Re: [meteorite-list] Display Boxes

2003-06-25 Thread PolandMET.com
 Me too!!!
 bigger than 5x5cm is the important part.

 Anne M. Black
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On Mr. Strufe page at http://www.strufe.net/English/ensisheim_3.htm on 3th photo is
Marocans dealer table. On it he have some meteorites in verry nice clear boxes. I ask
about this boxes, and they say, that this can be buyed for example on St. Marie mineral
fair on many sizes. Unfortunatelly he dont give me any address of any seller. Maybe is
there someone who will be on St. Marie next weekend and can find any seller of this 
boxes
?
This will be verrr usefull, and cheaper that Rikers boxes.

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[meteorite-list] OT: Giant Hailstone

2003-06-25 Thread Charlie Devine
Dear list

Don't imagine they get much bigger then this..
http://www.journalstar.com/local.php?story_id=58157

Charlie


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[meteorite-list] nwa 001

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Short and sweet!I am looking for a 25 to 40 gram piece. prefferably a
individual piece,of NWA 001.Please let me know off list.

  steve

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[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - June 19-25, 2003

2003-06-25 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
June 19-25, 2003

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Flows on Olympus Mons (Released 19 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/19/index.html

o Large, Bright Wind Ripples (Released 20 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/20/index.html

o Defrosting Gully Aprons (Released 21 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/21/index.html

o Defrosting Sand Dunes (Released 22 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/22/index.html

o Phobos Over the Martian Limb (Released 23 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/23/index.html

o Crater with Wind Streak (Released 24 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/24/index.html

o Mars 2003 (Released 25 June 2003)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/25/index.html


All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.


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[meteorite-list] Officials Warn Of Fake Meteorites Being Sold

2003-06-25 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=68415

Officials Warn Of Fake Meteorites Being Sold
Seth Muller
Arizona Daily Sun
June 25, 2003

Staff members of the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies 
are warning people about sales of rocks reported as meteorites, which are 
originating from northern Arizona. 

Blane Comeaux with the ASU meteorite program said that he received rock 
samples from Patti Harwood of Eureka, Calif., and she asked for the staff 
to verify the rocks as meteorites. Comeaux said that the samples were not 
from space, but instead a terrestrial, non-valuable rock known as magnetite. 

Comeaux reported that a man from New Mexico also purchased $400 in rocks 
he thought to be meteorites, when in fact they were magnetite rocks. He 
said that both people purchased the rocks from a dealer in the Holbrook area. 

In a phone interview, Harwood said she visited a shop in Holbrook in 
September 2001, and she traded $1,200 worth of fossils she had for two 
supposed meteorites. Recently, she purchased a meteorite with certificate 
of authenticity from a man in California for $300, and noticed a difference 
in appearance. 

She decided to send the suspicious rocks to ASU for authentication, and 
received a letter from ASU with the findings. 

Authorities in the Holbrook area reported that they did not have any 
investigations going on concerning the sales of fake meteorites. 

Comeaux said that meteorites are identified by polishing down a sample and 
looking for reflective nickel-iron specs. He said that magnetite rocks are 
commonly mistaken for meteorites. 

The space rocks have become big business. It's not unusual for a person to 
pay upwards of $15,000 for a meteorite. Comeaux recommends potential buyers 
ask to see a letter or certificate of verification before purchasing one. 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Officials Warn Of Fake Meteorites Being Sold

2003-06-25 Thread Dave Andrews
I believe I know the business and individual(s) that are selling these. 
I was a approached with a bucket full of rocks a year or so ago by this 
person who was in cahoots with a local trading post here in town.  I 
told him that they were NOT meteorites but he insisted that ASU had 
authenticated them.  I told him there is NO way that happened.  Anyway, 
he said he was going to start selling them on eBay and replied that I or 
others better not catch him doing it because there would be a lot of 
trouble in store for him in such a fraudulant scheme.  I had run into 
the fellow a couple of times since, but there was no further mention of 
his meteorites.  

My side of the story in case someone associated me with the story below.

Best,
Dave
Ron Baalke wrote:

http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=68415

Officials Warn Of Fake Meteorites Being Sold
Seth Muller
Arizona Daily Sun
June 25, 2003
Staff members of the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies 
are warning people about sales of rocks reported as meteorites, which are 
originating from northern Arizona. 

Blane Comeaux with the ASU meteorite program said that he received rock 
samples from Patti Harwood of Eureka, Calif., and she asked for the staff 
to verify the rocks as meteorites. Comeaux said that the samples were not 
from space, but instead a terrestrial, non-valuable rock known as magnetite. 

Comeaux reported that a man from New Mexico also purchased $400 in rocks 
he thought to be meteorites, when in fact they were magnetite rocks. He 
said that both people purchased the rocks from a dealer in the Holbrook area. 

In a phone interview, Harwood said she visited a shop in Holbrook in 
September 2001, and she traded $1,200 worth of fossils she had for two 
supposed meteorites. Recently, she purchased a meteorite with certificate 
of authenticity from a man in California for $300, and noticed a difference 
in appearance. 

She decided to send the suspicious rocks to ASU for authentication, and 
received a letter from ASU with the findings. 

Authorities in the Holbrook area reported that they did not have any 
investigations going on concerning the sales of fake meteorites. 

Comeaux said that meteorites are identified by polishing down a sample and 
looking for reflective nickel-iron specs. He said that magnetite rocks are 
commonly mistaken for meteorites. 

The space rocks have become big business. It's not unusual for a person to 
pay upwards of $15,000 for a meteorite. Comeaux recommends potential buyers 
ask to see a letter or certificate of verification before purchasing one. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Officials Warn Of Fake Meteorites Being Sold

2003-06-25 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I am sorry, I know some of you  know this guy.
Comeaux said that meteorites are identified by polishing down a sample and
looking for reflective nickel-iron specs. He said that magnetite rocks are
commonly mistaken for meteorites. 

I have talked to this guy once before. The above, is exactly what  he does
when you  show him an expected meteorite! He checks it with a magnet and if
there is a polished surface, he looks for nickel-iron specks and chondrules.
If it does not pass these three tests,  he hands it back and says it is not
a meteorite, that's it! If you give this guy a weathered achondrite, lunar
or Martian meteorite he will tell you it is not a meteorite I wish some
one would show this guy some real meteorites! I think this poor lady needs a
second opinion!


Thanks, Tom
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 http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=68415

 Officials Warn Of Fake Meteorites Being Sold
 Seth Muller
 Arizona Daily Sun
 June 25, 2003

 Staff members of the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies
 are warning people about sales of rocks reported as meteorites, which are
 originating from northern Arizona.

 Blane Comeaux with the ASU meteorite program said that he received rock
 samples from Patti Harwood of Eureka, Calif., and she asked for the staff
 to verify the rocks as meteorites. Comeaux said that the samples were not
 from space, but instead a terrestrial, non-valuable rock known as
magnetite.

 Comeaux reported that a man from New Mexico also purchased $400 in rocks
 he thought to be meteorites, when in fact they were magnetite rocks. He
 said that both people purchased the rocks from a dealer in the Holbrook
area.

 In a phone interview, Harwood said she visited a shop in Holbrook in
 September 2001, and she traded $1,200 worth of fossils she had for two
 supposed meteorites. Recently, she purchased a meteorite with certificate
 of authenticity from a man in California for $300, and noticed a
difference
 in appearance.

 She decided to send the suspicious rocks to ASU for authentication, and
 received a letter from ASU with the findings.

 Authorities in the Holbrook area reported that they did not have any
 investigations going on concerning the sales of fake meteorites.

 Comeaux said that meteorites are identified by polishing down a sample and
 looking for reflective nickel-iron specs. He said that magnetite rocks are
 commonly mistaken for meteorites.

 The space rocks have become big business. It's not unusual for a person to
 pay upwards of $15,000 for a meteorite. Comeaux recommends potential
buyers
 ask to see a letter or certificate of verification before purchasing one.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Kilabo Vs. Thuathe

2003-06-25 Thread Tom
HUH

Tom

On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 03:05  PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

Thuahte is several thousand miles from thuathe.
Mike Farmer writing from Morocco.
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Hi,
I am sure that this has been discussed before but...
is it not an amazing
coincidence that Kilabo and Thuathe fell so close to
each other, both
temporally and geographically?
Can anyone confirm the classification of these two
stones? I gather that
they were not the same petrological type at all.
Is there a coherent celestial dynamic model for how
this happened other than
just blind coincidence?
H odd.

very best

dave
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[meteorite-list] Thuathe possible exchange?

2003-06-25 Thread PolandMET.com
Hey
I need complete Thuathe met. around 20-30 gram in good price :)) or any exchange for
Zaklodzie or any other material .
Thanks

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[meteorite-list] test test

2003-06-25 Thread Steven Drummond



only a test.


[meteorite-list] Thanks

2003-06-25 Thread Nelson Oakes
List, To those of you who are purchasing the provisional NWA1827,
metal-rich Diogenite, (this a rare meteorite at down to earth prices)
I want to say, Thank you!! Nels

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Price Comparison List - RSVP

2003-06-25 Thread Michael L Blood
Hay all,
Someone used to have a meteorite Price Comparison List
on their site and I had it book marked, but appear to have lost
it. While it couldn't identify quality and various factors influencing
prices, it did provide a range of prices , which is worthy of
consideration.
Can anyone post that URL?
Thanks, Michael


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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Price Comparison List - RSVP

2003-06-25 Thread Dave Johnson
Michael, 

  Is this the site you're thinking of?  

http://www.thomascave.com/Meteorites/Charts/Chart%20Intro.htm

Regards,

Dave Johnson

Hay all,
Someone used to have a meteorite Price
Comparison List
on their site and I had it book marked, but appear to have
lost
it. While it couldn't identify quality and various factors
influencing
prices, it did provide a range of prices , which is worthy
of
consideration.
Can anyone post that URL?
Thanks, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Price Comparison List - RSVP

2003-06-25 Thread David Weir
Hey Michael,

That webpage ceased being updated in January 2001. It can still be
viewed as it was at that time on Doug's Meteorite Express.

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6717/

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Price Comparison List - RSVP

2003-06-25 Thread Michael L Blood
Thanks, David,
But that one is not the one to which I was making reference.
The one I was speaking of listed each meteorite by name, included
classification and a range of prices and abbreviations indicating
the dealers that carried it. It had a black background
Ring any bells for anyone?
Thanks, Michael

on 6/25/03 4:52 PM, David Weir at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Michael,
 
 That webpage ceased being updated in January 2001. It can still be
 viewed as it was at that time on Doug's Meteorite Express.
 
 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6717/
 
 David

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[meteorite-list] NWA 001 AND NWA 002

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi again list.As well as nwa 001 I am also seeking a piece of NWA
002.Please get back to me on who might have a piece I can buy or trade
for.

   steve

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[meteorite-list] Ad - Weekly Rare Material

2003-06-25 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

It is our pleasure to announce another Mesosiderite, NWA 1879 (provisional).
This new Mesosiderite differs from the last Stony-Iron we introduced called
NWA 1878 (provisional).  We posted a couple of images earlier this week
showing beautiful crystal clusters scattered throughout its matrix.  We took
the image of the prepared slice in a way that did not show the metal and
this caused all kinds of wild guesses to come in.  It also generated emails
from some dealers who claim to have some of this material which may be true.

The problem is that we now have three completely different Mesosiderites
from the desert in our inventory.   We know this sounds crazy because of the
rarity of this class but they came from three sources and are completely
different in texture.  When scientists announced none of them were paired
with each other we were even more impressed.  We have been pursuing some of
these for over a year.  A false rumor of a giant Lodranite has been spread
throughout the dealer community causing even more confusion.  Then to top it
off, a metal-rich Diogenite has been found that closely resembles a
Mesosiderite.  It is our belief that the metal-rich Diogenite is being
confused with a Mesosiderite or a Lodranite in the field.  Some are even try
to sell it as a Lodranite in Morocco.  As far as we know only one Lodranite
has ever been found in the Sahara.  We know this because we have it in our
inventory, its find location has been kept very secret, it came directly
from a village not a middleman, no other laboratories have reported coming
across one and it is awaiting O-Isotope testing.  It looks nothing like a
Mesosiderite.  The only comments we can make on the metal-rich Diogenite is
that it looks just like a Mesosiderite but the FeO/MnO ratio support it
being a Diogenite.  The ratios on NWA 1879 support it being a Mesosiderite.
Both our Mesosiderite and the metal-rich Diogenite were studied in the same
laboratory so if they were paired we would know about it.  We hope this
helps to clear up some confusion regarding this material.

We want to further lessen the confusion regarding all of these rarities so
we are sending secondary type specimens to the labs studying anything
remotely similar for other dealers.  If they find any pairings we will be
happy to report what they found.

Now, to see this gorgeous new meteorite, look at the NWA 1879 listings on
the eBay link below:

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritelab/

We will be receiving a shipment later this week with a generous amount of
the new metal-rich Diogenite.  If anybody is interested we will be happy to
prepare specimens up to 2,500 grams and distribute it in polished
thin-sliced form if desired.  It will be sometime late this summer before we
can distribute any of the Lodranite because of O-Isotope testing.   We were
going to save the Lodranite for a Denver surprise but since there is already
talk about this rare beast we thought we would mention it now in order to
clear up any confusion.


Wishing everybody the very best,

Adam and Greg Hupe
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Price Comparison List RECEIVED

2003-06-25 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi All,
Thanks to Mike Masse for sending the following URL link:

http://www.thomascave.com/Meteorites/Charts/splitstonelist.htm

Best wishes, Michael





 

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[meteorite-list] Walter Branch reply please

2003-06-25 Thread Steven Drummond



Hi Walter, I lost your email address.Please reply 
with any message.
Thank You, Steven Drummond 
TUC :-) 


[meteorite-list] Expensive?

2003-06-25 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I was wondering if anybody can answer these two questions for
me? First, What is the most expensive meteorite per gram? Second, is their
any other material that is worth that much per gram besides other
meteorites?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Expensive?

2003-06-25 Thread Yellowengine
Tom,

The most expensive meteorite that I can think of is NWA482, which usually fetches 
between $4000 and $5000/gm...I believe this could be one of the most, if not the most 
expensive natural materials here on earth.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Expensive?

2003-06-25 Thread Ron Baalke
 Hello List, I was wondering if anybody can answer these two questions for
 me? First, What is the most expensive meteorite per gram? 

Probably ALH 84001, if it ever came on the market legally.

 Second, is their
 any other material that is worth that much per gram besides other
 meteorites?

I'd imagine aerogel is more expensive. It happens to be the world's
lightest solid.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Expensive?

2003-06-25 Thread Michael L Blood
Chassigny
No


on 6/25/03 9:36 PM, Tom aka James Knudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello List, I was wondering if anybody can answer these two questions for
 me? First, What is the most expensive meteorite per gram? Second, is their
 any other material that is worth that much per gram besides other
 meteorites?
 Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] RE: Expensive?

2003-06-25 Thread Yellowengine
Now that I think about it, I am probably incorrect on the most expensive meteorite, 
but I do believe that the most expensive man-made substance is antimatter, which goes 
for a mere 62-63 trillion dollars a gram! : )

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[meteorite-list] While on the subject of pricing

2003-06-25 Thread mafer
Hi List

Was wondering, if there is so much Hoba around, why is it sp pricey? Is most
of it locked up in museums and not available?

Thanks
Mark



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