Re: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-13 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello, Dave and the list, when we are talking about human observations, they are allways subjective. Don´t mean yours now...;- Just wondering, if somebody has opportunity to have some data from air force or civilian air radars or weather-service radars, this case should be cleared. Don´t know, how

[meteorite-list] Metal detectors

2003-06-13 Thread Deborah Martin
Is there a website that would rate metal detectors for meteoritic research ? I have checked the archives but could not find anything on this topic. Thanks Andre Bordeleau __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mail

Re: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-13 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, If we're talking about Illinois and the Chicago area here, the elevation of Lake Michigan at Chicago is 597 feet. In general, the lay of the land throughout the state is to gently decline to the south. Illinois is essentially flat. The elevation of the Mississippi at St. Louis is 440 feet

Re: [meteorite-list] Fall Statistics

2003-06-13 Thread chris sharp
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fall Statistics | Lars inquired: | | > I was looking for the statistic numbers for meteoritefalls | > over land and how many should in fact (statisticly

[meteorite-list] AD: Park Forest Newspaper April 27 + bargains

2003-06-13 Thread MeteorHntr
Hello List, While on one of my trips up to the strewnfield, on April 27, there was an article in "The Star" Newspaper (you just gotta love that name!) page A-4 about the incident with Mike Farmer, the Park Forest Police Department and the Winslow Street specimen Mike bought. Unlike the other pape

Re: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Steve, Mike and list, That 7000 foot value is for the very bottom layer (I verified with the NWS that my understanding of the term cloud ceiling height did in fact mean the altitude of the visible bottom of the cloud deck), if there was indeed more than one layer, and again that number, for

Re: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-13 Thread Michael Farmer
there is no possibility that the fireball extuinguished at that low level. It was bright enough to iluminate through the thin cloud layer. Many parts of the country are higher than 7000 feet. If that were the case, then many meteorites would indeed set grandpa's haybales on fire! Mike Farme

Re: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-13 Thread MeteorHntr
Dave Johnson wrote: I was told that it was 7000 (seven thousand) feet. So, the upper limit for when the fireball extinguished is 7000 feet. Hello Dave and list, Wow, that seems very low, too low from what I have always heard.  Could there have been more than one layer of clouds? Ste

RE: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello List, I have some interesting information regarding this thread. I saw the Park Forest meteor just after it came below the cloud deck (the Chicago area was overcast at the time), and the main fireball and 3 fragments extinguished about 1 second after I spotted it. I just got off the phone w

[meteorite-list] How Many Meteorites Fall?

2003-06-13 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Dear List, This is that post on fall rates that Rob Matson referred to. I was thinking about it again, because of Park Forest and the hits on houses and cars. I had predicted that we would have at least one more meteorite hit on a car in the two decades since the last one (1992), and now in ju

Re: [meteorite-list] Ot ebay reporting?

2003-06-13 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, You will note that nowhere in her listing does the seller claim that she is selling elephant ivory, only "ivory." Ivory, of course, is any mammalian tooth that's big enough to bother with. Since these pieces are 34mm in diameter, it could be any critter with teeth that big. The sale o

Fw: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread rockhoundm
- Original Message - From: "rockhoundm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Hi Michael, Jeff and all > > Since I read the first e-mail I've been searching and there is

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Dave Schultz
Jeff said... "There are other meteorites with > similar "grandfathered" names, e.g.. Lutschaunig's > Stone, Holland's Store, > and my favorite, Slaghek's Iron." Now comes Big Steve`s post about if there are any of these meteorites out there for sale or trade??? Just a little friendly

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread LITIG8NSHARK
Good evening Jeff, and All, Just wondered, if I owned a funeral parlor and a meteorite crashed into it, might the meteorite be given the name "Martyn's Mortuary"?   LOL Have a great evening Ya'll. Paul In a message dated 6/13/2003 7:15:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sor

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Jeff Grossman
Sorry to disappoint you, but Joel's Iron was named long before there was a NomCom. This name would indeed violate the modern Guidelines for Meteorite Nomenclature had it been found recently. There are other meteorites with similar "grandfathered" names, e.g.. Lutschaunig's Stone, Holland's Sto

[Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites]

2003-06-13 Thread David Weir
Hi List, On hindsight, it seems Joel's Iron was never submitted to the NomCom since it was found in 1858, but it was studied by Buchwald, and later by Wasson & Canut de Bon, which establishes this name as authoritative just the same. David __ Hey Mike, Don'

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello Again list, I am still confused about this line; "So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it." Well then, a thin section, endcut, part slice or full slice is OK, just not a fragment? Please keep this in mind when buying this meteorite! Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread David Weir
Hey Mike, Don't worry too much about the name. Heck, it might just as well have been named Mike's Chondrite, which would be consistent with the NomCom's acceptance of the name Joel's Iron from Chile. David > There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. _

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Jeff Grossman
Mike, The Meteoritical Society is not an authority on geographic names. The NomCom does the best it can in approving names for meteorites based on geographic names, but mistakes do get made. We often have to rely on people with local knowledge of the find area (or the submitter of the meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Michael Farmer
Wow, judge, juror, head of the Meteoritical Society, and God? Who died and made you the head honcho? This is my meteorite, it was legally aquired in the United States. Chaco or yourself have no claim to it. O te puedo escribir en espanol si prefieres? The meteorite is named Pitino, there is a place

[meteorite-list] Fall/find statistics revisited

2003-06-13 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All, Lars asked about statistical numbers of meteorite falls over land (i.e. # of expected meteorites per square kilometer), and as Bernd Pauli indicated, this is a thread that comes up from time to time on this list. Bernd no doubt forwarded a good number of these posts to Lars directly, but

[meteorite-list] Dinosaur-Era Forest Fires Studied - Possible Link To Manson Impact Crater

2003-06-13 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2003/06/13/build/wyoming/32-old-fire.inc Dinosaur-era forest fires studied By MIKE STARK Billings Gazette (Wyoming) June 13, 2003 CODY, Wyo. -- The cracked and arid landscapes of Wyoming had a different look 70 million years ago. An

Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I am confused, again! This letter says; "1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II." Now from this, I would have to guess that if the meteorite is called "Pitino" And there is no

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - June 9-13, 2003

2003-06-13 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES June 9-13, 2003 o Masursky Crater (Released 9 June 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030609a.html o Dalmatian Terrain (Released 10 June 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030610a.html o Destination: Gusev (Released 11 June 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/z

[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Miguel Angel del Buono
Hello, In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. On this matter I have two observations: 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In that case the proposed name for t

[meteorite-list] Fall Statistics

2003-06-13 Thread bernd . pauli
Lars inquired: > I was looking for the statistic numbers for meteoritefalls > over land and how many should in fact (statisticly) lay in > the ground pr square kilometer. Hello Lars and List, We had a similar thread in April of 1998. Unfortunately the respective archive is not accessible any mor

Re: [meteorite-list] What in the heck is this?

2003-06-13 Thread Steve Schoner
Yeah, right... "everyone has always called them meteorites"... That is one of the reasons I get THOUSANDS of "meteorites" sent to my site which are actually meteorwrongs. B-A-S-A-L-T... An igneous rock. That is what these items are. The pacific NW is full of this material. Steve Schoner\AMS

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - June 13, 2003

2003-06-13 Thread Ron Baalke
SPACECRAFT AND EXPENDABLE VEHICLES STATUS REPORT June 13, 2003 George H. Diller Kennedy Space Center 321/867-2468 MISSION: Mars Exploration Rover (MER-A) LAUNCH VEHICLES: Delta II LAUNCH PAD: 17-A LAUNCH DATE: June 10, 2003 The MER-A Delta II launch vehicle carrying the "Spirit" Mars Explorat

[meteorite-list] Statistics .... and hunting for meteorites

2003-06-13 Thread Lars Pedersen
Hi all I know I have seen the numbers somewhere, but I cant find them again .. [anyone knows the feeling ? ;-) ] I was looking for the statistic numbers for meteoritefalls over land - and how many should in fact (statisticly) lay in the ground pr square kilometer. Anyone got the number

Re: [meteorite-list] Ot ebay reporting?

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Miconi
In case the link did not work here is Ebays rule: Ivory - This area is complex, and sellers should consult with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and their state wildlife regulatory agency to ensure that the particular item involved may lawfully be sold. Generally, ivory from African elephants ma

Re: [meteorite-list] Ot ebay reporting?

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Miconi
Tom, I sell antique Ivory all the time. If you want to know if it is allowed and to report it to Ebay if you believe it is not allowed the link is: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-items.html Mark - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-l

[meteorite-list] New Argentine Impact Glasses and Possible Buried Crater Reported.

2003-06-13 Thread Paul Heinrich
A paper reported the existence of 3 new impact glasses and a possibly buried crater from the Pampas of Argentina. The abstract is; Schultz, Peter H., Zarate, M., Hames, W.E., King, J., Heil, C., Koeberl, C., Renne, P.R., and Blasi, A., 2002, Argentine Impact Record. Geological society of Ame

Re: [meteorite-list] What in the heck is this?

2003-06-13 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
oh my Goda nightmare Matteo --- magellon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2179148564 > > Adam, Tom, List, > After asking seller to explain how he knows the > specimen is > "nickel, iron", seller has closed auction. > He said he is goin

Re: [meteorite-list] What in the heck is this?

2003-06-13 Thread magellon
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2179148564 Adam, Tom, List, After asking seller to explain how he knows the specimen is "nickel, iron", seller has closed auction. He said he is going to have it "ANALYSED TO BE SHURE". His explanation was "EVERY ONE HAS ALWAYS CALLED THEM MET

[meteorite-list] RE: Happy Birthday To...

2003-06-13 Thread Yellowengine
PORTALES VALLEY ..WHO IS 5 YEARS OLD TODAY!! A favorite unordinary ordinary chondrite to many of us. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Now lets party!! Have a great weekend everyone! -Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.ne