Interesting article by Kelly Beatty at ST, especially in light of Shawn's
recent pop quiz about the similar Yarkovsky and related second order YORP
effects.
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/119226989.html
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Martin, dealers, list, highly estimated con-junkies , -
may be one year ago I wrote an email to contact the italian members of the
Gebel Kamil expedition. I congratulated them to their splendid discovery,
underlined how much this meteorite fascinates me and asked, if there'd be
any new insights
Hello Eric and Listers
Eric good post on the NYT Black market trading of meteorites. Really NYT? To
me, the word Black Market means drugs, weapons, money laundering, poaching and
so on. But meteorites, come on. I have to say that if the NYT can associate
meteorites with the Black Market they
The Saga continues,
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/04/in-strewnfield-5apr2011.html
- Tokio
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Hi folks,
has anyone got a valid email address of Doug Dawn?
I haven´t heard from this old time list member and
very friendly and knowledgable guy for a real long
time now...
Alex
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Since I am quoted in this article, here’s my reaction to it. The
reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about
the Gebel Kamil crater in Egypt and the legal meteorite trade (NWA)
based primarily in Morocco. During the interview with him I spent a
fair amount of time trying
Hello Carl,
thank you for giving us your view on the matter. What you said explains the
biased nature of the NYT article.
One must ask the question why the reporter was so biased or what, or who, made
him write this article.
Instead of investigating an issue he apparently had a preconceived
If it were me, I would not give the New York Times the time of day if asked to
do an interview. They have already proven themselves unworthy of accurately
reporting on meteorites. We do not need their input on NWA meteorites or any
others as they appear already biased by a member of the
Thanks a bunch, Professor Agee, for your quick personal reaction, this is well
appreciated.
Unfortunately, the public perception with regards to the content of such an
article in an internationally well known press medium like NYT will possibly
result in a negative inclination towards the
Hi Adam, Listees, and Horrified Onlookers,
I think a couple of list-members spoke to the scientist you are
referring to, and he was misquoted or what he said was taken out of
context. It seems to me that the author of the article has an agenda
of some sort and he is looking for a dramatic story
Ha!!!
http://kuerzer.de/NYTscandal
Martin
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Do you see his demonic eyes, his greedy, grabbing hand and his cruel mouth...
He doesn't care about science or scientific progress, he's simply a greedy,
evil-minded collector
who wants to HAVE IT ;-)
Martin (another one)
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Martin Altmann
Ha! He's a *whisper* meteorite-fondler. Catch them young and who knows what
direction it will take; heaven forbid he might become a ...a... SCIENTIST!
Best!
Tracy Latimer (presently down with flu)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:38:07 +0200
From:
Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite!
http://themeteoritesite.com/CaptainChondrite.jpg
If he can't catch this perpetrator, nobody can!
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Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite!
http://themeteoritesite.com/CaptainChondrite.jpg
If he can't
Hi all,
I cannot recall seeing accurate reporting on anything scientific in the Lame
Street Media. And that defintely includes that paragon of duplicity, The New
York Times. The news media in this country no longer employs experts on such
complex subjects as astronomy. Instead, they instruct
Hi again list.I have decided to put up a few more meteorites forsale.And as
usual free shipping.
1.GAO oriented 33 gram beauty w/flow lines and 100% lipping
$125.00
2.oum drega 23 gram complete
Yes he's the top agent of MIT (Meteorite Intelligent Team) of Oystralia.
Look here the meteorite leader Van Be celebrates the classification of the
8th ordinary chondrite of Oystralia in our millennium!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1pa3rgVUTQ
Ha!
Edmondo Martino
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If someone could please forward me Geoff Cintron's email Offlist, I would be
very grateful.
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I am dismayed at the least after reading the diatribe from the NYT and also
want to respond to various things quoted there and on the met-list in general.
With regards to Gebel Kamil, so many people in the world and on this list are
so fast to take any grain of something said and immediately
Thanks Carl.
Kinda what I suspected. The latest film crew I entertained at the telescope
seemed nice enough, until after we finished up and were heading home when Sara
my fiancee complained about how they were treating her. I was completely
unaware of what was going on off camera.
I told her
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:13:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00), you wrote:
Hi all,
I cannot recall seeing accurate reporting on anything scientific in the Lame
Street Media.
Absolutely.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1623
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The more letters to the editor that are written, the more likely it is
for one to be published:
Here's the instructions (Has to be done within 7 days of the article
and keep it under 150 words!):
http://www.nytimes.com/content/help/site/editorial/letters/letters.html?ref=letters
Here's advice on
April 5, 2011
Dwayne C. Brown
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1726
dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov
William Jeffs
Johnson Space Center, Houston
281-483-5111
william.p.je...@nasa.gov
RELEASE: 11-098
SCIENTISTS FIND NEW TYPE OF MINERAL IN HISTORIC METEORITE
HOUSTON -- NASA and co-researchers
Those are the truest words I have read to date about the subject.
Mike has been to Egypt.
Mike has found meteorites.
Mike has sold meteorites.
Mike has first-hand knowledge of meteorite law.
The author of the NYT article has done none of the above.
My stepdaughter just brought home a paper
All sales of Wassonite-bearing meteorites are hereby suspended until
further notice. ;)
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MESSENGER Mission News
April 4, 2011
MESSENGER Kicks Off Yearlong Campaign of Mercury Science
This afternoon, MESSENGER began its yearlong science campaign to
understand the innermost planet. The spacecraft will fly around Mercury
700
Interesting
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Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
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All sales of Wassonite-bearing meteorites are hereby suspended until
further notice. ;)
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http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26603/
Astronomers Calculate Comet's Orbit Using Amateur Images From The Web
The Physics arXiv Blog
April 4, 2011
Amateur astrophotographs posted online represent a massive untapped
resource. Now astronomers have worked out how to mine it
For a short
Nice image of Wassonite. And congrats to John Wasson.
Carl
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April 5, 2011
Dwayne C. Brown
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1726
dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov
William Jeffs
Johnson Space
List:
I have always wondered why there are minerals found on meteorites (asteroids)
and not on earth (terrestrial) rocks. Is it the less gravity? Is it the lack
of Oxygen? Or some other factors.
Really interesting stuff.
Greg S.
From:
This new mineral got me into trouble. My fiancee, Zann saw me looking at it and
asked why I did not have the decency to try and hide the fact that I was
looking
at this type of stuff on the internet. I couldn't understand what she was
talking about until she left the room in disgust. I
It is indeed the small amount of free oxygen that creates the conditions for
some of the minerals unique to enstatite meteorites to form. These include
a lot of sulfides that would be unstable on Earth. Minerals like oldhamite
(CaS) are highly unstable in the presence of water. Wassonite
I was driving home on Friday when a guy called and identified himself as a
reporter from the NY Times. He said he talked to this scientist (I didn't
catch the name) who thought collectors were bad for meteorite studies and then
he said he talked to Anne Black and she said that was B***
List,
I am a southern California native, born, bred and raised. I have been
to the east coast once for a Washington, D.C. visit. I have the
opportunity to spend the weekend in New York city in July and I would
like some recommendations on where to see some fantastic meteorite
displays. I think
American Museum of Natural History
http://www.amnh.org/
The Macovich Collection: Curated by Darryl Pitt
http://www.macovich.com/
Those are two off the top of my head.
Regards,
Eric
On 4/5/2011 2:39 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote:
List,
I am a southern California native, born, bred and raised.
Sorry for repost but as usual my post seems not to be in my digest!
-d-
Hi folks,
Got some micros to go - much appreciated!
DaG 669
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Hello again list.As well as the 5 I mentioned before,here are a few more.I will
also pay shipping anywhere in the world.I have pics of most everything if
interested off-list please.So here we go:
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Dear List,
Here is a very special opportunity!
On April 16th, 2011, we are filming an auction as a pilot for an
auction show for ABC, with host Ty Pennington, entitled The Great Big
American Auction. We have several auction items but the main object
of interest to the list is the main mass of
I have been silent on this list too long. I know that Anne Black, John
Kashuba,
Myself and Many, Many others on this list have lent and or donated material to
those poor underfunded researchers that have led to significant new findings
and
understandings of planetary mineralogy. Without
Hi everyone,
Besides the terrible reporting and obvious bias, I was curious about
the meteorite blogger in the article who said he/she was feeling
guilty. What?? We have no idea who this is or if that person exists. I
find it amazing the editor let that go through.
Bob
Very good catch on the Bob! I can't believe I missed that. How in the
world did the editor let that quote slide without a source? I wonder if
it was said at all.
Regards,
Eric
On 4/5/2011 5:20 PM, Bob King wrote:
Hi everyone,
Besides the terrible reporting and obvious bias, I was curious
Hi Michael,
I certainly understand where you're coming from, we get tons of
potential meteor inquiries every week as well.
As for why this Kansas chondrite; it was offered to us at the right
time, right place, and had a good backstory.
Keep in mind that most of our clients are not specifically
Hi Bob and List,
It's not a blogger or blog, as the article said. It's a message
board. The person who uttered the quote is a real person. I've been
a member of that astronomy message board for years before I discovered
meteorites (via Bob!). As I stated in the original message board
thread,
Hi,
The blog in question is the Cloudy Nights Space Rocks forum. The
quote is from Lars Zielke.
Thanks,
Peter Scherff
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USA
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:25
Mike, You said at the time... what was the date on that original post?
And how many comments were made afterward in that forum thread? Got a link?
Eric
On 4/5/2011 5:34 PM, Michael Gilmer wrote:
Hi Bob and List,
It's not a blogger or blog, as the article said. It's a message
board. The
Hi Eric and list,
Here's the thread:
http://tinyurl.com/3kbowog
Bob
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
Mike, You said at the time... what was the date on that original post? And
how many comments were made afterward in that forum thread? Got a link?
Thanks Bob for the link!
Just so everyone on the Met-List knows, because some may not follow this
thread or topic on other forums, I think Met-List members who won't
click the link to view this very long thread/topic would be interested
to know that the person who said that quote in the NYT
Ditto, Jim (and Adam).
Dave
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:49 PM
To: Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] BS In
Hi list members... I'm looking for a copy of yesterday's NYT paper this
article is in.
A version of this article appeared in print on April 5, 2011, on page
D1 of the New York edition.
Please email me if you might have a copy of this NYT newspaper. Cash now
via Paypal!
Regards,
Eric
Eric,
Instead of a paper copy, how about a link to the artucle?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?scp=1sq=meteoritesst=cse
Ed
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 05,
This story is being reposted and repeated all over Facebook today. On
two occasions today, I have had to post comments refuting the story.
This idiot who wrote that article should be sued for libel.
Best regards,
MikeG
PS - is the author of the article related to those Pelissons?
Hi Sterling,
Thank you for your reply. You confirmed what I thought was the correct
information. She really doesn't know what she is talking about at all.
When I suggested it was Sikhote-Alin, she told me no, SA contains olivine
and that I was mistaken. I tried one last time to tell her
Sales of Tunguska meteorites and olivine-bearing Sikhotes are
suspended until further notice
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G'Day Everyone
With the little time I have, I've been watching this thread develop.
Personally, I feel fuel has been added to the fire. The constant hits on
the NYT site will add to a fever pitch for those involved and I can see
a follow up developing because of so much interest. They aren't going
Hi Johnno,
You are correct sir. The NYT is not going to post a rebuttal and they
are not going to vett their material or sources. The National
Enquirer or the Weekly World News have more journalistic integrity.
Sadly, many laypeople who don't know better are going to read this
piece of flotsam
Thanks Ed, I've read the article online, I just want a paper.
For posterity.
Eric
On 4/5/2011 7:27 PM, Ed Deckert wrote:
Eric,
Instead of a paper copy, how about a link to the artucle?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?scp=1sq=meteoritesst=cse
Ed
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Please don't suspend the sale of complete stranded Alien DNA. The last ones
that i planted have produced 6ft. black roses and they are oozing 4 Kg's,
per hour, of Ibitira.
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To: Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com
Cc:
Geez, only 6 ft black roses??? And only 4Kgs per hour of Ibitira?
I'm getting 18 ft black roses and 24 Kgs per hour of Ibitira, and that's on
a bad day!
;-)
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To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
Cc:
Dear List, A large green meteor in California 5APR2011. Widely seen with
several witnesses.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/04/california-large-green-meteor-fireball.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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