[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-07-01 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Allende

Contributed by: Stephan Kambach

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] Canadian Meteorite Research Victim of Budget Cuts

2012-07-01 Thread Paul H.
Canada's cutting-edge meteorite research a 
victim of budget cuts (Funding for research 
tools and instruments from the NSERC will 
end next fall) by Tom Spears, Postmedia 
News, June 2, 2012
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/Canada+cutting+edge+meteorite+research+victim+budget+cuts/6720710/story.html

and the Vancouver Sun at:
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/technology/Canada+cutting+edge+meteorite+research+victim+budget+cuts/6720710/story.html

Is Canada lost in space? by Tom Spears
The Ottawa Citizen, April 29, 2012
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Canada/6538084/story.html

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] AD: Some very scarely seen meteorites on ebay NOW

2012-07-01 Thread meteorhntr

Hey List,

I just got up some really rare, and some never seen on the market meteorites on 
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or two for the ones that don't sell than to do this round in a Reverse Auction 
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[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER AND WINNER :)

2012-07-01 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers

I would like to thank everyone that submitted their answers for the POP QUIZ.

The question was:

Please tell me the meteorite sample that 
Biot used to compare samples from the L'Aigle meteorite fall in 1803 in France.

Answer:

Barbotan

I would like to congratulate Mal B for being the first to submit the correct 
answer :) and he will be winning a Sutter's Mill meteorite sample.

For those of you that like to read up on historic meteorite falls, I was able 
to obtain  the report done by Biot on the L'Aigle fall and tried to have it 
translated from french to english at google translator and abstracted the 
section the talks about the meteorite sample Biot took with him to L'Aigle. 
Enjoy the read :)

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?



 Before starting my research, I thought it
necessary to classify systematically the facts on which (9)



I ought to direct my comments primarily and accordingly I met in the following
table:



[From the existence of stone-cal weather in the hands of the inhabitants of the
country. / Pes traces or debris that would have been left or caused by the
meteor. [The mineralogical and geological circumstances of the country.
RDU testimony of those who

saw and heard the meteor. ^ From the testimony of those who heard the meteor
without seeing it.

^ From the testimony of those who, being at the scene, sought and obtained
information respecting the existence of the meteor and its effects.


Before leaving, I collected these questions all the information I was able to
procure. I prayed to the citizen Haiiy to kindly enlighten me with his
knowledge of what concerned the mineralogy of the country I was going to go.
The citizen Coquebert Montbret corresponding class, gives me the knowledge
which I needed were on the physical geography of the country. Finally the
citizen Fourcroy was willing to give me a copy of the letters he received the 
L’Aigle avpit relation to the appearance of the meteor.

I left Paris on 7 Messidor, taking with me • a compass, a map of Cassini, and a
sample of the meteoric stone of Barbotan, which had been handed over to the
scene to our colleague Cuvier: I intended to use it as term of comparison, and
see what it originally assigner orient the inhabitants of the canton where you 
disquiet
he was dropped from similar.



But I went not directly in this very place. If the explosion of the meteor had
really been so violent that we annonçoit, we ought to have heard the noise at a
considerable distance. It was therefore consistent with the rules of criticism
to take first information in remote locations, on this extraordinary noise, on
the day and time that we had heard, to follow directions, and I be led by the
testimony until the very spot where it was said that the meteor had exploded. I
was to gather and to a large extent of country, comparable renseignemcns 5
because of the noise and the circumstances of the explosion, the evidence ought
to agree, somewhere they were collected. Besides all stories related to
meteoric masses are preceded their fall by the appearance of a ball of fire. It
was important to know if the meteor of the L’Aigle had been accompanied by the
same circumstances, and it was near the scene of the explosion that I could
make sure.






[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS
Shawn Alan photophlow 
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Hello Listers 

I hope people are staying cool today, 
its a scorcher out in NYC and across the country. 

Today is POP QUIZ 
FRIDAY and here's the name of the game. 

Be the 1st Lister to email me 
off the List with the correct answer and win a free Sutter's Mill meteorite 
micro sample. 

Question: 

Please tell me the meteorite sample that 
Biot used to compare samples from the L'Aigle meteorite fall in 1803 in France. 

Good Luck :) 
Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
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http://www.meteoritefalls.com/   
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Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

2012-07-01 Thread MstrEman
Not taking from what Pete said, lonsdalite isn't a newly  identified
mineral, per se. It has been around a few years but the explanation as
to how both types of crystals formed during entry is bogus.  Boron
nitrate may or may not be formed on exposure to  atmospheric
nitrogen-- but it would only be on the surface and not in the
interior.

  I haven't read the background on boron nitrate's formation
conditions but I can't imagine a scenario that could impart any
nitrogen into the COLD interior during entry. Either way the text for
this report doesn't pass the smell test.

As to lonsdaleite, entry pressures short of cosmic velocity impact
with the ground are not high enough to create this polymorph of
carbon. It is far more probable that lonsdalite is literally burned up
in the presence of atmospheric oxygen as fast as it is uncovered.

Lonsdalite is the mineral form found in carbonados.  Its pentamount
hardness is why drill bit manufacturers had to embed them uncut
directly in the the bit casting. Until the recently found technique
cutting/burning with a laser, there was nothing that could cut them.

Another case of a out of work sports writer moonlighting as a science
writer perhaps?  If this is the researcher's real belief then he is
advocating a whole new arm of physics/chemistry.

Elton

On 6/30/12, pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com
pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com wrote:
 Hello list,
 The implications of these findings are, to say the least, staggering.
 has this been confirmed in other Ureilite meteorites? Such as Novo Urie,

 or others?
 For years, diamonds were the standard of hardness, and now that's
 all out the window
 Pete
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Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

2012-07-01 Thread MstrEman
Errata:   Boron NITRIDE ( BN) not nitrATE (B(NO3)3)--(Bad spell
checker--  Bad, bad!)

On 7/1/12, MstrEman mstre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not taking from what Pete said, lonsdalite isn't a newly  identified
 mineral, per se. It has been around a few years but the explanation as
 to how both types of crystals formed during entry is bogus.  Boron
 nitrate may or may not be formed on exposure to  atmospheric
 nitrogen-- but it would only be on the surface and not in the
 interior.

   I haven't read the background on boron nitrate's formation
 conditions but I can't imagine a scenario that could impart any
 nitrogen into the COLD interior during entry. Either way the text for
 this report doesn't pass the smell test.

 As to lonsdaleite, entry pressures short of cosmic velocity impact
 with the ground are not high enough to create this polymorph of
 carbon. It is far more probable that lonsdalite is literally burned up
 in the presence of atmospheric oxygen as fast as it is uncovered.

 Lonsdalite is the mineral form found in carbonados.  Its pentamount
 hardness is why drill bit manufacturers had to embed them uncut
 directly in the the bit casting. Until the recently found technique
 cutting/burning with a laser, there was nothing that could cut them.

 Another case of a out of work sports writer moonlighting as a science
 writer perhaps?  If this is the researcher's real belief then he is
 advocating a whole new arm of physics/chemistry.

 Elton

 On 6/30/12, pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com
 pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com wrote:
 Hello list,
 The implications of these findings are, to say the least, staggering.
 has this been confirmed in other Ureilite meteorites? Such as Novo Urie,

 or others?
 For years, diamonds were the standard of hardness, and now that's
 all out the window
 Pete

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Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

2012-07-01 Thread Sterling K. Webb

E Man, Pete, List,


Lonsdalite is the mineral form found in carbonados...


Not a mineralogist, even an amateur one, but the
statement that seems to say that carbonados are
made of lonsdaleite:made my nose tickle, so I went
to the consensus source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonado
   Carbonado, commonly known as the Black
Diamond, is a natural polycrystalline diamond
found in alluvial deposits in the Central African
Republic and Brazil.. .No distinctive high-pressure
minerals, including the hexagonal carbon polymorph,
lonsdaleite, have been found as inclusions in
carbonados, although such inclusions might be
expected if carbonados formed by meteorite impact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonsdaleite
   Lonsdaleite occurs as microscopic crystals associated
with diamond in several meteorites: Canyon Diablo,
Kenna, and Allan Hills 77283. It has also been reported
from the Tunguska impact site. It also naturally occurring
in non-bolide diamond placer deposits in the Sakha
Republic. It has also been found in sediments dated to
12,900 years ago, at Lake Cutizeo, in the state of Guanajuato,
Mexico...

What am I missing?


Sterling K. Webb
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From: MstrEman mstre...@gmail.com

To: pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com
Cc: The List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] 
http://phys.org/news184402061.html




Not taking from what Pete said, lonsdalite isn't a newly  identified
mineral, per se. It has been around a few years but the explanation as
to how both types of crystals formed during entry is bogus.  Boron
nitrate may or may not be formed on exposure to  atmospheric
nitrogen-- but it would only be on the surface and not in the
interior.

 I haven't read the background on boron nitrate's formation
conditions but I can't imagine a scenario that could impart any
nitrogen into the COLD interior during entry. Either way the text for
this report doesn't pass the smell test.

As to lonsdaleite, entry pressures short of cosmic velocity impact
with the ground are not high enough to create this polymorph of
carbon. It is far more probable that lonsdalite is literally burned up
in the presence of atmospheric oxygen as fast as it is uncovered.

Lonsdalite is the mineral form found in carbonados.  Its pentamount
hardness is why drill bit manufacturers had to embed them uncut
directly in the the bit casting. Until the recently found technique
cutting/burning with a laser, there was nothing that could cut them.

Another case of a out of work sports writer moonlighting as a science
writer perhaps?  If this is the researcher's real belief then he is
advocating a whole new arm of physics/chemistry.

Elton

On 6/30/12, pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com
pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com wrote:

Hello list,
The implications of these findings are, to say the least, staggering.
has this been confirmed in other Ureilite meteorites? Such as Novo 
Urie,


or others?
For years, diamonds were the standard of hardness, and now that's
all out the window
Pete

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[meteorite-list] AD: 24 Hour Auction Run and Nice Sale * Thanks

2012-07-01 Thread michael cottingham
Hello,

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[meteorite-list] July 2012 Monthly Updates now up!!

2012-07-01 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List and hope all of your are keeping cool with the hot temps most of the 
country are experiencing! My monthly July 2012 updates on my Website are now 
up.

*
One point of interest is The Black Hole Mystery Video of the Month called 
Deadly Comets and Meteors by the History Channel. This video is absolutely 
incredible and covers a bit on meteorites as well. Trust me it is worth 
watching and very educational and can be found by clicking the link below:

*
http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/secret_video.html
*
July 2012 Cosmic Treasure of the Month is also posted, sent in from a
collector here in the United States showing off his Favorite Meteorite
Piece
http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/monthly_meteorite.html
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Also the Flash from the Past Photo of the Month is up.
http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/astro_met_news_back-up.html
*

Lastly, the Image of the Month is also up.
http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/menu_1.html
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All very educational and for everyone! Hope you all enjoy and have a great
rest of the week and fantastic weekend
ahead!

Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
IMCA #0960 


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