[meteorite-list] Parry Sound, Ontario meteor 5MAR08 any updates on meteorite recovery?

2009-03-06 Thread drtanuki

Dear List,
  Does anyone have any updates about the Parry Sound, Ontario, Canada meteor of 
5 March 2008, one year ago?  I have posted an article and photo for those that 
are interested:

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/03/parry-sound-ontario-canada-meteor-of.html

Best regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 6, 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_6_2009.html
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[meteorite-list] WEST TEXAS METEORITE HUNT

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/WTM.html

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[meteorite-list] NWA 4483

2009-03-06 Thread zneutronz

hello list !

last specimen available :

NWA 4483, Lunar granulitic, End cut, 5.612g

only 550$/g   !

regards, oliver

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[meteorite-list] Waco Tribune and News West Newspapers

2009-03-06 Thread Ruben Garcia

Hi all, 
I been getting a lot of requests for these two papers. I only have a few of the 
Waco tribune articles. However, they can be purchased on-line here.

http://www.wacotrib.com/services/content/services/archives.html?cxntlid=navbar

Cost is about $6.00 including shipping

The dates you'll want are Feb, 19Th (Mike Farmer and Crew) and Feb 26Th 
(Meteorite Hunters anger Farmers.. or something like that)

As for the Hopper story it is only in the West News and I have no idea how to 
get that one except go to West. I have about 20 copies but probably am not 
interested in selling any as I'll more than likely save them for fellow hunters 
that are also named in the story - Steve Arnold, Sonny Clary, Rob Wesel and 
Myself, etc...

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
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[meteorite-list] West Fall

2009-03-06 Thread Walter Branch

Hello Everyone,

I have been following the new Texas fall with interest.  Thanks to every one 
provided video, pictures, and comments.  Hunting meteorites souds like fun 
:-)


I wish I were in a position to drop everyting and leave to go hunting but at 
least I can experience it vicariuos through the list.


-Walter Branch 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Parry Sound, Ontario meteor 5MAR08 any updates on meteorite recovery?

2009-03-06 Thread Mark Langenfeld

Dirk:

While I have heard nothing further, the linked maps suggest whatever 
survived may have splashed into Georgian Bay.


Mark

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:40 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Parry Sound,Ontario meteor 5MAR08 any updates on 
meteorite recovery?





Dear List,
 Does anyone have any updates about the Parry Sound, Ontario, Canada 
meteor of 5 March 2008, one year ago?  I have posted an article and photo 
for those that are interested:


http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/03/parry-sound-ontario-canada-meteor-of.html

Best regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] West Texas meteorites for sale!

2009-03-06 Thread wahlperry

Hi All,

I have Just returned home from West Texas. I will be offering a couple 
of the meteorites for sale. The meteorites are 100% fully crusted. 
email off list for prices.


#1- 3.9 grams with a small iron flake showing on one edge.

#2- 5.3 gram .

#3- 9.5 gram piece with a small flake of iron showing .

Thanks,
Sonny



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[meteorite-list] WEST TEXAS METEORITE HUNT - MICHAEL COTTINGHAM DONATION

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Johnson
Dear list members,

I just posted a photo of the West meteorite that Michael Cottingham donated to 
me.
A beautiful fresh slice with crust along with the news paper.
THANKS MICHAEL  ; )

Would also like to thank everyone that took the time to send photos to me so 
that we could share them with the meteorite community!

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/WTM.html



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[meteorite-list] west,texas

2009-03-06 Thread steve arnold

Good evening list.It seems true for the people who got to west,texas first,the 
early bird does get the meteorite.I received my 18 gram west,texas stone 
today.It looks nicer than the 7 gram piece.The bottom is flat.The crust is 
shiny and bubbly.This looks nicer than chergach and berduc.I got this piece 
from greg hupe.He found this 2/22.An outstanding piece.If none of you do not 
have this,you better get some.The 3 to 5 kilo TKW range that was talked about 
could hold true.
 
Steve R.Arnold,Chicago!
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href=http://chicagometeorites.net/;http://chicagometeorites.net//a


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] west,texas

2009-03-06 Thread mail
I'll give you 10/g for it!

--Original Message--
From: steve arnold
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] west,texas
Sent: Mar 6, 2009 3:30 PM


Good evening list.It seems true for the people who got to west,texas first,the 
early bird does get the meteorite.I received my 18 gram west,texas stone 
today.It looks nicer than the 7 gram piece.The bottom is flat.The crust is 
shiny and bubbly.This looks nicer than chergach and berduc.I got this piece 
from greg hupe.He found this 2/22.An outstanding piece.If none of you do not 
have this,you better get some.The 3 to 5 kilo TKW range that was talked about 
could hold true.
 
Steve R.Arnold,Chicago!
a rel=nofollow target=_blank 
href=http://chicagometeorites.net/;http://chicagometeorites.net//a


  
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Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] west,texas

2009-03-06 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:30:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:


Good evening list.It seems true for the people who got to west,texas first,the 
early bird does get the meteorite.

Or you could argue that, in being early buyers of new meteorites, the early worm
get eaten.
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[meteorite-list] can any listoids assist me with an email for Christian Anger

2009-03-06 Thread Bob WALKER

Listoids

I'd appreciate email details for Christian Anger so I can email him

Thank you
http://www.qmig.org

p.s. lots of updates at my website soon
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[meteorite-list] TISHKA WANTED - complete stone

2009-03-06 Thread Rob Wesel

Any wholesalers out there with a complete stone?

Rob Wesel
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Parry Sound, Ontario meteor 5MAR08 any updates on meteorite recovery?

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Bross
While I have heard nothing further, the linked maps suggest whatever 
survived may have splashed into Georgian Bay.

Mark


Hello List

This makes me rebound on questions I had prepared for the list

- do you know of any occurrence of a meteorite found on a beach, coming from 
the ocean ?
- if not, why ? Are they not looked for ? Or are they just not expectable 
?


I lived many years on Long Island (NY) and remember especially the mid 90s 
with amazing tides:
El Nino + Equinox tides bringing ashore from the near coastal depths, 
shells, beautiful weathered

glass pieces, stones, that we usually didn't see.
We found a 200 years old small snail like shell at Nino time. Just lying on 
the beach.

Not counting old amazing Horseshoe crab shells...

There was also the magnificent and powerful Leonid shower from 1997 (or 
1996?)

... some meteorites must have gone to the ocean, no ?

I am just very curious about this.
Off course the found meteorites would certainly be weathered, rounded etc... 
by their
stay in the salty and rough ocean... but knowing that the undersea plateau 
is wide and
long and that tides can bring up elements from this plateau floors... well, 
there might be

some meteorites in it...
Or am I totally nut to think that way ?

And this would count for most of all coastal areas in the world.

Cheers
Michael Bross 




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Re: [meteorite-list] Parry Sound, Ontario meteor 5MAR08 any updates on meteorite recovery?

2009-03-06 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Michael,

I have a small meteorite fragment from a fall in 2003 that was found within 
yards of a beach just weeks after. It had already deteriorated very badly 
because of the salty wet atmosphere. Pieces from further inland showed hardly 
any weathering...so I suspect that any meteorite containing nickel/iron (and 
most do) would not last long in salt water unless it was very large, and then 
it would also be less likely to be washed up. I think micro meteorite samples 
have however been recovered from sea sedimentsbut they are not likely to 
have iron in I suspect.

The regular meteor showers such as the Leonids have never had any 
confirmed/associated meteorites attached to them as far as I know as they are 
from dust trails we pass through (too small to survive). Many people have tried 
to look at the frequency of these showers and link them with meteorites with no 
definite success.

Hope that helps...I do not know of any meteorite that has been recorded being 
washed up on the beach...anybody else on the list know?

Graham Ensor, UK


 Michael Bross elemen...@peconic.net wrote: 
  While I have heard nothing further, the linked maps suggest whatever 
  survived may have splashed into Georgian Bay.
  Mark
 
 Hello List
 
 This makes me rebound on questions I had prepared for the list
 
 - do you know of any occurrence of a meteorite found on a beach, coming from 
 the ocean ?
 - if not, why ? Are they not looked for ? Or are they just not expectable 
 ?
 
 I lived many years on Long Island (NY) and remember especially the mid 90s 
 with amazing tides:
 El Nino + Equinox tides bringing ashore from the near coastal depths, 
 shells, beautiful weathered
 glass pieces, stones, that we usually didn't see.
 We found a 200 years old small snail like shell at Nino time. Just lying on 
 the beach.
 Not counting old amazing Horseshoe crab shells...
 
 There was also the magnificent and powerful Leonid shower from 1997 (or 
 1996?)
 ... some meteorites must have gone to the ocean, no ?
 
 I am just very curious about this.
 Off course the found meteorites would certainly be weathered, rounded etc... 
 by their
 stay in the salty and rough ocean... but knowing that the undersea plateau 
 is wide and
 long and that tides can bring up elements from this plateau floors... well, 
 there might be
 some meteorites in it...
 Or am I totally nut to think that way ?
 
 And this would count for most of all coastal areas in the world.
 
 Cheers
 Michael Bross 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Hey-How About those total weights from West-Anyone keeping track????

2009-03-06 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,

How about those total weights from West? Where do we stand?

Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
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[meteorite-list] A few more West specimens for sale

2009-03-06 Thread Ruben Garcia

Hi all,
A friend in West, Texas just sent me a few specimens to sell.
Email or call for prices 623-262-7035

Hurry they go fast.
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/westmeteoritesforsale.htm



Ruben Garcia
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[meteorite-list] Could Life on Earth Have Come From Ceres?

2009-03-06 Thread Ron Baalke

http://astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=3058mode=threadorder=0thold=0

Could Life on Earth Have Come From Ceres?
Astrobiology Magazine

Summary (Mar 05, 2009): The dwarf planet Ceres is rarely mentioned as a
candidate for habitability, but the possible presence of an ocean and
hydrothermal vents suggests it is plausible. If life developed on Ceres
long ago, could it have seeded the young Earth?

Could Life on Earth Have Come From Ceres?
By Lee Pullen 

Astrobiologists hope to find life elsewhere in the universe, or possibly
even in our own cosmic neighborhood, the solar system. Their efforts are
usually concentrated on worlds such as the planet Mars, or icy moons
like Europa. However, there are other, less conventional locations in
the solar system where scientists think life may be found.

Ceres: an unusual choice

At the International Society for the Study of the Origin of Life
conference in Florence, Italy, Joop Houtkooper from the University of
Giessen divulged a theory that life could have originated on an object
in the asteroid belt named Ceres

Ceres was considered to be a planet when it was discovered in 1801, but
it was later downgraded to asteroid status. With the latest planet
definition from the International Astronomical Union, the round object
is now considered a dwarf planet. Is there a chance that this exotic
world is home to extraterrestrial organisms?

This idea came to me when I heard a talk about all the satellites in
the solar system that consist of a large part of ice, much of which is
probably still in a liquid state, says Houtkooper. The total volume of
all this water is something like 40 times greater than all the oceans on
Earth.

This reminded Houtkooper of a theory about how life originated.
Organisms may have first developed around hydrothermal vents,
which lie at the bottom of oceans and spew hot chemicals. Many icy
bodies in our solar system have rocky cores, so they may have had or
still have hydrothermal vents. Houtkooper realized, if life is not
unique to the Earth and could exist elsewhere, then these icy bodies are
the places where life may have originated.

Looking at the evidence

Early in the history of the solar system was a period known as Late
Heavy Bombardment, a turbulent time when cataclysmic asteroid impacts 
were common. If there was life on Earth before this dangerous era, it was 
most likely eradicated and had to begin again after much of this cosmic 
debris had cleared out of the inner solar system. Interestingly, evidence 
indicates that Ceres avoided being pummelled by devastating impacts during 
this time. If it had been bombarded, it would have completely and forever
lost its water mantle, as its gravitational force is too weak to
recapture it. This is probably what happened to the asteroid Vesta,
which has a very large impact crater and no water.

The evidence points to Ceres having remained relatively unscathed
during the Late Heavy Bombardment, states Houtkooper. He says this
means Ceres still could have a water ocean where life could have
originated early in the history of the solar system.

This leads to an interesting hypothesis. If the Earth was sterilized by
colossal impacts, but Ceres hosted life which survived, could the dwarf
planet have reseeded our world with life, via rock fragments that
chipped off Ceres and then crashed into Earth? Are all organisms on
Earth, including humans, descendants of Ceres? This is an idea that
Houtkooper had to pursue.

I looked at the different solar system bodies which either had or
currently have oceans, he explains. The planet Venus probably had an
ocean early in its history, but the planet's greater mass means that
more force is needed to chip off a piece of the planetary crust and
propel it in the direction of the Earth. Smaller objects like Ceres have
lower escape velocities, making it easier for parts of it to be separated.

Houtkooper then calculated the orbital paths of candidate planets, moons
and asteroids to see which were in the best positions to have pieces
successfully reach the Earth, without being intercepted by other
objects. Ceres fared favourably in these calculations.

Life on Ceres

Finally, Houtkooper considered the possibility of organisms still being
present on Ceres. In the ocean, there could be life, he suggests. On
the surface, it would be more difficult. But there are some
possibilities. There could be hydrogen peroxide-based life,
able to withstand the low temperatures. It's not currently known
whether hydrogen peroxide is present on Ceres, but nothing rules it out,
either.

The thought of Earth being seeded with life from Ceres and creatures
existing there today is certainly fascinating, but Houtkooper admits
that it is more science fiction than science fact until evidence can be
provided. This is naturally difficult to obtain, as Ceres is a small and
distant world. Even the best current images contain very little detail,
and just show that there 

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: March 2-6, 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
March 2-6, 2009

o Landslids (Released 02 March 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090302a

o Herschel Dunes (Released 03 March 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090303a

o Gigas Sulci (Released 04 March 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090304a

o Candor Chasma (Released 05 March 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090305a

o Windstreak (Released 06 March 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090306a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] More nonsense from Mars Nuts

2009-03-06 Thread E.P. Grondine

Hi Dirk, all - 

What the hell is wrong with these Mars Nuts? The Back Contamination hazard  
never seems to penetrate their fantasies.

Here's an idea: As its going to take many years of effort to clear the Back 
Contamination hurdle, why don't we build CAPS in the meantime?

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas

The scientists now believe the combined data warrant a manned mission to Mars 
to retrieve further samples.
The results indicate very strongly that life was once there and... that life 
might still be there, Taylor said. When we say life, we're talking about 
bacteria, single cell primitive life forms, like we have here on Earth.
It'd be underground, we'd have to drill down, so these little rovers that are 
crawling all over the surface would never find it.
Two US-backed rovers are now exploring the red plant and transmitting 
unprecedented images of the barren landscape, but may achieve little else.


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Gilmer

Hi Listees!

I was one of the lucky few to pounce on Michael Cottingham's recent
eBay offerings of West.  I kept a couple of fragments for myself,
and I need to unload the rest.  I have 4 micromounts of West
available, and a copy of the West News from February 26th with
Doug Dawn and the meteor story on the front page.  

The four West micromounts come in a glass vial, which is then 
inside a labelled 1.25 gemjar.  Also included is a copy of the
original specimen card.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/LATEST/west-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/LATEST/west-2.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/LATEST/west-micros.jpg

Refer to the photos.  Two of the photos show the original lot of
fragments I bought and the West Newspaper.  A third photo shows
the individual micromounts I am selling.

Here are the weights for the micros -

1) 23mg (shows metal fleck)
2) 17mg (with some black crust)
3) 12mg (virgin gray matrix, no visible oxidation)
4) 10mg of tiny fragments and dust. (a few metal flecks)

Asking $10 each, which includes shipping to anywhere in the CONUS.
Overseas and Canada are $12 shipped, each.

PayPal preferred, and PayPal only for Canadian or Overseas buyers.

The West News is complete and in excellent condition with a single
crease from being folded.  The meteorite story continues on the
inside.  Asking $20 shipped in a Priority Envelope in the CONUS,
and $26 Canada or Overseas.  Buyer the newspaper with one of
the micromounts above and get both for $25 shipped. ($30 Canada/Overseas)

I also have the following micromounts for $5 each. (or $7 as marked)

Pallasovka - 11 grams of weathered fragments and olivine pieces.  Asking $10.
Tulia(a) - 200mg - 3 fragments
Carancas - 90mg of tiny fragments and dust.
Forestburg(a) - 159mg of fragments and dust
NWA 4439 (Carbonaceous CO3.3) - 141mg of small fragments.
Holbrook - 274mg of tiny fragments and dust.
NWA 2634 (Ureilite) - 32mg of small fragments.
Brenham - 281mg of weathered fragments and olivine pieces.
Travis County(b) - 331mg of small fragments.
Dawn(a) - 578mg - small endcut.
Cape York - 127mg of oxidized shale fragments.
Tulia(b) - 138mg of tiny fragments and dust.
Murchison (Carbonaceous CM2) - 25mg of small fragments. Asking $7

Contact me offlist to order or inquire - m...@galactic-stone.com

Thanks for looking and clear skies! :)

MikeG

.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Find a Falling Star for $35

2009-03-06 Thread Mr EMan

Hello Michael(s),

Find a Falling Star may be in less demand now days but within the past 10 
years it was listed on eBay and sold for as little as $50 and upwards of $225 
in the for what it is worth flashback trivia moment $35 is consistent with 
the going low end AEAIK.  Amazon is a broker and so you may find the the very 
same specific copy by a specific seller listed for different prices on 
different broker sites. 

If one can find it cheaper, then go for it-- IF content alone is what one is 
interested in. FAFS is not just a book but remains an obligatory piece of 
meteorite history and condition does affect value. For ole cantankerous me, I'd 
be hesitant to quibble the semantics of $5 in the whole scheme of things, 
especially when arriving to stake out my spot on the list under the premise 
of Snipe not lest ye be sniped.  

Heck!  lets do quibble semantics... te he he.  We all know that when we hit 
rock bottom it means all the easy excavating has taken place and there is yet 
more under the bedrock top and soil bottom( hence the cliche` Rock Bottom)  
Whilst more may be found under rock bottom, the easy to locate has pretty much 
been exhausted. This is to illustrate that a rock bottom price is the lowest 
practical price and not necessarily the absolute low price.

Welcome to the List!

 Elton

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Michael Bross elemen...@peconic.net wrote:

 From: Michael Bross elemen...@peconic.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Find a Falling Star for $35
 To: michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 12:59 PM
 hello Mike and list members
 
 I am new to this list and will present myself soon (waiting
 for the West craze to cool down :))
 Being a new meteorite passionate, I am interested in this
 book. Doing a quick search, Amazon seems to offer that same book
 (@ $33.98) with same description: lots of marks and wear, published in 1976.
 http://www.amazon.com/Find-Falling-Star-H-Nininger/dp/083972229X
 
 Not being an original edition (1972), why do you say the
 price is rock bottom ?
 On Amazon they have about 10 books starting at $ 28 and
 collectibles for $200-300
 
 Please, don't take this email as aggressive, I am just
 trying to get more information.
 
 Thanks !
 Great day to everyone
 
 Michael Bross

   Hi List!
  I was browsing the used book titles at Barnes and Noble
 online,and I noticed they have a copy of Nininger's Find a
 Falling Star for only $33 plus ship.  It's an ex-library book, and
 the condition might not be great, but the price is rock bottom.
 
http://search.barnesandnoble.c/used/product.asp?EAN=2692675820359Itm=1
 
  I'm not currently in the market (wife would kill me),
 but I thought someone else here might want in on this bargain.
 
  Clear skies!
 
  MikeG 
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