RE: [meteorite-list] Lunar Rock pics?
Hi Tom ! Look here : http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html each meteorite name has a link to a pic Best regards, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom aka James Knudson Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:55 AM To: meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar Rock pics? Hi List, I am trying to build a lunar rock picture collection. If any of you would be so kind as to send me pictures of lunar rocks and there names, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay auction (IMCA member)
IMCA-member auction - "meteorite lookin iron rock...guaranteed to be authentic". Guaranteed to be authentic WHAT? Guaranteed to be "meteorite-lookin"? Comments? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2182553629 Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction (IMCA member)
hello all This is a FAKE eliminated this person from IMCA, if is a member, or addvise Ebay this person use false informations Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMCA-member auction - meteorite lookin iron rock...guaranteed to be authentic. Guaranteed to be authentic WHAT?Guaranteed to be meteorite-lookin? Comments? A HREF=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2182553629;http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2182553629/A Gregory = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] Re: ebay auction (IMCA member)
Jeff K. - It doesn't actually say it's a meteorite. No, it doesn't say it's ANYTHING. But when it's "guaranteed to be authentic", and the only specific substance mentioned anywhere is "meteorite".and that's in the title.what is the novice buyer supposed to infer? Why would any seller mention IMCA membership if he's not wishing to suggest authenticity of a meteorite? Would he mention the IMCA if he were selling a tennis racket? I confess I find it difficult to give this seller the benefit of the doubt, as to motives for the eyebrow-raising text. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] Origin of the Moon God
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[meteorite-list] GEE, BIRKETTSVILLE???
Wow a meteorite from BIRKETSVILLE,maryland!Boy does that ring a bell!It does look very oddly shaped, and discolored.3 words come to mind when I see that one:BLAIR WITCH PROJECT!!! I think we all remember that place. steve arnold,chicago!!! BOOO!!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BOXES for meteorites and much more on eBay
Hello I insert nice set : 18 clear acrylic boxes on nice black palette. To this palette fit also small membrane boxes. I have also alot of meteorites, most of them from 1 cent or 1euro (on eBay.DE) If You are interested go to my ABOUT ME page http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/polandmet_com/ -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Metorites and magnetic displays
I have heard that magnets can cause iron to oxidize quicker. Is there any truth in that? I am asking because I want to know how safe the magnetic display bases are for specimens as I am thinking about getting some. Any pros or cons? Later, Ron
[meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Which IMCA member is putting this oddball chunk o' rock up for sale? There have been instances in the past where logos (Square Trade comes to mind) have been hijacked to lend authenticity where none exists. Maybe some enterprising seller did that to the IMCA logo, and we should make sure the owner of the IMCA number is behind this auction. Tracy Latimer _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction (IMCA member)
Boy List, This Guy is pushing it! I believe he is a list member! He hasout bid me a lot of real meteorites. So he either spent to much on the real ones and has to sell fakes to get some more money, or some one stole his ebay name some thing like what happened to Mike Farmer? Thanks, TomPeregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay auction (IMCA member) IMCA-member auction - "meteorite lookin iron rock...guaranteed to be authentic".Guaranteed to be authentic WHAT? Guaranteed to be "meteorite-lookin"? Comments?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2182553629 Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Hello all, Take 3 deep breaths everybody... This Jackstaw guy, also known as Derik Bowers, has been buying and selling real meteorites for a couple years now. I've bought a couple pieces from him myself. I've seen this native iron for sale from him many times before. I never thought he was trying to say it was a meteorite. If you read you can tell that this was probably once thought to be a meteorite...but it was tested and confirmed not to be. Now it his/others famous meteorwrong that turned out to be a native iron. This piece being claimed to be authentic from that material. Nothing more!!! John Which IMCA member is putting this oddball chunk o' rock up for sale? There have been instances in the past where logos (Square Trade comes to mind) have been hijacked to lend authenticity where none exists. Maybe some enterprising seller did that to the IMCA logo, and we should make sure the owner of the IMCA number is behind this auction. Tracy Latimer _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
I have to agree, I looked at the auction, NOWHERE does it say that it is a meteorite. It describes the material accurately, and says that it looks like a meteorite. It is up to the bidder to decide if they want to buy that meteorite lookin rock. It is not the job of the IMCA to keep anyone from selling anything. You can certainly question what you want, but to jump on this guy over this is not right. He has every right to sell anything he pleases, as long as he attempts no fraud. He very clearly called the item an iron rock, said where he found it, and said that it was meteorite looking. Nothing more. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite Hello all, Take 3 deep breaths everybody... This Jackstaw guy, also known as Derik Bowers, has been buying and selling real meteorites for a couple years now. I've bought a couple pieces from him myself. I've seen this native iron for sale from him many times before. I never thought he was trying to say it was a meteorite. If you read you can tell that this was probably once thought to be a meteorite...but it was tested and confirmed not to be. Now it his/others famous meteorwrong that turned out to be a native iron. This piece being claimed to be authentic from that material. Nothing more!!! John Which IMCA member is putting this oddball chunk o' rock up for sale? There have been instances in the past where logos (Square Trade comes to mind) have been hijacked to lend authenticity where none exists. Maybe some enterprising seller did that to the IMCA logo, and we should make sure the owner of the IMCA number is behind this auction. Tracy Latimer _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Hello Mike, John and list, I think he should of made it a little more clear that it is not a meteorite. To me he was kind of vague! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite I have to agree, I looked at the auction, NOWHERE does it say that it is a meteorite. It describes the material accurately, and says that it looks like a meteorite. It is up to the bidder to decide if they want to buy that meteorite lookin rock. It is not the job of the IMCA to keep anyone from selling anything. You can certainly question what you want, but to jump on this guy over this is not right. He has every right to sell anything he pleases, as long as he attempts no fraud. He very clearly called the item an iron rock, said where he found it, and said that it was meteorite looking. Nothing more. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite Hello all, Take 3 deep breaths everybody... This Jackstaw guy, also known as Derik Bowers, has been buying and selling real meteorites for a couple years now. I've bought a couple pieces from him myself. I've seen this native iron for sale from him many times before. I never thought he was trying to say it was a meteorite. If you read you can tell that this was probably once thought to be a meteorite...but it was tested and confirmed not to be. Now it his/others famous meteorwrong that turned out to be a native iron. This piece being claimed to be authentic from that material. Nothing more!!! John Which IMCA member is putting this oddball chunk o' rock up for sale? There have been instances in the past where logos (Square Trade comes to mind) have been hijacked to lend authenticity where none exists. Maybe some enterprising seller did that to the IMCA logo, and we should make sure the owner of the IMCA number is behind this auction. Tracy Latimer _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metorites and magnetic displays
Hi List, I have wondered if the magnetic holders are a good idea or not. I don't like or permit people to put magnets on my for sale specimens because some researchers do magnetic field tests on specimens (these are very very mild fields that show orientation of the specimen). I don't know of all the scientific value of these magnetic field tests but placing a powerful magnet on any meteorite would ruin the specimen for this type of test. I am not putting the sellers of these holders down (pretty innovative) but specimens should be kept in their natural states without any sort of outside influences if they are to be studied in the future. All my best. --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you read you can tell that this was probably once thought to be a meteorite...but it was tested and confirmed not to be. Well, I CAN read, thank you very much, John. ;-) Eliminating all text having nothing to do with authenticity, it says the following "HAD IT TESTEDIT IS A EQUAL MIX OF IRON AND SILICON...GUARANTEED TO BE AUTHENTIC ,,IMCA 5093,,, INTERNATIONAL METEORITE COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION. I fail to see where that suggests that "it was tested and confirmed not to be." As I said in the post first mentioning this, we all like to give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible, especially to a fellow IMCA member, and that was my first instinct, too. But even for those of us whose insticnt is to be charitable, the seller's own wording above makes it awfully difficult to do so. I don't necessarily think anyone should be expelled from the IMCA for one offense, but I still maintain that composing the above text, with NO idea that it could possibly be misinterpreted, is a stretch. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Ok, I agree with this much, if he is a member of the IMCA, then he should put into words that it is NOT a meteorite. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you read you can tell that this was probably once thought to be a meteorite...but it was tested and confirmed not to be. Well, I CAN read, thank you very much, John. ;-)Eliminating all text having nothing to do with authenticity, it says the following "HAD IT TESTEDIT IS A EQUAL MIX OF IRON AND SILICON...GUARANTEED TO BE AUTHENTIC ,,IMCA 5093,,, INTERNATIONAL METEORITE COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION. I fail to see where that suggests that "it was tested and confirmed not to be." As I said in the post first mentioning this, we all like to give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible, especially to a fellow IMCA member, and that was my first instinct, too. But even for those of us whose insticnt is to be charitable, the seller's own wording above makes it awfully difficult to do so. I don't necessarily think anyone should be expelled from the IMCA for one offense, but I still maintain that composing the above text, with NO idea that it could possibly be misinterpreted, is a stretch. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
In a message dated 7/12/03 11:04:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Mike, John and list, I think he should of made it a little more clear that it is not a meteorite. To me he was kind of vague! It looks clear to me that it was deliberately written vague in order to snag a sucker. George Zay
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Ok, I agree with this much, if he is a member of the IMCA, then he should put into words that it is NOT a meteorite. The auction has now closed, and it was won (for $1.25 !) by a gentleman I recognize, as he has bought many meteorites from me, and many dealers I know, in the past. I'd be willing to bet a margarita in Tucson '04 that he THOUGHT he was bidding on a meteorite. Now, this buyer's less-than-perceptive interpretation of the wording is just as unfortunate as the seller's less-than-ideal writing of it, but point is, the erroneous assumption was made. With any luck, both buyer and seller will be a little smarter when this thing is hashed out. I'm sure Rhett will relay the seller's response asap. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Hello List, I have to stand with Gregory on this one. Mike Farmer said I have to agree, I looked at the auction, NOWHERE does it say that it is a meteorite. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite Hello List, I have to stand with Gregory on this one. Mike Farmer said I have to agree, I looked at the auction, NOWHERE does it say that it is a meteorite. But, NOWHERE does it say it is NOT a meteorite. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite Ok, I agree with this much, if he is a member of the IMCA, then he should put into words that it is NOT a meteorite. The auction has now closed, and it was won (for $1.25 !) by a gentleman I recognize, as he has bought many meteorites from me, and many dealers I know, in the past. I'd be willing to bet a margarita in Tucson '04 that he THOUGHT he was bidding on a meteorite. Now, this buyer's less-than-perceptive interpretation of the wording is just as unfortunate as the seller's less-than-ideal writing of it, but point is, the erroneous assumption was made. With any luck, both buyer and seller will be a little smarter when this thing is hashed out. I'm sure Rhett will relay the seller's response asap. Gregory __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: AD SALE: Meteorite Microscope in Phoenix
Good Afternoon List, Am forwarding this message on behalf of a list member having difficulty with the server. This is for any parties interested in obtaining a microscope--perfect for studying meteorites, whether thin sections, slabs, micromounts, and so forth. I have seen this microscope---the original cost in the 1960's was thousands and it's now being offered at a fraction of that on eBay. Before any listmember plunks down a cool $350-$400 for a standard, garden variety stereo microscope---you might want to look this scope over and give this listmember a call, especially if you're living in Arizona. More pics are available for interested parties. Best... ...Steve Sachs IMCA #9210 ---BeginMessage--- SALE: Microscope in Phoenix Dear List Members, I am selling a microscope that I have used extensively to study meteorite microstructures. You might want to take a look if you need a microscope and live in the Phoenix, AZ area. Unfortunately, the microscope is very heavy. I've listed it at a good price hoping to find a local buyer. The ebay link is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2183088481category=3239 If anybody is interested, they can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Hello List, He relisted and made it much clearer! I do think it was an over sight on his part, I always thought of him as a respected member of the meteorite community! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite Hello Mike, John and list, I think he should of made it a little more clear that it is not a meteorite. To me he was kind of vague! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite I have to agree, I looked at the auction, NOWHERE does it say that it is a meteorite. It describes the material accurately, and says that it looks like a meteorite. It is up to the bidder to decide if they want to buy that meteorite lookin rock. It is not the job of the IMCA to keep anyone from selling anything. You can certainly question what you want, but to jump on this guy over this is not right. He has every right to sell anything he pleases, as long as he attempts no fraud. He very clearly called the item an iron rock, said where he found it, and said that it was meteorite looking. Nothing more. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite Hello all, Take 3 deep breaths everybody... This Jackstaw guy, also known as Derik Bowers, has been buying and selling real meteorites for a couple years now. I've bought a couple pieces from him myself. I've seen this native iron for sale from him many times before. I never thought he was trying to say it was a meteorite. If you read you can tell that this was probably once thought to be a meteorite...but it was tested and confirmed not to be. Now it his/others famous meteorwrong that turned out to be a native iron. This piece being claimed to be authentic from that material. Nothing more!!! John Which IMCA member is putting this oddball chunk o' rock up for sale? There have been instances in the past where logos (Square Trade comes to mind) have been hijacked to lend authenticity where none exists. Maybe some enterprising seller did that to the IMCA logo, and we should make sure the owner of the IMCA number is behind this auction. Tracy Latimer _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Dear list, I agree with John that this is not a case of an IMCA member trying to sell a meteorwrong as a meteorite. He calls it an iron rock and meteorite-looking, and if I were a bidder I would not believe I was bidding on a meteorite, To protect those who might believe they were bidding on a meteorite, however, it would have been better if he stated clearly this is not a meteorite. But, if one wishes to question the practices of an IMCA member, consider the following auctions. Here is an auction for a 1.12g slice of Shirokovsky which ended in April, before it was official that Shirokovsky was not a meteorite. In this auction the seller identifies himself by IMCA number: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2171620619 Sometime later, the seller ran an auction for a 0.64g slice of Shirokovsky. Although official word had not yet come down on this material, I wrote to the seller and told him it was not looking good for this material being meteoritic He replied that he would look into it and he cancelled the auction. I was therefore surprised when he ran the auction again, this time to a conclusion: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2176968147 Note that in this auction, he does not mention the IMCA at all, even though he is still listed as a member, and he states the material is a pallasite. Further, he states that he is selling as is, which tells me this IMCA member knew exactly what he was doing: selling a meteorwrong as a meteorite. The winner of the auction also left feedback indicating that he loved his meteorite specimen! If this sounds familiar, I did point out this questionable auction to the list a few weeks back. The reason I am bringing it up now is that this IMCA member seems clearly to have pulled a fast one with the buyer being none the wiser, whereas the IMCA member selling the iron rock from Maryland does not seem to be, in my mind at least, anywhere near as deceptive in what he's doing. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Sometime later, the seller ran an auction for a 0.64g slice of Shirokovsky. Although official word had not yet come down on this material, I wrote to the seller and told him it was not looking good for this material being meteoritic hmm, but why Shirokovsky is not a meteorite ? This looks like 101% pallasite -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
PolandMet wrote: hmm, but why Shirokovsky is not a meteorite ? This looks like 101% pallasite Hi Marcin and list: That's why: http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/shirokovsky.pdf Peter
[meteorite-list] No More Rust
Hello members, There is a brand new page on my site. No, it is not about new meteorites (I am still waiting on 2 of them) but it is about VCI products. If you click on the button "No More Rust" or follow this link: www.impactika.com/antirust.htm you will find answers to all your questions, and supplies you absolutely need!!! :-) Of course, let me know if I forgot something. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Charlie: he states that he is selling "as is", which tells me this IMCA member [Shirokovsky] knew exactly what he was doing: selling a meteorwrong as a meteorite.[snip]...this seller seems clearly to have pulled a fast one with the buyer being none the wiser, whereas the IMCA member selling the "iron rock" from Maryland does not seem to be, in my mind at least, anywhere near as deceptive in what he's doing. Agreed. Mr. "Meteorite-lookin'-iron-rock" can at least receive dissenting votes as to his intentions (as we've seen), but Mr "Shirokovsky-as-is-with-no-IMCA-logo" is pretty transparent. Gregory
[meteorite-list] Origin of Mankind and the Moon and whatever .........
A question for you all: Would we be here at all to argue about the Moon, God andthe propriety ofoffering meteor-wrongs forsaleif the Carboniferous forest was still around? (Clue: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2003/pdf/sess18.pdf ) Brendan
[meteorite-list] Final eBay list
Hi All,
I have heard from many people off list asking for a copy of
the eBay sellers and buyers guide I put together - and I have
provided same.
Here it is (below):
I was happy to put this together for everyone, but it gets old
having to copy/past and email it repeatedly, so, PLEASE SAVE IT.
Those who don't save it, please look for it in the list archives
under Final.
(I believe everyone in this list was ALREADY in such a list or
requested inclusion, so, no one's anonymity is being compromised
{thanks, Gregory} If anyone wanted to be included and was not,
please note that NO ONE was excluded on purpose. If you contact
me off list, I will be sure you are included the NEXT time I put this
out - perhaps 3 months from now?).
Best wishes, Michael
As of July 2003compiled by Michael Blood:
(SOME of this info is likely out of date even at this time)
a.chondrite..AZ..Marvin Killgore
airsheepHawaii...Tracy Latimer
AMUNRE .Canada.www.meteoriteshop.com..Dean Bessey
androyd...[EMAIL PROTECTED]...Dave Andrews
anorthosite..[EMAIL PROTECTED]...Steve Witt (219) 614-1935
apollo-13..[EMAIL PROTECTED]...James J. Oldham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] J.Dobos
astrogator1..CA...Dr. Mike Reynolds
austromet ...Christian Anger
beeblemarvinCA.Rob Matson
bobholmes..AZ.Bob Homes
bobk9.Minn.Bob King
bolide*chaser...CA. Robert Verish
branchmeteorites...Walter Branch
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[meteorite-list] Price of Odessa
Hi All, I was hoping some of you - or at least one of you would know what the per Lb price of Odessa should be on a multi pound specimen of good (neither fabulous nor poor) character/form. http://www.thomascave.com/Meteorites/Charts/splitstonelist.htm has it listed at .40 - 1.81 per GRAM - but, surely, this is not for multiple kg sized specimens? The last time I was in Odessa, a couple of old dudes had garages full of specimens at $65/Lb - but that was a bunch of years ago. Anyone know the status these days of this material? Thanks, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Naval Jelly
Has anyone ever used Naval Jelly on rusty irons? I have a new Campo starting to flake and was wondering if this would clean it up. David H. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Final eBay list
Hello List, I have an idea! Have you ever got one of those emails that say add your name to the this list and forward it to your friends. We can do that with this list, and save Michael a big head ache! I thought about adding our IMCA #'s to it. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Shaun Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Final eBay list Michael L Blood contacted me as well. But I do not se my name on the listInternational Meteorite Collectors Association Member # 3608. meteormagic shaun __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Alabama Superbolide of Dec.5, 1999 --Coldwater,AL?
I recall doing some preliminary work on a bolide tracked by DOD which should have terminated in the vicinity of Coldwater(?) Alabama (East of Montgomery) about that time. To my knowledge no one ever reported searching even though discussed widly on the list. The track data was pretty good and the angle steep. I believe the initial ground plot discussed was 5-8 kilometers wide by 8-10 long over an undeveloped tract of land southwest of a state roadway. This one may have been marked by a flash on a secuirty camera. Incidentally New Holland PA, in 1995(?) is another promising DOD track which wasn't (reported to have been) followed up. I am too many hard drive crashes later to lay my hands on exact references. Regards, Elton Paul wrote: In the latest issue of Eos (American Geophysical Union), there is a detailed article about about fireballs (bolides) seen all across Alabama on Dec. 5, 1999. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Alabama Superbolide of Dec.5, 1999 --Coldwater,AL?
I recall doing some preliminary work with another list member on a bolide tracked by DOD which should have terminated in the vicinity of Coldwater(?) Alabama (East of Montgomery) about that time. To my knowledge no one ever reported searching even though discussed widely on the list. The track data was pretty good and the angle steep. I believe the initial ground plot discussed was 5-8 kilometers wide by 8-10 long over an undeveloped tract of land southwest of a state roadway. This one may have been marked by a flash on a security camera. This location isn't all that far from the Wetumpka Astrobleme if anyone wants to do a twofer. Incidentally New Holland PA, in 1995(?) is another promising DOD track which wasn't (reported to have been) followed up. I am too many hard drive crashes later to lay my hands on exact references. Regards, Elton Paul wrote: In the latest issue of Eos (American Geophysical Union), there is a detailed article about about fireballs (bolides) seen all across Alabama on Dec. 5, 1999. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Cortec VCI Emitters For Sale
Hi List, I recently purchased a case of Cortec VCI-101 emitters, but I don't have a use for all of them. So, with that said, I am offering the remaining emitters to the list at actual cost. Each foam emitter is 3 inch long x 1.25 inch wide x 1/4 inch thick and protects 1 cubic foot of space for up to 2 years. Again, I am offering these at the price that I paid for them, which is $2.45 ea. plus $.37 postage in the U.S. only. I only have about 30 of these remaining, so if you are interested please contact me via private email. Thank You! -Ryan For more info: http://texastechnologies.com/vciemitter.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] DOD Satellites Detect March 2003 Bolide Over Park Forest
In a message dated 7/8/2003 11:47:37 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Farmer wrote. We are not talking a very far off course. The smaller stones seem to be less than a quarter to half mile to the east, that is nothing when something is falling from space. Steger is just on the other side of the road from Park Forest, not really like out west here where one town is 30 or 40 miles to the next. To me this strewnfield looks absolutely perfect, if not just a tad scewed like (I think) by the wind. Hello Mike and List, Sorry for joining this conversation late as I was out the last few days. At this point I am still reluctant to share too much information as I still have Park Forest specimens to sell and I am convinced many more little ones are out there waiting to be picked and compete with mine in the market place. However, I will say, after picking up 113 specimens and probably spending 30% of my time (of the 44 days I hunted) looking outside of the strewnfield area on my map, these things are very uniformly distributed (with one little exception - all the oriented specimens landed with significantly smaller sized stones) from sub gram pieces roughly in the Southeast and the big 5kg one roughly to the Northwest. And this field goes MUCH further southeast than most people realize. Much more than the 1/4 to 1/2 mile that Mike mentioned above. Also the further Southeast I got the more dramatic the reports were of the noise, light and shaking when the rocks came in. I do not think any meteorites fell in Beecher. Reports from one person said multiple pieces hit their window and or roof top. I think not. Maybe the sonic boom(s) shook the windows and roof, but if "many" pieces could land on just one roof, or hit just one window, we should have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousand of small specimen in and around Beecher. I did not find any near Beecher. I don't think anyone else did either. Slag yes, meteorites no. Within my strewnfield map area, I would find pieces in a fairly constant spacing from each other with a few anomalies of two pieces being found just feet from each other. Once I would venture out too far in any direction, (one never knows how far is too far until he tries) I would not find anything in 10 times the area I would find a specimen back inside the zone, possibly only a few hundred or thousand feet away. Of course there could be more outside of my mapped area, but statically we are looking at about 200 specimens total now and NONE of them are significantly out of place. I mean if just one specimen was found anywhere to the Southwest or the Northeast of all 200 others, that might make me think it was transported, but it would offer a hint of a possibility of a SW to NE fall. But there is not one such find. There were many cars and buildings hit with rocks laying in the street. If there were any significantly to the SW wouldn't one have been found? And if there was such a low break up, then the wind would have to be blowing like 500 miles an hour to scoot those specimens miles to the East with rocks indeed going in under roof eves and hitting windows. As I mentioned before in another post, this is a very normal elliptical strewnfield. The only thing that would make it perfect would be a 50kg stone found a mile or two further Northwest of where the other big ones have been found. Even with the possibility of a reverse strewnfield, that would need to place the fireball coming in from the NW going SE. Match that up with the eye witness accounts that Steve Witt mentioned, and I would have to say that there is an error in the report. I know, it is totally impossible for some people to think that anyone who works for the government could ever be wrong about anything. Humm... maybe this is a conspiracy by the Federal Government to throw us all of the track of the real main mass waiting to be located... Oh, on another subject, Noe Garza's 911 call came into the Park Forest Police Department at 11:56pm of the 26th. Maybe the dispatcher's clock might have been off by a few seconds or possibly a minute, but even with a little variation, I am now convinced that the fall distinctively was on the 26th. It would be interesting to know if Garza could account for how long it took for the rock to hit his house and then for him to actually make the call. It is still looking like a 3 minute plus free fall after burn out before impact. Steve Arnold
