe a metamorphosed c-chondrite. Only on a polished surface one can see a few, very small round objects (chondrules?) which are as dark as the surrounding matrix. By the way this meteorite was offered as a possible CI chondrite in Morocco, and in spite of the high price we couldn't resist to buy it. This meteorite is perhaps a very interesting study material. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carbonaceous.jpg This achondrite looks very similar to the Agoult eucrite at the first view. But it was a little surprise to see the interior after cutting. Beside the Agoult-typical matrix is a different lithology found, which is more coarser grained. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/achondrite2.jpg The following meteorite is very nicely oriented and has a typical button shape. The interior explodes of tiniest metal flakes, but chondrules are completely absent and if it won't turn out to be an enstatite chondrite of a high grade, then it will be certainly a very uncommon type of high interest. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/iron-rich.jpg Last but not least for those, who hadn't the opportunity to visit our room in Tucson, here another picture of the 606g lunaite, which - without wanting to anticipate the classification - seems to be a piece of the fresh graulitic impactite NWA 3163/4483. It isn't a new find, the existence of that piece was known since end of 2005. But for several reasons it was very difficult to get. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/lunar-606g.jpg Best wishes, Chladni's Heirs __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom
Moni's post I found most interesting of all, I like it / I don't like it. H. sounds like it is the way you look at it. And most certainly, everyone has a right to look at things their own way. I might look at that cannon and think, Why, that's DISGUSTING! That cannon killed people and now someone is using it to demonstrate the effect of high velocity shrapnel and how it can closely resemble the venerable Sikhote-Aline meteorites! OR, one could look at it the way the person who presented it does. I, personally, found the Meteorite Blog a sewer and was highly offended that someone was making obscene posts to it using my name. I immediately stopped going there - this was about 2 hrs into its existence. For all I know it is still going strong. I don't know - I don't care. I stopped going there. It is none of my business if other people like it or not. I was one of the first to be lampooned by Proud Tom - and fairly heavily so. I laughed until it hurt. Others, some of whom I respected a great deal found it offensive when they were lampooned. I don't get it, but that is their right. Chicago Steve's response was one of the things endeared him to me. Say what you like, he can laugh at himself. I find it interesting that most of the positive responses have been sent to me privately and all of the negatives were posted to the list, even though I explicitly asked for positives only, pointing out that 1) the negatives have a choice - don't go to his site and 2) if there were a lack of any positive response I assume Proud Tom would find it not worth his while to post a web page. To liken his humor to use of the N word is absurd. As I said, he poked fun at me as vigorously as he did anyone. As for the original Tom that inspired the baboonery, I know him well and he is a fine fellow, indeed. Sometimes it HELPS to laugh at yourself. But clearly some among us cannot find that path. That's OK, just don't go to his site. This is like a politician getting all hot and bothered because Mad Magazine does a riff on him. Good grief, people, if you take yourselves that seriously, just don't check out his site. He doesn't use the list other than to invite those who want to to visit his web site. So, buck up and pull a Barbara Bush and just don't go. Leave the rest of us to our drugs... er, Proud Tom. I won't say any more about this - so all you Proud Tom Bashers can have at it. Bash the hell out of him. It is better than the usual picking on real people that periodically bursts forth on the list, anyway. He'll either make some more humor pages or he won't - if he does, he maybe he will lampoon the bashing against him. Bet most of you won't be able to resist checking that out. Sorry, but THAT strikes my funny bone, as well. Guess I'm just a pervert.. but lest any of you think so (and I know some do) I am NOT Proud Tom. I am not that witty. Long live the Nakhla Dog and Proud Tom, though I fear we may never see the likes of either of them again. (maybe he'll make a SECRET page and only those that write me off list will be able to get the URL - then he will exist only in the DEEP UNDERGROUND dark side of the meteorite world and spare the offended list members from being exposed to even seeing his URL - if he does, I promise not to tell anyone who asks for the URL and who doesn't. bet requests include some of the nay sayers, though. Go for it Proud Tom, NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!) Best wishes, Michael on 3/4/07 11:07 PM, Moni Waiblinger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Evening All, I totally agree with Anne abd Dean! I was kidding when I said I enjoyed it in my reply post from Michael. But then I did get a reply from proud Tom to my personal email account! ;-) Let him rest or not use people as targets. I totally agree that when one 'googles' any info about a meteorite person's name, it looks bad when it comes up as a person of bad character. With best regards, Moni PS. I was also mentioned in one of the episodes and thought it to be funny, but never less some did offend others and that is what should be considered. From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 22:53:25 -0800 (PST) While I have to admit (Somewhat embarrasingly) that I did read and had a laugh out of the past website and that it was mildly amusing in an offensive sort of way, I have to agree with anne. I didnt feel offended but I could easily see that the site was offensive to 3 or 4 of the target people and crossed the line between good natured humour among friends and was derogatory rather than funny. With several of the target people the humour was a mild form of the N word jokes and not harmless poking fun - and there was no apology from proud tom who didnt see any harm when these target people publicly
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update
Jeff, Gun-buff's, G'Mornin' It's an artillery M-series M1895 (M1895M1A4) 305mm (12-inch) Coastal Defense Gun (made in about 1895) on an M1917 Barbette Carriage. The big gun can fire a 900 pound (409 kg) nicely oriented shell over 16 miles (26.5 km) range through the atmosphere at sea level. At least part of the technical manual is apparently actively available on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140091777488 These aptly named batteries of big guns and mortars (Crockett, but not Davy:-), etc.) were the ones that the Americans held out with for a month in an Alamo-like encounter with the Japanese, in which that now long ago inspiring heroic effort on this island with the sacrifices protected Ozitrailia from invasion. If it were not so nicely an oriented shell ... I doubt it would make it 5 miles. That's more than 10 extra miles out of orientation ... though a little heavier than the Venus stone ... More information on the battle is available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corregidoraction=editsection=7 And here is the picture of the original gun model, though sandblasted repainted spruced up now theme park style gun to accompany the wiki text which can be compared to Jeff's reader's picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_12_Inch_Gun.jpg There were a pair of these M1895 guns on these carriages according to the website corregidor.org, in addition to other recessed M1895's of the same caliber, many of which are tourist attractions there today. Originally the pair on carriages was called the Smith Brothers, named after the Smith Brothers' cough drops, and they were fondly known as Pat and Pending. (But later one was named Hearn, and the humor was lost. C. C. Hearn, a West Point Graduate and Naval Coastal defenses expert invented a plotting board and a super accurate range finder which he gave to the government rather than patenting). And we think WE live in violent times! Best health, Doug From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update G'day all, I received a very interesting email today from someone who had read through my Sikhote-Alin Impact Pit page. They sent me a couple of photographs of a large gun on Corregidor Island, Philippines which was damaged from a WW2 bomb. The resulting damage is unmistakably similar to the pits found on some SA's. The pics are at the bottom of this page: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/impactpits.html Comments welcome. Does anyone know what type/size of gun this is? Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux
Wow he is almost back,but not quite.Hey I do not care if proud tom comes back or not.It has been a few years since I got lambasted by him.Actually it was quite funny.Being as super liberal as I am,I laughed all the way to the funny bank.I know pt is a fictional character made up of someone who is very good with a computer.My hats off to him.I believe that there is a line we should never cross.He has made up his own.I know that there are a few people who do not like his humor.For me it does not even bother me.IT IS ONLY WORDS!Hot air coming off of someone's computer.Like Mr. blood says,the delete key is only 1 inch away from my little finger,and I use it alot.I know that I am not liked by some people on this list,and that is ok,but proud tom is just a fictional character who sometimes has gone overboard,but not a problem for me.My mom always told me,A SMILE IS A NICE REFLECTION ON YOU.So if pt comes back so what,if not,no biggy to me.There is just to much negativity going on in this world,it really does not take much effort to smile.But it is really amazing how much energy we put into being negative.Well long live proud tom or may he rest in piece.I hope everyone on the list has a great day while I set and wait for my 510 gram GAO to come to it's new home. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom
I, personally, found the Meteorite Blog a sewer and was highly offended that someone was making obscene posts to it using my name. I immediately stopped going there - this was about 2 hrs into its existence. For all I know it is still going strong. I don't know - I don't care. But this blog you could visit, From the Blue Ice by ANSMET: http://www.humanedgetech.com/expedition/ansmet2/ Another Antarctic blog: http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/antarctica/ Australian meteorite hunt blog: http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/meteorite-blog/?p=108 Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux
Hmm, all very well and good, and usually most people can take a well meant joke and laugh with it, that is until someone then finds it deeply offensive or hurtful or harmful to their lively hood then its suddenly not quite so funny any more. In today's, ip logged, globally litigious world, personally I'd be very careful about defaming anyone on purpose, these things seem like a good idea at the time, but they can actually cost big time. That said, there has to be a joke about 'Gao's' there somewhere! :) lol. M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve arnold Sent: 05 March 2007 12:24 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux Wow he is almost back,but not quite.Hey I do not care if proud tom comes back or not.It has been a few years since I got lambasted by him.Actually it was quite funny.Being as super liberal as I am,I laughed all the way to the funny bank.I know pt is a fictional character made up of someone who is very good with a computer.My hats off to him.I believe that there is a line we should never cross.He has made up his own.I know that there are a few people who do not like his humor.For me it does not even bother me.IT IS ONLY WORDS!Hot air coming off of someone's computer.Like Mr. blood says,the delete key is only 1 inch away from my little finger,and I use it alot.I know that I am not liked by some people on this list,and that is ok,but proud tom is just a fictional character who sometimes has gone overboard,but not a problem for me.My mom always told me,A SMILE IS A NICE REFLECTION ON YOU.So if pt comes back so what,if not,no biggy to me.There is just to much negativity going on in this world,it really does not take much effort to smile.But it is really amazing how much energy we put into being negative.Well long live proud tom or may he rest in piece.I hope everyone on the list has a great day while I set and wait for my 510 gram GAO to come to it's new home. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 3-4-07 Update and Thanks!
Sabrina and Rebekah most kindly informed us: ... two more surgeries down the road, but he seems to have made a huge turn for the better. Great news! Wonderful news! Whoever you believe in, .. let's continue to keep Walter, Sabrina, and Rebekah in our thoughts and in our prayers! Bernd + Pauline (celebrating their 39th wedding anniversary on March 08 :-) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 3-4-07 Update and Thanks!
I second that. Very good news today! Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sabrina and Rebekah most kindly informed us: ... two more surgeries down the road, but he seems to have made a huge turn for the better. Great news! Wonderful news! Whoever you believe in, .. let's continue to keep Walter, Sabrina, and Rebekah in our thoughts and in our prayers! Bernd + Pauline (celebrating their 39th wedding anniversary on March 08 :-) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Carsten's NWA 4679 CK4
Hello List, I'd like to forward a mail I received from John Divelbiss re: Carsten's new CK4 chondrite. John is one of those who are having problems sending posts to the List but some of us, especially the owners of this unique CK4 chondrite, will find John's comments very interesting! Best wishes, Bernd Hello Bernd and Carsten, First off I want to congratulate Carsten for coming up with this beauty. It really is a unique meteorite. Also, I must tell you how surprised I was at the size of slice I received. A 1 mm thick, 7.9 gram slice is BIG ! Yes, Bernd the 7.9 g slice (#6) is mine now. I must tell you that my interest in that slice was the darker, less feature- less areas...in particular the different colors/hues that you noted. In person those hues and shapes are even more distinct. To me it is melt material, and not a clast or clasts. I have many melts in my collection, and I believe this qualifies as one too. The darker, what I'll call black, material with the triangular wedge is almost featureless. The features I do see seem to be what is left of chondrules and/or CAI's that have been melted. In almost all cases these small spots are white or light brown. Many of the nice chondrules/CAI's in the meteorites normal texture near the darker melt areas also seem to have melted rims around them too, which to me also suggests that this meteorite has been heated by impact. Are we sure we are not looking at a unique CK 4-6 impact melt? With the 6 being the darkest areas, and the in between 5 areas being the brown hued material at the edge of the meteorite in my slice where the remaining features in it are more numerous and more distinct than the black 6 area, yet different and less distinct than the areas with the nice shaped chondrules and CAI's in the bulk 4 area. Carsten...whoever (scientist) is looking at this meteorite is going to have a lot of thinking to do to come up with a final report/analysis about this extraordinary find. John __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Ragland, Kapoeta, Pultusk, La Criolla, and Estacado..Elbert
I have been very busy completely updating my site. Just added are the following: -2.2 gram Ragland, New Mexico LL3.4; fragment with polished window. Nice chondrules! -63.5 gram complete La Criolla fall of Jan. 6, 1985 with AMNH numbers. -44 gram 90% crusted Pultusk -35.2 gram thin slice of Estacado, TX. This is a beautiful H6! -1.08 gram fragment of Kapoeta; A rare howardite from Sudan only 300/g. More material on the way. Also, if anyone wants a piece of Elbert, Colorado LL6. Email me privately. I have only a VERY small amount of material for sale. We purchased the main mass of 680g. Thanks, Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mhmeteorites.com -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] proud Tom
Hi, I have to agree with Mark Ford - I think it is a little dangerous to launch into someone and take the mickey without their express consent. If Proud Tom wants to do a friendly jibe on someone then I think it would be appropriate, professional and respectful for PT to email the individual asking his permission. Otherwise, like Anne Black says - it does nothing for the Meteorite Community, which is hanging by a thread at the best of times. BTW - I take it no one was interested in the Ex AML Lalande! OT - I know - as some of you know I also collect terrestrial rocks and have just traded some stuff for what is probably the finest example of a Uraninite crystal discovered - from Harvard originally and then via two select collectors - look forward to having this nice hot shiny xl! Just thought I'd share that! Ciao! Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: New Items (Over 300 New Meteorite Specimens) FREE Shipping This Week!
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:26 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: New Items (Over 300 New Meteorite Specimens) FREE Shipping This Week! Hello Everyone, This week I am offering FREE Shipping. Use the Buy It Now feature and then deduct shipping cost, but if you have problems doing this let me know and I will send a corrected invoice reflecting FREE shipping to anywhere in the world. OVER 300 new specimens added and a lot of these have never been available before. GO TO: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom
Hello again, I am sorry to disagree with you again Michael, but I believe you missed the point. This has nothing to do with anyone being able to take some ribbing every now and then. Please read Howard (bencubbin) email again: Considering all the positive publicity generated by Steve Arnold and Geoff Notkin in promoting meteorites, what contribution will the resurrection of Proud Tom have? Will it have a positive or negative affect in the eyes of people who are taking a new interest in meteorites? Or as Tom puts it: The list is in the best shape it's been in for some time, so let's try to keep uplifting our members as we are presently doing with those who are sick and hurting, and also endeavor to not be the cause of pain or mental anguish for any member. The Meteorite Community as a whole needs all the positive publicity it can get, anything negative must be avoided. And as you well know, anything published on the Net can and will become public eventually. As you said the meteorite blog was (is?) a sewer, and I entirely agree with you. But I find it interesting that you are the one who associated Proud Tom with the Blog! So, let's not go there. As Chicago-Steve said may he rest in piece. Thank you Howard, Tom, Jerry, Dean, Dave, and all the others for your wise comments. Anne M. Black _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) --- In a message dated 3/5/2007 4:58:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moni's post I found most interesting of all, I like it / I don't like it. H. sounds like it is the way you look at it. And most certainly, everyone has a right to look at things their own way. I might look at that cannon and think, Why, that's DISGUSTING! That cannon killed people and now someone is using it to demonstrate the effect of high velocity shrapnel and how it can closely resemble the venerable Sikhote-Aline meteorites! OR, one could look at it the way the person who presented it does. I, personally, found the Meteorite Blog a sewer and was highly offended that someone was making obscene posts to it using my name. I immediately stopped going there - this was about 2 hrs into its existence. For all I know it is still going strong. I don't know - I don't care. I stopped going there. It is none of my business if other people like it or not. I was one of the first to be lampooned by Proud Tom - and fairly heavily so. I laughed until it hurt. Others, some of whom I respected a great deal found it offensive when they were lampooned. I don't get it, but that is their right. Chicago Steve's response was one of the things endeared him to me. Say what you like, he can laugh at himself. BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom
Slight correction :-) = may [tom tom] rest in p i e c e s . Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible misunderstanding!!
Hi, It has been bought to my attention re the AML Lalande... the DH0978 sticker is MY inventory number (DH0... - my inventory number! (DH=Dave Harris and the '0' is future proofing - I hope to have over 1000 specimens one day)! Only stuck on with dilute PVA glue! thanks dave Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers
Greetings all, I have come across many falls (such as Kilabo) where a fall is reported to occur throughout a villiage, with many stones recovered, yet none are reported to hit a hut, shed, house, or the like. (In the instance of Kilabo, it is reported to have fallen in 5 different villages). There MUST be a hammer or two whenever there are dozens of recoveries in a village. For instance, I have nine different hammers from Park Forest. Does anyone know how it can be that entire villages are pelted and not one hammer is included in the report? Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:03:03 -0800, you wrote: Greetings all, I have come across many falls (such as Kilabo) where a fall is reported to occur throughout a villiage, with many stones recovered, yet none are reported to hit a hut, shed, house, or the like. (In the instance of Kilabo, it is reported to have fallen in 5 different villages). There MUST be a hammer or two whenever there are dozens of recoveries in a village. For instance, I have nine different hammers from Park Forest. Does anyone know how it can be that entire villages are pelted and not one hammer is included in the report? Maybe the people in the villages don't go climbing around on their rooves? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers
Where's Kilabo and what are the roofs made of? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:03:03 -0800, you wrote: Greetings all, I have come across many falls (such as Kilabo) where a fall is reported to occur throughout a villiage, with many stones recovered, yet none are reported to hit a hut, shed, house, or the like. (In the instance of Kilabo, it is reported to have fallen in 5 different villages). There MUST be a hammer or two whenever there are dozens of recoveries in a village. For instance, I have nine different hammers from Park Forest. Does anyone know how it can be that entire villages are pelted and not one hammer is included in the report? Maybe the people in the villages don't go climbing around on their rooves? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AUCKLAND METEORITE PHOTO
Thought somebody would like this photo. The meteorite is way cool looking. Better than my photo shows. This is truely one of the worlds nicest meteorites. In the museum it is behind a dark glass and hard to take photos of. I had to photoshop the colors a bit to get it looking semi nice for my photo. I emailed the auckland museum and asked if it would be possible to get it taken out of the case so that I could get some really nice photos of it (I tried to bribe them by offering to donate a 25 gram slice of my CV3 if I could get some decent photos taken of it) but I got a very nasty email back from the museum saying that I should be well aware that it shouldent be handled anymore than necessary so it could be preserved for future generations to see. So I only have a so so photo. In any event my photo dont remotely do it justice but you might like it anyway. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/aucklandmeteorite.jpg Sincerely DEAN Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt Suspected meteorite hits Bloomington home By M.K. Guetersloh Pantagraph (Bloomington, Illinois) March 5, 2007 UPDATE 2:30 p.m. BLOOMINGTON - A Bloomington couple caught a falling star Monday morning not quite in their pockets but in a bedroom of their house. A chunk of metal that crashed through the bedroom window of David and Dee Riddle just after 9:30 a.m. appears may be a meteorite but it also could be a piece of space junk according to preliminary analysis by several Illinois State University geology professors. However, the professors who had a look at it agree that whatever the heavy, gray metal-based object that crashed through their window definitely came from space. Robert Skip Nelson, a professor of geology at ISU, came out to Riddles' home to take a look at the object, which is about the size and shape of deck of cards. Nelson said based on the density of the object, the metal could be an iron-nickel mixture or a heavy stainless steel. It is unlikely a satellite or spacecraft would contain metal that heavy and dense, Nelson said. In my 36 years of investigating meteorite calls, this looks like the real thing, Nelson said. Nelson said to be sure the next step will be to call the United State Geological Survey's meteorite center in Flagstaff, Ariz. Because of the steep entry angle into the house and the speed the object crashed into the house, Nelson said is definitely was not a rock thrown at the window. Eric Peterson, an assistant professor of geology, calculated the speed the possible meteorite hit the home was at least 60 miles an hour. Dee Riddle, who runs a day-care out of their Partner Place house, said she heard the crash and felt the house shake around 9:30 a.m. My first thought was a bathroom mirror fell so I immediately started looking, Riddle said. That's when I found the hole in the mini-blinds and the broken window. We were just lucky no one was sitting at the computer when it happened. In addition to breaking through the window, the possible meteorite hit the computer desk putting a hole through the particle board. Nelson said the last confirmed meteorite to hit Bloomington was in the 1930s. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cash Treasures Re-run Tonight
Dear Listees: Greetings comrades. Viewers in North America who haven't seen our Cash Treasures meteorite hunting episode, and would like to, have a couple more chances to catch it tonight. The show features the very lovely Becky Worley learning the ropes from heavy duty meteorite hunters Steve Arnold, Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Ruben Garcia, and Keith Jenkerson, with yours truly making wisecracks. The show opens with Darryl Pitt of the Macovich Collection, and the sharp-eyed will spot a very glamorous Mrs. MeteorHntr in the final scene. The episode is called Cash Treasures: Meteorites and as best I can tell it airs at 8:30 and 11:30 pm this evening (Eastern Time) on the Travel Channel, and at 9:30 pm (Pacific Time) on Travel Channel Pacific (TRAVP) for viewers in the western states. I suggest checking your local broadcast times as showtimes vary. The program is 30 minutes, and usually airs back-to-back with another episode from the same series. More info, lots of behind-the-scences photos, and a Making-Of about the show here: http://www.aerolite.org/cash-and-treasures.htm Cheers all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux
Hurray Steve! And thanks for the new word 'redux' I looked it up, first foolishly assumed it was a typo, being a chemist with redox on the mind. Hurray Anne! I've been at odds with Michael on Proud Tom for a long time: * * * Doug posted re: Proud Tom BS (Jan 2004): Michael, My respects to the creative talents of all the lampooning folk -- real good. Here's to the genuine Proud Tom's getting over his SERIOUSLY acute case of bovine mateoitis! http://www.fivewells.com/cgi-bin/album-view-image.pl?sec=cattleimage=75 The marines would be the first to hunt down and kill the Proud Tom, and will not hide their identity. I can't delete or similar and must file your educated and passionate messages about these people in my duck sh*t file. To which Michael responded: Doug, Hunt down and kill. that is some SERIOUSLY weird thinking. I think I have to start saving ALL these messages in my X file for WIERD! Growing concerned about the direction all this is going..Michael * * * Michael 'wierdly' had a cow when I said that! I agree most with Thomas Webb and congratulate his thoughtful and mature outlook: We can laugh at ourselves and good-naturedly poke fun at our friends when they are agreeable to it, but I saw nothing of this with that particular character. If PT wants to come back, I think it would be ok if he first gets an email address, name change, and takes change in attitude classes from Steve's Mom. Chicago Steve's Mom taught: My mom always told me,A SMILE IS A NICE REFLECTION ON YOU. Mark mulled: That said, there has to be a joke about 'Gao's' there somewhere! :) lol. Even Anne ribbed Steve: As Chicago-Steve said 'may he rest in piece'. Nor could Bernd resist again: may [tom tom] rest in p i e c e s . Michael cowered: Bet most of you won't be able to resist checking that out. Doug joins in thought: Steve, I think PT is about as funny as watching you getting run over by a convoy of tandem 18-wheelers and getting up piecefully. Michael, This is just my unsolicited personal opinion without malice toward PT. PT was a dark genius. I prefer not to see the traditional PT ever again, despite the anomalously debonair Steve's invitation. (In clicking on this link you agree to Steve's outlook, if you don't, you must resist going there): www.diogenite.com/ptsays.jpg Steve, if I've misunderstood your post, just say the word and the picture will be taken down. Chicago Steve invited: I hope everyone on the list has a great day while I set and wait for my 510 gram GAO to come to it's new home. And now we will be hearing about this until the Gao's come home and on into the hereafter, upon their subsequent herding and slaughtering on eBay met-market? Best health, Doug - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux Hmm, all very well and good, and usually most people can take a well meant joke and laugh with it, that is until someone then finds it deeply offensive or hurtful or harmful to their lively hood then its suddenly not quite so funny any more. In today's, ip logged, globally litigious world, personally I'd be very careful about defaming anyone on purpose, these things seem like a good idea at the time, but they can actually cost big time. That said, there has to be a joke about 'Gao's' there somewhere! :) lol. M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve arnold Sent: 05 March 2007 12:24 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux Wow he is almost back,but not quite.Hey I do not care if proud tom comes back or not.It has been a few years since I got lambasted by him.Actually it was quite funny.Being as super liberal as I am,I laughed all the way to the funny bank.I know pt is a fictional character made up of someone who is very good with a computer.My hats off to him.I believe that there is a line we should never cross.He has made up his own.I know that there are a few people who do not like his humor.For me it does not even bother me.IT IS ONLY WORDS!Hot air coming off of someone's computer.Like Mr. blood says,the delete key is only 1 inch away from my little finger,and I use it alot.I know that I am not liked by some people on this list,and that is ok,but proud tom is just a fictional character who sometimes has gone overboard,but not a problem for me.My mom always told me,A SMILE IS A NICE REFLECTION ON YOU.So if pt comes back so what,if not,no biggy to me.There is just to much negativity going on in this world,it really does not take much effort to smile.But it is really amazing how much energy we put into being negative.Well long live proud tom or may he rest in piece.I hope everyone on the list has a great day while I set and wait for my 510 gram GAO to come to it's new home. steve
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:34:03 -0800 (PST), you wrote: http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt Robert Skip Nelson, a professor of geology at ISU, came out to Riddles' home to take a look at the object, which is about the size and shape of deck of cards. Nelson said based on the density of the object, the metal could be an iron-nickel mixture or a heavy stainless steel. It is unlikely a satellite or spacecraft would contain metal that heavy and dense, Nelson said. In my 36 years of investigating meteorite calls, this looks like the real thing, Nelson said. Robert Skip Nelson needs to turn in his meteorite investigator card. This thing is so obviously, unambigiously NOT a meteorite that one of those preschoolers in the first photo should be able to point it out: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/notameteorite.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Hi All, Another mystery: A chunk of metal that crashed through the bedroom window of David and Dee Riddle just after 9:30 a.m. appears may be a meteorite but it also could be a piece of space junk according to preliminary analysis by several Illinois State University geology professors. Through a window rather than through the roof? That means that the object had a significant portion of its motion in a horizontal direction, which is difficult to explain for a metallic object that supposedly came from outside the atmosphere -- unless it ricocheted off a tree or another object outside the window. I wonder what the angle is (from vertical) between the desk impact location and the hole in the window? Because of the steep entry angle into the house and the speed the object crashed into the house, Nelson said is definitely was not a rock thrown at the window. Well, the picture they show of the hole in the desk is on the desk edge that I would assume was furthest from the window (given the orientation of the computer monitor). So even if the desk is only two feet deep and was butted up against the wall with the broken window, trigonometry tells you that the entry angle was no shallower than 20 degrees from vertical -- and that assumes a desktop 30 off the floor in a room with a window as high as 8 feet off the floor. If the window is only as high as 7 feet, the minimum angle increases to 24 degrees. For comparison, if you fired a projectile horizontally at 500 mph, 7 miles above the earth (think metal falling off an airplane), but did it in a vacuum, the projectile would hit the ground at over 1600 mph, but an angle of only 18 degrees from vertical. Adding back the atmosphere will only serve to slow down the projectile and make its entry more vertical. Now, given the object's odd shape, some amount of lift is possible, but not enough (from the picture I've seen) to make the entry angle 20 degrees from vertical. Conclusion: either this object hit a tree or some other object before caroming through the window, or it did not originate at a high altitude, let alone space. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Reduxin Proud Tom
Ah, PT has already performed the needed function of giving the gang a straw dog to kick around. More than one person mentioned, what would a new-to-the scene would be meteorite collector think of a PT web site (still not clear how they would find it - but that is neither here nor there). Well, here is what I think a newbe would think if s/he did somehow find a PT website: Hm interesting sense of humor or even, not my kind of humor - what they WOULDN'T see is a group of people who fancy themselves as serious, scientifically minded meteorite collectors periodically attacking someone - usually for imagined misdoings and even causing stress to the point of a heart attack. That is what they WOULDN'T see on a PT web site. More like the Don't have a gao, man! cartoon with C. Steve's face pasted in and the like. But that is just me - the real point everyone seems to ignore sits like an elephant in the room: if you don't like his humor, don't visit his site. But, as I said in the beginning, he is already performing an invaluable service as functioning as the current whipping boy and, being fictional and all, I am confident he can take it. So, maybe we can let it all go for now - then when someone starts attacking Adam Hupe or Mike Farmer or Al Iris Lang or Chicago Steve, or even Matteo, I will just post to the list the threat of the possibility Proud Tom might appear on an obscure web site somewhere and everyone can stop beating the hell out of real people and pounce on the evil Proud Tom. Ya, that's the ticket. Best wishes, Michael on 3/5/07 3:23 PM, MexicoDoug at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hurray Steve! And thanks for the new word 'redux' I looked it up, first foolishly assumed it was a typo, being a chemist with redox on the mind. Hurray Anne! I've been at odds with Michael on Proud Tom for a long time: * * * Doug posted re: Proud Tom BS (Jan 2004): Michael, My respects to the creative talents of all the lampooning folk -- real good. Here's to the genuine Proud Tom's getting over his SERIOUSLY acute case of bovine mateoitis! http://www.fivewells.com/cgi-bin/album-view-image.pl?sec=cattleimage=75 The marines would be the first to hunt down and kill the Proud Tom, and will not hide their identity. I can't delete or similar and must file your educated and passionate messages about these people in my duck sh*t file. To which Michael responded: Doug, Hunt down and kill. that is some SERIOUSLY weird thinking. I think I have to start saving ALL these messages in my X file for WIERD! Growing concerned about the direction all this is going..Michael * * * Michael 'wierdly' had a cow when I said that! I agree most with Thomas Webb and congratulate his thoughtful and mature outlook: We can laugh at ourselves and good-naturedly poke fun at our friends when they are agreeable to it, but I saw nothing of this with that particular character. If PT wants to come back, I think it would be ok if he first gets an email address, name change, and takes change in attitude classes from Steve's Mom. Chicago Steve's Mom taught: My mom always told me,A SMILE IS A NICE REFLECTION ON YOU. Mark mulled: That said, there has to be a joke about 'Gao's' there somewhere! :) lol. Even Anne ribbed Steve: As Chicago-Steve said 'may he rest in piece'. Nor could Bernd resist again: may [tom tom] rest in p i e c e s . Michael cowered: Bet most of you won't be able to resist checking that out. Doug joins in thought: Steve, I think PT is about as funny as watching you getting run over by a convoy of tandem 18-wheelers and getting up piecefully. Michael, This is just my unsolicited personal opinion without malice toward PT. PT was a dark genius. I prefer not to see the traditional PT ever again, despite the anomalously debonair Steve's invitation. (In clicking on this link you agree to Steve's outlook, if you don't, you must resist going there): www.diogenite.com/ptsays.jpg Steve, if I've misunderstood your post, just say the word and the picture will be taken down. Chicago Steve invited: I hope everyone on the list has a great day while I set and wait for my 510 gram GAO to come to it's new home. And now we will be hearing about this until the Gao's come home and on into the hereafter, upon their subsequent herding and slaughtering on eBay met-market? Best health, Doug - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] proud tom,Redux Hmm, all very well and good, and usually most people can take a well meant joke and laugh with it, that is until someone then finds it deeply offensive or hurtful or harmful to their lively hood then its suddenly not quite so funny any more. In today's, ip logged, globally litigious world, personally I'd be
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Hi, The photo in the article (way too small) looks like the real thing. After all the bitching we do about the press and the ignorant things they say, we ought to give a medal to this newspaper, The Pantagraph, for this article which accompanied their meteorite story: http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec957f7da1f395589287.txt Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt Suspected meteorite hits Bloomington home By M.K. Guetersloh Pantagraph (Bloomington, Illinois) March 5, 2007 UPDATE 2:30 p.m. BLOOMINGTON - A Bloomington couple caught a falling star Monday morning not quite in their pockets but in a bedroom of their house. A chunk of metal that crashed through the bedroom window of David and Dee Riddle just after 9:30 a.m. appears may be a meteorite but it also could be a piece of space junk according to preliminary analysis by several Illinois State University geology professors. However, the professors who had a look at it agree that whatever the heavy, gray metal-based object that crashed through their window definitely came from space. Robert Skip Nelson, a professor of geology at ISU, came out to Riddles' home to take a look at the object, which is about the size and shape of deck of cards. Nelson said based on the density of the object, the metal could be an iron-nickel mixture or a heavy stainless steel. It is unlikely a satellite or spacecraft would contain metal that heavy and dense, Nelson said. In my 36 years of investigating meteorite calls, this looks like the real thing, Nelson said. Nelson said to be sure the next step will be to call the United State Geological Survey's meteorite center in Flagstaff, Ariz. Because of the steep entry angle into the house and the speed the object crashed into the house, Nelson said is definitely was not a rock thrown at the window. Eric Peterson, an assistant professor of geology, calculated the speed the possible meteorite hit the home was at least 60 miles an hour. Dee Riddle, who runs a day-care out of their Partner Place house, said she heard the crash and felt the house shake around 9:30 a.m. My first thought was a bathroom mirror fell so I immediately started looking, Riddle said. That's when I found the hole in the mini-blinds and the broken window. We were just lucky no one was sitting at the computer when it happened. In addition to breaking through the window, the possible meteorite hit the computer desk putting a hole through the particle board. Nelson said the last confirmed meteorite to hit Bloomington was in the 1930s. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Hi, I take it all back; it DOESN'T look anything like a meteorite. (Where'd you find the additional pictures?) Very few irons fall pre-rusted... Ignore my prior post. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:34:03 -0800 (PST), you wrote: http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt Robert Skip Nelson, a professor of geology at ISU, came out to Riddles' home to take a look at the object, which is about the size and shape of deck of cards. Nelson said based on the density of the object, the metal could be an iron-nickel mixture or a heavy stainless steel. It is unlikely a satellite or spacecraft would contain metal that heavy and dense, Nelson said. In my 36 years of investigating meteorite calls, this looks like the real thing, Nelson said. Robert Skip Nelson needs to turn in his meteorite investigator card. This thing is so obviously, unambigiously NOT a meteorite that one of those preschoolers in the first photo should be able to point it out: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/notameteorite.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
I'm hard pressed to imagine a scenario by which a meteorite can land at anything other than a near vertical angle. From the picture, it's obvious this thing had some serious velocity (judging by the damage especially to the magazine); I'll be curious to see what it turns out to be. Maybe it got deflected by something like a rain gutter outside the window? Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt Suspected meteorite hits Bloomington home By M.K. Guetersloh Pantagraph (Bloomington, Illinois) March 5, 2007 UPDATE 2:30 p.m. BLOOMINGTON - A Bloomington couple caught a falling star Monday morning not quite in their pockets but in a bedroom of their house. A chunk of metal that crashed through the bedroom window of David and Dee Riddle just after 9:30 a.m. appears may be a meteorite but it also could be a piece of space junk according to preliminary analysis by several Illinois State University geology professors. However, the professors who had a look at it agree that whatever the heavy, gray metal-based object that crashed through their window definitely came from space. Robert Skip Nelson, a professor of geology at ISU, came out to Riddles' home to take a look at the object, which is about the size and shape of deck of cards. Nelson said based on the density of the object, the metal could be an iron-nickel mixture or a heavy stainless steel. It is unlikely a satellite or spacecraft would contain metal that heavy and dense, Nelson said. In my 36 years of investigating meteorite calls, this looks like the real thing, Nelson said. Nelson said to be sure the next step will be to call the United State Geological Survey's meteorite center in Flagstaff, Ariz. Because of the steep entry angle into the house and the speed the object crashed into the house, Nelson said is definitely was not a rock thrown at the window. Eric Peterson, an assistant professor of geology, calculated the speed the possible meteorite hit the home was at least 60 miles an hour. Dee Riddle, who runs a day-care out of their Partner Place house, said she heard the crash and felt the house shake around 9:30 a.m. My first thought was a bathroom mirror fell so I immediately started looking, Riddle said. That's when I found the hole in the mini-blinds and the broken window. We were just lucky no one was sitting at the computer when it happened. In addition to breaking through the window, the possible meteorite hit the computer desk putting a hole through the particle board. Nelson said the last confirmed meteorite to hit Bloomington was in the 1930s. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers
Take rather these hammer products http://www.impaktstrukturen.de/origi/120.jpg (soon we'll have longer and nicer ones). Shocked fossils from the Ries impact. If you do so, I promise to try my best to chuck a Kilabo on the roof of my hut... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michael L Blood Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2007 23:03 An: Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers Greetings all, I have come across many falls (such as Kilabo) where a fall is reported to occur throughout a villiage, with many stones recovered, yet none are reported to hit a hut, shed, house, or the like. (In the instance of Kilabo, it is reported to have fallen in 5 different villages). There MUST be a hammer or two whenever there are dozens of recoveries in a village. For instance, I have nine different hammers from Park Forest. Does anyone know how it can be that entire villages are pelted and not one hammer is included in the report? Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Many meteorite forums appear to be down/broken
I started going through my bookmarks for meteorite sites such as meteoritetimes.com, and a lot of them appear to be no longer maintained. I am mostly concerned about meteoritetimes, which was a monthly source of inspiration and entertainment for me; it appears to have had its ownership lapse and now be in limbo. Anyone have any idea what's up? Tracy Latimer _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Second To Hit Bloomington
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ecabc3df462539821993.txt Meteorite second to hit Bloomington By Roger Miller Pantagraph (Bloomington, Illinois March 5, 2007 BLOOMINGTON - A piece of the sky has fallen on Bloomington before. On a summer night in 1938, the Rev. Luther Cox and his family were listening to the radio at their home at 301 Howard St., according to an account on the Web site of Meteoritical Society, an international group dedicated to studying meteorites and planetary sciences. Between 9 and 10 p.m., they heard a noise on the back porch. The next morning, Cox found a rock that had split in two on impact. The two pieces weighed a total of about 2.3 ounces. His young son, Henry, placed the two pieces in his rock collection. In later years, the son, then grown up and a minister himself, exhibited the pieces at numerous summer camps as a possible meteorite. He had the rock analyzed in 1973 by an expert at John Deere Planetarium at Augustana College, Rock Island. He verified it as a stone meteorite. A piece was sent to Field Museum in Chicago for further study. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid Named After JHU Applied Physics Lab (132524 APL)
http://www.jhu.edu/~gazette/2007/05mar07/05aplroc.html APL Rocks! Asteroid Named After JHU Applied Physics Lab By Michael Buckley Applied Physics Laboratory March 5, 2007 | Vol. 36 No. 24 The lab that landed the first spacecraft on an asteroid now has its name on one of the sun-orbiting space rocks. Lauding the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory's leading role in several planetary missions, the International Astronomical Union approved the name 132524 APL for the provisionally tagged 2002 JF56, a small main-belt asteroid just beyond Mars' orbit. The Pluto-bound, APL-built New Horizons spacecraft zipped past the asteroid last June, and with some fast planning and programming from operators at APL and other institutions, was able to photograph the 2-mile-wide asteroid while testing its abilities to track moving objects. New Horizons principal investigator Alan Stern, of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo., proposed the name to the IAU. It's nice to see APL get its name enshrined in space, Stern says. It was long overdue. Dated Jan. 6, the IAU citation announcing the name identifies APL as the developer of numerous space missions such as NEAR to asteroid Eros, MESSENGER to Mercury and New Horizons to Pluto and the Kuiper Belt. APL made space history in 2000-2001 with NEAR, or Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous, which was the first spacecraft to orbit and then land on an asteroid. Walt Faulconer, APL's Civilian Space Business Area executive, said, As the organization that first landed a spacecraft on an asteroid on behalf of NASA, it's fitting recognition to now have an asteroid named APL. It's also exciting that it's an asteroid we saw with our New Horizons spacecraft on its journey to Pluto. We'll have to plan a mission to 'APL' someday. Asteroid APL was discovered in May 2002 by the Lincoln Laboratory Near-Earth Asteroid Research Team at Socorro, N.M. To track its path in space, go to: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db_shm?des=132524 . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Can't Pay For Killer Asteroid Hunt
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070305/ap_on_sc/killer_asteroids;_ylt=ApVHfDEiKSEMivb7S4Ub7TRvieAA NASA can't pay for killer asteroid hunt By SETH BORENSTEIN Associated Press March 5, 2007 WASHINGTON - NASA officials say the space agency is capable of finding nearly all the asteroids that might pose a devastating hit to Earth, but there isn't enough money to pay for the task so it won't get done. The cost to find at least 90 percent of the 20,000 potentially hazardous asteroids and comets by 2020 would be about $1 billion, according to a report NASA will release later this week. The report was previewed Monday at a Planetary Defense Conference in Washington. Congress in 2005 asked NASA to come up with a plan to track most killer asteroids and propose how to deflect the potentially catastrophic ones. We know what to do, we just don't have the money, said Simon Pete Worden, director of NASA's Ames Research Center. These are asteroids that are bigger than 460 feet in diameter - slightly smaller than the Superdome in New Orleans. They are a threat even if they don't hit Earth because if they explode while close enough - an event caused by heating in both the rock and the atmosphere - the devastation from the shockwaves is still immense. The explosion alone could have with the power of 100 million tons of dynamite, enough to devastate an entire state, such as Maryland, they said. The agency is already tracking bigger objects, at least 3,300 feet in diameter, that could wipe out most life on Earth, much like what is theorized to have happened to dinosaurs 65 million years ago. But even that search, which has spotted 769 asteroids and comets - none of which is on course to hit Earth - is behind schedule. It's supposed to be complete by the end of next year. NASA needs to do more to locate other smaller, but still potentially dangerous space bodies. While an Italian observatory is doing some work, the United States is the only government with an asteroid-tracking program, NASA said. One solution would be to build a new ground telescope solely for the asteroid hunt, and piggyback that use with other agencies' telescopes for a total of $800 million. Another would be to launch a space infrared telescope that could do the job faster for $1.1 billion. But NASA program scientist Lindley Johnson said NASA and the White House called both those choices too costly. A cheaper option would be to simply piggyback on other agencies' telescopes, a cost of about $300 million, also rejected, Johnson said. The decision of the agency is we just can't do anything about it right now, he added. Earth got a scare in 2004, when initial readings suggested an 885-foot asteroid called 99942 Apophis seemed to have a chance of hitting Earth in 2029. But more observations showed that wouldn't happen. Scientists say there is a 1-in-45,000 chance that it could hit in 2036. They think it would mostly likely strike the Pacific Ocean, which would cause a tsunami on the U.S. West Coast the size of the devastating 2004 Indian Ocean wave. John Logsdon, space policy director at George Washington University, said a stepped-up search for such asteroids is needed. You can't deflect them if you can't find them, Logsdon said. And we can't find things that can cause massive damage. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:04:19 -0600, you wrote: (Where'd you find the additional pictures?) Here's the photo gallery http://www.pantagraph.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=4gallery_page=0album_page=0albumid=71mediaid=1601 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Update on Iris Lang
Dear Listees: A number of you have emailed me to ask how Iris Lang is doing. I spoke with her today by telephone and her spirits are improved. She is still convalescing in Florida. Iris suffered congenital heart failure. She is taking a blood thinner and is under orders from her doctors to take it easy, but she is able to get around. She has friends and family nearby and she sounded considerably better than a couple of weeks ago. She sends her thanks to the many members of the meteorite community who took the time to mail her get well cards and flowers. If anyone else wishes to send her a note or card, please email me off-List for her mailing address. It was very kind of so many of you to write to her. Best wishes, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Gao-Guenie
Hello list, Today is the 46th Birthday of Gao-Guenie. Happy birthday Gao! Your crust is very fresh for it's age. It will be my 33rd birthday tomorrowbut my crust is not as fresh;^) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Inland Flat Lap Combo for Small Meteorites
I am curious to know if any of you own or have used the newer Inland SwapTop 6 Flat Lap and Trim Saw for small meteorites. I am considering buying one and would love to know your experiences and/or feedback regarding this product. Basically, is this a good choice for smaller meteorites slabs? The price seems great and I heard great reviews from gem and mineral junkies in Tucson, but would like to here from my meteorite peeps. Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com A Destination For Space Related Artifacts __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Many meteorite forums appear to be down/broken
Dear Tracy, Over a year ago we changed our URL to www.meteorite-times.com It was a decision made to help with the search engines. If you type meteoritetimes into Google you will see it says Did you mean meteorite times and the page is full of links to Meteorite-Times Magazine. We posted to the list that we were changing the URL but I don't remember if I included for everyone to change their bookmarks. Very sorry if I did not. Please update any bookmarks or links on your pages to http://www.meteorite-times.com Time came to renew the old url and we did not see the need to spend the money on the old URL. Our March issue will be out around the 10th and we are starting to format it now. We are also starting to embed meteorite videos from YouTube and Google as can be seen on the following URL. Please forward the URL of any YouTube or Google videos you'd like us to include to me off the list. http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite-videos.htm Thank you and sorry for any confusion, Paul tracy latimer wrote: I started going through my bookmarks for meteorite sites such as meteoritetimes.com, and a lot of them appear to be no longer maintained. I am mostly concerned about meteoritetimes, which was a monthly source of inspiration and entertainment for me; it appears to have had its ownership lapse and now be in limbo. Anyone have any idea what's up? Tracy Latimer _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 600 gr chjondrite unclassified NWA
I just recieved a really nice unclassified NWA from Morocco by responding to an ad to the List from Mohamed Ait Ouzrou. I hope to send a picture of it to Michael Johnson For SpaceRocksInc Picture of the day. Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
