[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: SaW 005 http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD) 3,5 kilos Canyon Diablo SOLD!!
Thanks !! Jan Holland IMCA 9833 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay: great meteorite THIN SECTIONS (Chondrite-ung!, CM2, URE, PACH, E ACH-ung, AUB, L3, CV3) and METEORITES (EUC, WIN, BRA, CM2, CK3, ...).
Hello All, on ebay, I have 10 very nice high quality meteorite thin sections for sale and in addition a couple of great meteorites, all ending in about 36 hours. The thin sections were made by a very experienced professional thin section maker on professional equipment. Please have a look: http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= Thank you, Peter Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 Bern, Switzerland http://www.marmet-meteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay sales (Crusted Portales Valley, NWA 2968 Dunite, Huaytiquina Hexahedrite, NWA 6166 unpaired Anomalous-Plessitic...)
Hello, ending very very soon, ebay sales, most starting 0.01$ as all weeks : http://www.ebay.com/sch/wwmeteorites-25/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 Fabien __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
Hi List, I'm pleased to invite you to the conference and exhibition for the bicentenary of the fall of the meteorite of Toulouse, april 10th 1812. This event is the materialization of 2 1/2 year of historical and scientific researches. It benefited from the support of the Museum of Toulouse (SW France). Specimens from European and American collections will be shown to the public. I believe this is the first time that the main samples of a fall will be reunited close to their place of fall, 200 years later. http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2373/invitationmtoritedetoul.jpg J'ai le plaisir de vous inviter à la conférence et à l'exposition qui auront lieu au Muséum de Toulouse, en célébration du bicentenaire de la chute de la météorite dite de Toulouse, le 10 avril 1812. Cet évènement est la concrétisation de deux ans et demi de recherches historiques et scientifiques. Il est le fruit de la collaboration entre l'auteur et le Muséum de Toulouse et a bénéficié de l'apport de dizaines de contributeurs. Fait exceptionnel: les principaux spécimens de la météorite de Toulouse, en provenance d'Europe et d'Amérique, seront de retour à Toulouse pour y être montrés au public! R. Mathieu geologist PS. I'm sorry but I may not be able to answer comments or questions for this week during which I'll be travelling in Morocco. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )
I think collectors might be confusing COAs with ID cards. We are lucky that ID cards suffice in the meteorite market most of the time. As far as I know, nobody has passed off counterfeit ID cards from my collection yet. This would be like poking a stick into a beehive as far as I am concerned. The only COAs I have provided that were printed by myself were for crumbs or cutting dust encased in laminated collectors cards. The pieces were so small that I felt collectors would appreciate a little more assurance. They are also serialized with the certification statement on the back. The only other COAs I have provided came with some NWA 5000 specimens. These COAs came from an immensely-qualified independent grader. I had no input whatsoever on how individual specimens would be graded since many factors were independently taken into account. I have never graded any specimens myself. I have however provided comments when I feel a special feature needs to be pointed out. The grades that came on my ID cards were provided by researchers approved by the Meteoritical Society's Nomenclature Committee and can be referenced in the Bulletin. Despite popular belief, there are a few errors in the Bulletin so no system is perfect. I hope this clears things up, Kind Regards, Adam From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's ) Hi Mike, Adam, and List, Interesting opinions. You guys touched on a major issue in the Meteorite Community, and there are parts of your statements I don't agree with. I would really like to share how I feel about the subject. First of all Mike you said, I thought this was laughable for obvious reasons and a man who runs an auction house should know that 99% of COA's are not worth the paper they are printed on. I can go outside, grab a rock from my driveway, and print up an official-looking COA for it. Mike with all due respect, I don't agree with this. Why would you try to knock a dealers reputation? For example a meteorite sold by Mike Farmer or Greg Hupe is worth more than a meteorite that is sold without any provenance or COA. For example lets say unknown dealer X is selling a Howardite, and well known dealer Y is selling the same Howardite. Who do you think is going to realize a higher price? The well know dealer. Now if that meteorite losses it's COA from the dealer who sold it, what happens? Usually the meteorite immediately looses value, how can you explain this if the COA is not worth the paper it's printed on? For example a meteorite said to be from from the Bob Hagg collection without Bob's paperwork has a much lower value than a meteorite from the Bob Hagg collection with his COA right? So please extrapolate exactly what you mean and how you come to this conclusion. I strongly disagree with your opinion. Much of the value in meteorites is locked up in the provenance and not the meteorite itself in my opinion. I think what is much too overlooked is that a meteorite dealers reputation is the most important factor in meteorite prices. That includes the following they create, the friends they make, impressions that collectors get all translate into value and that it why most collectors demand individual COA's be issued with each meteorite sold. I think this makes a lot of sense because the process it takes to build a good reputation takes years. The piece of paper adds value. Of course a paper from Hagg is worth more than a COA from Joe Schmo. But to say the paper has no value is the most insane thing I ever heard. How else would you know if your buying pedigree meteorites from dealers who stand for integrity, honor and strive to provide the customer the best experience. A lot of new comers think that the value is in the meteorite itself, and then when they try to sell them, they are greatly let down and wonder why their meteorites don't fetch the same price that the other more well known dealers get all day long. Because it comes down to more than just the meteorite itself and taking it for face value. You fail to consider the amount of friends the advanced dealers had made over the years, the networking they have done and the awareness they have created about their meteorite and the way they are presented. And most importantly the way they make their customers feel is the most important factor to me. Is it just a roughly cut rock, sloppily thrown in a bag with a sharpie marking? OR IS IT A EXPERIENCE FOR THE CUSTOMER? The experience adds value, making the customer feel good is an integral part of any business, even meteorite dealing. The COA and provenance conveys that feeling to the customer. It makes them say WOW! I can't wait to see what this dealer has to offer me next. It gives them something to hold
[meteorite-list] **AD** New Arizona IMB, Another New Az Meteorite, CV-3, Tissint, SaW 005 H-Metal, Individual Franco's..
Hello List, I have some auctions ending tomorrow, two of which are new meteorites that I found recently. Both are unclassified until more field work is completed. The slice of the new, probable IMB was sold a couple weeks ago but due to a personal situation the buyer was unable to follow through with the purchase. I didn't push the issue and we mutually cancelled the transaction. If you were one of the several list members that were bidding on this incredible slice and didn't win, here's a second chance! Even if you're not interested in bidding you should have a look at this interesting piece. http://www.ebay.com/sch/alienrockfarm/m.html?_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 Happy Hunting! Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )
Yes Adam, provenance, COA, and ID cards can be very different things. Saying I got some specimens from Adam, Greg, or any number of the great people who do the collecting, purchasing, and classifying is never intended as a COA, but, it does assure others that it's not from the driveway, railway, or some cave somewhere. On 3:41:58 pm 03/24/12 Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I think collectors might be confusing COAs with ID cards. We are lucky that ID cards suffice in the meteorite market most of the time. As far as I know, nobody has passed off counterfeit ID cards from my collection yet. This would be like poking a stick into a beehive as far as I am concerned. The only COAs I have provided that were printed by myself were for crumbs or cutting dust encased in laminated collectors cards. The pieces were so small that I felt collectors would appreciate a little more assurance. They are also serialized with the certification statement on the back. The only other COAs I have provided came with some NWA 5000 specimens. These COAs came from an immensely-qualified independent grader. I had no input whatsoever on how individual specimens would be graded since many factors were independently taken into account. I have never graded any specimens myself. I have however provided comments when I feel a special feature needs to be pointed out. The grades that came on my ID cards were provided by researchers approved by the Meteoritical Society's Nomenclature Committee and can be referenced in the Bulletin. Despite popular belief, there are a few errors in the Bulletin so no system is perfect. I hope this clears things up, Kind Regards, Adam From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecen tral.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's ) Hi Mike, Adam, and List, Interesting opinions. You guys touched on a major issue in the Meteorite Community, and there are parts of your statements I don't agree with. I would really like to share how I feel about the subject. First of all Mike you said, I thought this was laughable for obvious reasons and a man who runs an auction house should know that 99% of COA's are not worth the paper they are printed on. I can go outside, grab a rock from my driveway, and print up an official-looking COA for it. Mike with all due respect, I don't agree with this. Why would you try to knock a dealers reputation? For example a meteorite sold by Mike Farmer or Greg Hupe is worth more than a meteorite that is sold without any provenance or COA. For example lets say unknown dealer X is selling a Howardite, and well known dealer Y is selling the same Howardite. Who do you think is going to realize a higher price? The well know dealer. Now if that meteorite losses it's COA from the dealer who sold it, what happens? Usually the meteorite immediately looses value, how can you explain this if the COA is not worth the paper it's printed on? For example a meteorite said to be from from the Bob Hagg collection without Bob's paperwork has a much lower value than a meteorite from the Bob Hagg collection with his COA right? So please extrapolate exactly what you mean and how you come to this conclusion. I strongly disagree with your opinion. Much of the value in meteorites is locked up in the provenance and not the meteorite itself in my opinion. I think what is much too overlooked is that a meteorite dealers reputation is the most important factor in meteorite prices. That includes the following they create, the friends they make, impressions that collectors get all translate into value and that it why most collectors demand individual COA's be issued with each meteorite sold. I think this makes a lot of sense because the process it takes to build a good reputation takes years. The piece of paper adds value. Of course a paper from Hagg is worth more than a COA from Joe Schmo. But to say the paper has no value is the most insane thing I ever heard. How else would you know if your buying pedigree meteorites from dealers who stand for integrity, honor and strive to provide the customer the best experience. A lot of new comers think that the value is in the meteorite itself, and then when they try to sell them, they are greatly let down and wonder why their meteorites don't fetch the same price that the other more well known dealers get all day long. Because it comes down to more than just the meteorite itself and taking it for face value. You fail to consider the amount of friends the advanced dealers had made over the years, the networking they have done and the awareness they have created about their meteorite and the way they are presented. And most importantly the way they make their customers feel is the most important factor to me. Is it
[meteorite-list] AD New China Witness Fall Xining crusted fragments ending within 24 Hours
Dear lists, Here are the links for 3 groups of Xining meteorite auction on ebay ending within 24 hours. 1. Three pieces weight 3.26g with the crust and shock veins http://www.ebay.com/itm/150781173488?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 2. Three pieces weight 2.93g with the crust and shock veins http://www.ebay.com/itm/150781177939?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 3. Three pieces weight 4.47g with the crust and shock veins http://www.ebay.com/itm/150781179289?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 4. Other Xining meteorite listings http://www.ebay.com/sch/mingdaiqinghuaci/m.html?hash=item231b421ef0item=150781173488pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0_trksid=p4340.l2562 Thanks for looking! Wu IMCA1371 Email: wyh...@163.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Think About Selling my Entire 50mm Sphere Collection
Some of you may remember me from a couple years ago. I have a really odd collection that is only comprised of 50mm Spheres. Back when I started the collection I was really excited about it and I was able to get 19 different meteorite and meteorite related spheres but then it just kind of stalled. It became apparent that it would be very difficult and expensive to expand my collection so I kind of lost interest. Every once in a while I try to find some new material to make another sphere but I'm just not as enthusiastic about the collection as I once was. So I am thinking about selling it. I don't think I would be willing to part it out, it would be a bit to hard to see part of the collection on my shelf so I am pretty sure that the only way I would sell it is if someone bought it as a collection. I was wondering if anyone on this list would mind helping me determine the current value of the entire collection You can view it by pasting this url into your browser http://home.roadrunner.com/~bobadebt/ The images of the spheres on the web site are not photo shopped to look perfectly round, the size and shape are as photographed with slight editing to adjust the lighting and sharpness I don't mind discussing the collection via the list but I would prefer that all appraisals of my collection be sent to me via email to bobad...@ec.rr.com I know that I have not been around for a while and that is due to many factors that I would rather not go into but I hope I am not breaking any new rues by submitting this request. Thanks in advance __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
