Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread ke...@lobstershack.com
Hi Eric, I looked briefly at the article and then at the webpage. I know that I have to go back and look at things a little more to see if it's actual scientific evidence or if it's more of a face on mars kind of webpage... Since I haven't seen any mention of it in any other news media I'm a

Re: [meteorite-list] Help - Displaying flanged button tektites (B. Schroeder)

2010-08-21 Thread BRIAN SCHROEDER
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Museum update - call for help

2010-08-21 Thread Greg Catterton
Thanks for the emails and donations so far. Once I get the doors open, I will be asking those who offered advertising for the help that has been kindly offered. $100 of the amount needed has been raised up to this point. I forgot to include a link to the site I set up with information on the

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2010-08-21 Thread Jesse Piper
Well The other day I bought a Campo Del Cielo and sent some pics to Gary Fujihara and he said indeed it was a Campo. Well I would like to try and make my first sale here but then again I'm not sure what i should sell it for so I guess just send me offers on it. I will say there is some small

[meteorite-list] Fw: Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Charles O'Dale
Apparently this is a hoax, sorry about that guys !!  : ( Chuck http://ottawa-rasc.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Odale-Articles - Forwarded Message From: Charles O'Dale codale0...@rogers.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 8:35:04 AM Subject:

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2010-08-21 Thread Shawn Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Perhaps... But, are you referring to the Orgueil meteorite claim of fossilized bacteria, Murchison, or the whole claim of fossilized microbial life in meteorites all together? We already know that microbial life can survive in space. The question is for how long. The conclusion sounds

Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
I wholeheartedly agree Mike! Resembling something like fossilized bacteria is completely different than being proof of life. I'm curious how many of us meteorite addicts are actually believers in extraterrestrial life, or at the very least are open to the possibility. Regards, Eric On

Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:25:30 -0700, you wrote: I'm curious how many of us meteorite addicts are actually believers in extraterrestrial life, or at the very least are open to the possibility. Anyone who is not open to the possibility of exterrestrial life-- meaning anyone who is convinced that

Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Adam Hupe
Martian meteorite NWA 998 displays an abundance of these fossils and is proving to be much richer than ALH84001: If the scientific community ever completely embraces the idea, then we will witness another surge in the importance they represent. In any case, all of the talk of Martian fossils

Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Ok, I'll go with that first part... But why do you doubt fossilized microbes in carbonaceous meteorites? Eric On 8/21/2010 2:02 PM, Darren Garrison wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:25:30 -0700, you wrote: I'm curious how many of us meteorite addicts are actually believers in

Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:26:31 -0700, you wrote: Ok, I'll go with that first part... But why do you doubt fossilized microbes in carbonaceous meteorites? One, because the report so far utterly lacks the extreme degree of scientific rigor needed for such an extreme story and two, because it flies

Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Adam, I think eventually the scientific community will embrace it. A large collection of highly intelligent minds think rather slowly apparently. ;) Patience... Historically there's a process of belief vs proof and that helps hypothesis and theory to evolves into self evident fact.. At

Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:39:48 -0700, you wrote: ;) Patience... Historically there's a process of belief vs proof and that helps hypothesis and theory to evolves into self evident fact.. At first people are not receptive and it gets ignored, then they argue against it, then it becomes plausible,

Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Ted Bunch
Dear Darren and Eric - having worked on ALH 84001 years ago and having been involved in research/management of the NASA -AMES Exobiology Program, I am a skeptic of fossil life in 84001 or any other Martian meteorite recovered to date. However, the finding of water on Mars and the recent discovery

Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
If one looks hard enough at anything with a skeptical mind ambiguity will present itself in all it's subjective glory. I understand about contamination with regard to meteorites falling, then sitting for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years before their discovery. I also admit that

[meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Lars Zielke
Hi all My first post here on this excellent list. I think it's strange that the only place I can find anything about Hoovers presentation is on the panspermia web-site. From my fast google schearch it seems that Richard Hoover and the team is very respectable, so why only an article on what

Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:15:18 -0700, you wrote: If one looks hard enough at anything with a skeptical mind ambiguity will present itself in all it's subjective glory. As does confirmation bias. Are you REALLY suggesting that people shouldn't look at information skeptically and point out flaws

Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Of course not, as evidenced by my comment.. ...I'm not arguing against doubt. I'm for it to an extent. But we should temper doubt with logic...' My point was that we can reduce the amount of doubt by proper sampling and testing. That in turn frees the mind to be open to more radical

Re: [meteorite-list] Announcement: Digital Edition is FREE

2010-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
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[meteorite-list] The Orgueil Meteorite - was Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Charles O'Dale
Explains the Orgueil Meteorite organic content. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/orgueil.html Still looking for evidence for - Cyanobacterial filaments in the Murchison - Chuck __ Visit the Archives at

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2010-08-21 Thread Rob Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Richard Kowalski
Lars, The abstract of Richard Hoover's lecture at SPIE was entitled Comets, Carbonaceous Meteorites, and the Origin of the Biosphere In this abstract he states in part Field Emission Scanning Electron Microscope (FESEM) studies carried out during the past several years on freshly fractured

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2010-08-21 Thread Michael Johnson
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Eric, Richard, List, The website panspermia.org is funded by a private organization, a one-man foundation. It has donated chiefly to Cardiff University in Wales and Chandra Wickramasinghe's research. The SPIE conference schedule is here:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Museum update - call for help

2010-08-21 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi Greg, I admire your passion to get this museum up and running, but do you have a real financial plan thought out, written up and ready to execute? This almost seems like when I was 8 years old and I wanted to start a museum with dinosaur models in it. This doesn't sound financially sound and

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Museum update - call for help

2010-08-21 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi Greg, I'm sorry, I didn't see the sentence about all of the meteorites at the museum will be from your personal collection. That does make it easier for you (a lot less liability). I hope it all goes well! Bob Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem

Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?

2010-08-21 Thread Richard Kowalski
Sterling. Thank you for correcting me. I see the mistake I made was quoting a lecture by Hoover listed on the SPIE website as a presentation at this conference. It was not as you point out, given at this conference. The page I mistakenly quoted can be found here: http://spie.org/x17397.xml

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