Re: [meteorite-list] Denver

2003-09-09 Thread Mark Ferguson



Hi All
As much as I wanted to make Denver, a job of 
suitable means has yet to appear and so I have to hope Tucson will be 
possible.
Have fun and hope to meet some of you people after 
the new year.
Mark

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  Michael Farmer 
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  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:54 
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  Subject: [meteorite-list] Denver
  
  Hello everyone, I will fly up to Denver on 
  Wednesday and stay until Sunday. I have a new Cell Phone # for use up there, 
  it is 520 730 4754. If anyone wants me to bring any specific item, please let 
  me know. 
  Who else will be there? 
  Mike Farmer


[meteorite-list] AUCTION - Update

2003-09-09 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody,


We finally figured out how to have dealers register their pieces early, and how to make them available for everyone to see before the Auction. 

I have "voluntereed" to be in the "Mineral and Fossil Supply" showroom all day Friday (from about 11am) so dealers and anyone entering pieces in the Auction will be able to come in, do their paperwork and place their pieces in locked display cases. And of course everybody is more than welcome to come and take a good look at those pieces before the auction. 
So, PLEASE, bring them in early, and come look.

Just in case you wonder, I will have some of my pieces there too. 

Please go to my site and click on the NEWS page for a map and easy directions on how to find the showroom (and me). :-)

See you all very soon.

Anne M. Black
www. IMPACTIKA.com
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IMCA #2356


RE: [meteorite-list] Recommended humidity for public display

2003-09-09 Thread mark ford








Bill,



Thanks! Much appreciated. (I can achieve 50%!)



Mark



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From: Bill Mason
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Sent: 09 September 2003 03:53
To: mark ford
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Recommended humidity for public display



Dear
Mark.


We maintain a 50% at the SMM.


Bill Mason



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Hi,



Does anyone know what the
recommended humidity and temperature is for displaying meteorites
to the public (in particular chondrites) is? I know different museums
seem to have different policies on this?





Best Wishes 

Mark F.












Re: [meteorite-list] Park forest pictures

2003-09-09 Thread Roman Nakonechny
Well it's an honor to meet you Mr. Evans. Howdy . Are you really the sausage 
 selling Bob Evans, if not , which is most  likely then I've been told a 
fib. But you can keep the honor part of the Hello. But seriously, I clicked 
the link to the photo's and was sent to a Yahoo commercial asking me for my 
Yahoo Email and Password . I'm not a Yahoo subscriber. Why are they All 
Over your site, Bob. And yes, I clicked on Meteorites and didly squat was 
my next stop, and Yahoo asking again for my Email and Password??
 Well, I dont blame you Bob, but I cant figure out why it is'nt linking to 
the photos. Thanks for trying to put them up for the list anyway. Maybe it's 
just me.
`~* ROMAN N. # 0583
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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:05:34 EDT
Hello Rob  List

The link should work now for anyone who wants to view them.

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/spacerox2001

Thanks
Bob Evans
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Re: [meteorite-list] Recommended humidity for public display

2003-09-09 Thread Rob Wesel




I can do RH 50%, outside, in Oregon. Is this number 
right?--Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and 
we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971






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  From: 
  mark ford 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:36 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Recommended 
  humidity for public display
  
  
  Bill,
  
  Thanks! Much 
  appreciated. (I can achieve 50%!)
  
  Mark
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Bill Mason 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 September 
  2003 03:53To: mark 
  fordSubject: RE: [meteorite-list] Recommended 
  humidity for public display
  
  Dear 
  Mark.
   
  We maintain a 50% at the SMM.
   
  Bill Mason
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark fordSent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:57 
  AMTo: 
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  humidity for public display
  
  
  Hi,
  
  Does anyone know what the 
  ‘recommended’ humidity and temperature is for displaying meteorites to the 
  public (in particular chondrites) is? I know different museums seem to 
  have different policies on this…?
  
  
  Best Wishes 
  
  Mark 
  F.
  
  


Re: [meteorite-list] Park forest pictures

2003-09-09 Thread bernd . pauli
 The link should work now for anyone who wants to view them.

 http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/spacerox2001

4.3 Kilo Oriented NWA / Posted: 7-Sep-2003  - Resolution: 400 x 300

What a beauty! Look at those craters on top of this oriented PF.
Is it somewhat deformed regmaglypts or actually craterlets that
may be the result of something meteoritic hitting it while the material
was still ablating away during its plunge through the atmosphere?

Thanks for the pics!

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver

2003-09-09 Thread FERNLEA4
In a message dated 09/09/03 02:17:37 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I will be - my first Denver-show. Anne Black kindly relieved some anxieties by letting me know that there is plenty of good, spicy food in Denver


I'll be in Denver from Thursday - Sunday...and I'll be bringing my own sandwiches ;-)



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[meteorite-list] new ebay auctions

2003-09-09 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Good morning all.I have put up 5 new auctions on ebay today.They all are
going 7 days or less.I put buy it now on all of them.So good luck to
all.

 steve arnold, chicago

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[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Mr. Freeman!

2003-09-09 Thread moni waiblinger-seabridge
Hi All,

i hope you don't mind me using up some band width for one of our list- 
members!

David Freeman has a birthday today!

Happy Birthday and thanks for your additions to the list. I enjoy reading 
them,  Moni

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[meteorite-list] Birthday!

2003-09-09 Thread moni waiblinger-seabridge
Hi All,

i hope you don't mind me using up some band width for one of our list- 
members!

David Freeman has a birthday today!

Happy Birthday and thanks for your additions to the list. I enjoy reading 
them,  Moni

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Re: [meteorite-list] Birthday!

2003-09-09 Thread bernd . pauli
 David Freeman has a birthday today!
 Happy Birthday and thanks for your additions
 to the list. I enjoy reading them,  Moni

.. and if my backgound information is correct, it's also
Dave's 50th birthday anniversary today because on
08 Sep, 2001, he wrote in a private mail:

Well 'ol bud, I turn 48 on Sunday...Yikes!

So, 'ol buddy, a very happy birthday
and many happy returns of the day !!!

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2003-09-09 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
11 months from now the BIG  50  for me.But I feel like 25 thank you so
much.And happy birthday dave from chicago.

  steve

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[meteorite-list] Danebury meteorite (ancient)

2003-09-09 Thread mark ford








Hi,



I am looking for info on the Danebury
meteorite, (it was found buried on an Iron age site in the UK) I have found
a short reference here http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/bookman/meteorites/ENGL.HTM#danebury



But I am looking for more info classification details and pictures
anyone got anymore information?







Thanks!



Mark F.












[meteorite-list] Asteroid Scares: Why They Won't End

2003-09-09 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/asteroid_scares_030909.html

Asteroid Scares: Why They Won't End
By Robert Roy Britt
space.com
09 September 2003

Kevin Yates could not foresee the global media circus and public anxiety he
would fuel last week with a routine Web posting about a potentially
dangerous asteroid.

Nor could he know that days later a handful researchers would suggest
ditching the four-year-old Torino Scale, which rates asteroid hazards like
the Richter Scale ranks earthquakes and was designed to improve
communication between astronomers and the public.

In a telephone interview yesterday, the Torino Scale's creator stands by its
value, and SPACE.com has learned that the ranking system has already
undergone a revision, taking into account earlier criticisms, as part of a
forthcoming book.

The media firestorm is just the latest in a long series of foibles involving
asteroid researchers and journalists. It began Sept. 3.

Earth is doomed, again

Yates said he received a request for information from a BBC radio reporter
about a newfound asteroid whose chance of hitting Earth could not be ruled
out. As project manager of the British government's Near Earth Object
Information Center (NEOIC), Yates posted information and expert quotations
about the space rock on the organization's web site.

Newspapers and web sites around the world quickly warned of a treacherous
asteroid called 2003 QQ47. It was on course to destroy the planet, many
stories said.

Earth is doomed was among the most outlandish of a slew of misleading
headlines.

Few of the publications bothered to mention a day later that the odds of
impact had dropped to zero. The coverage was called obsolete and overblown
by one asteroid researcher, the lack of retractions shocking and
reprehensible.

The odds of collision were put 1-in-909,000 in the year 2014. The rock
ranked a 1 on the Torino Scale, meaning it deserved careful monitoring by
astronomers. Zero is the lowest and 10 is a worst-case scenario. In many
stories, these truths were buried below a frosting of frightening adjectives
and alarmingly active verbs.

Yates, whose agency is barely a year old, became a lighting rod for
criticism from his peers, astronomers and asteroid analysts who have been
similarly bitten by the media in recent years. What Yates didn't fully
understand, but what his colleagues did, was that any mention of an asteroid
with miniscule odds of impact could become fodder for outlandish claims of
impending Armageddon.

Doom sells papers.

By the end of the day -- and even before some of the stories were published
-- more scientific observations had been gathered and the chance of
collision was reduced to zero, leaving many journalists with egg on their
faces, wrote Leon Jaroff in Time Magazine.

The scientific outcome, indeed the whole process, was routine. Three dozen
other newfound asteroids this year have had similar long-term non-zero
chances of impact. Of these, five still have not been ruled out. Three
asteroids this year, in addition to 2003 QQ47, have ranked 1 on the Torino
Scale.

But for whatever reasons the media didn't notice any these objects.

Importantly, last week's episode was a virtual rerun of four others that
have occurred since 1998. There is one key difference, however. Each time
previously, astronomers worked diligently on ways to prevent a recurrence.
This time, there are a predictable round of accusations and more suggestions
for how to improve the system.

But the sentiment among eight experts interviewed by SPACE.com is clearly
different: It will happen again.

Other victims

We have all been victims of this same problem with earlier impact scares,
and we have all learned from this, said Brian Marsden, who runs the Minor
Planet Center in Cambridge, Mass. Kevin [Yates] is newer to the game, but I
suspect that he, too, will come to appreciate that the media are frequently
quite incorrigible and will milk a story for all they think it is worth,
whatever we may say.

Marsden knows this better than anyone in the Near Earth Object (NEO)
community, a loose affiliation of scientists who study comets and asteroids
that share the general space through which Earth orbits.

Marsden is the father of asteroid controversy.

His Minor Planet Center is like Grand Central Station for asteroid
observations. All the data and analysis flows through there.

It was Marsden who issued the first modern public warning about an asteroid
that might hit Earth. On March 11, 1998, he put out a press statement
regarding asteroid 1997 XF11, between 1 and 2 kilometers (0.62-1.24 miles)
wide. The chance of an actual collision is small, but one is not entirely
out of the question, the statement said.

The story went global.

Within a day, further study by two separate groups (spurred into action by
Marsden's comments) showed that 1997 XF11 could not strike the planet.

Yesterday Marsden told me he'd used words that were a little unwise. I
should have realized that 

Re: [meteorite-list] Denver

2003-09-09 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Rob, Gregory  all,
I, too, will be there Thurs-Sun.
The Comets/Michael Blood Auction on Fri. evening and the
Comets no-host dinner with the world's largest Marguritas should
definitely not be missed.
Them Comets know how to have fun!
Michael
 

on 9/9/03 6:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 09/09/03 02:17:37 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I will be  -  my first Denver-show.  Anne Black kindly relieved some
 anxieties by letting me know that there is plenty of good, spicy food in
 Denver
 
 
 I'll be in Denver from Thursday - Sunday...and I'll be bringing my own
 sandwiches ;-)
 
 
 
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 A HREF=www.meteorites.uk.comwww.meteorites.uk.com/A
 Fernlea Meteorites,
 The Wynd,
 Off Dickson Lane,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver

2003-09-09 Thread Matt Morgan




I will be at the show from Tues thru Sun with my bag of goodies, some of
which includes Spade (main mass and slabs), Ochansk, Soko-Banja, Gao, Mocs,
Tenham, a new H/L 3-4, and a few other noteworthy items. I usually hang
in Blaine's room with all the other dealers. So stop by and say hello! Will
also be at the auction and will try and be at the dinner.
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
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Michael L Blood wrote:

  Hi Rob, Gregory  all,
I, too, will be there Thurs-Sun.
The Comets/Michael Blood Auction on Fri. evening and the
Comets no-host dinner with the world's largest Marguritas should
definitely not be missed.
Them Comets know how to have fun!
Michael
 

on 9/9/03 6:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
In a message dated 09/09/03 02:17:37 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:



  I will be  -  my first Denver-show.  Anne Black kindly relieved some
anxieties by letting me know that there is plenty of good, spicy food in
Denver
  


I'll be in Denver from Thursday - Sunday...and I'll be bringing my own
sandwiches ;-)



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A HREF=""moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.meteorites.uk.com">www.meteorites.uk.com"www.meteorites.uk.com/A
Fernlea Meteorites,
The Wynd,
Off Dickson Lane,
Milton of Balgonie,
Fife. KY7 6PY
United Kingdom
Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563
Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991
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- Earth - variety of choices:
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eorCraterRimL.html
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[meteorite-list] Caldwell?

2003-09-09 Thread Jerry Calvert



Anyone have any information on the main mass of the 
Caldwell, Sumner County, Kansas meteorite or if any of
the material is available?
Thanks,
Jerry Calvert


Re: [meteorite-list] Denver

2003-09-09 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Everybody,  I will be in Denver from late Thursday or early Friday through Sunday. I will be carrying a few things with me, so if you see me feel free to come up and say hello. I can usually be found around Blaine Reed's room or around the Fossil section of the show.   The Comets/Michael Blood auction is always a lot of fun and I look forward to seeing everyone there. I will have e-mail while I am gone but it might be hard for me to answer all e-mails in a timely fashion.   Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas


Re: [meteorite-list] Denver

2003-09-09 Thread Sharkkb8



FERNLEA4 writes:
I'll be bringing my own sandwiches 
Figures to be a chilling test of our Customs and border security. ;-)

So Mike F. asked the question - but the Denver-immigration can't be just him, Mark Bostick, the Merry Bagpiper, and me. Who else is Denver-bound?

 Gregory 


Re: [meteorite-list] Recommended humidity for public display

2003-09-09 Thread Howard Wu
I would assume that the optimal RH for storing and displaying meteorites "in their natural enviroment"would be 0%. The closer to this the better.

Howard WuRob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









I can do RH 50%, outside, in Oregon. Is this number right?--Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971






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From: mark ford 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:36 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Recommended humidity for public display


Bill,

Thanks! Much appreciated. (I can achieve 50%!)

Mark

-Original Message-From: Bill Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 September 2003 03:53To:
 mark fordSubject: RE: [meteorite-list] Recommended humidity for public display

Dear Mark.
 We maintain a 50% at the SMM.
 Bill Mason

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark fordSent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:57 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [meteorite-list] Recommended humidity for public display


Hi,

Does anyone know what the ‘recommended’ humidity and temperature is for displaying meteorites to the public (in particular chondrites) is? I know different museums seem to have different policies on this…?


Best Wishes 
Mark F.

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[meteorite-list] ONE cent ebay sale, 364 gram IMILAC thousands of $$$$$$$$ for one cent.

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Farmer



Hey everyone, For those of you who are not going to 
Denver, I have loaded almost 50 meteorites with more to come on Wednesday. All 
meteorites were loaded for one cent, no reserve, and there are some very 
valuable items, including an Imilac endcut that weighs 364 grams! This is a 
$4000+ piece loaded for one cent! 
 http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=meteoritehunters
click above for my meteoritehunters id and click 
view sellers other auctions.

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above is the imilac piece! 
Good luck and bid away early, they all end fairly 
close to each other. 

Mike Farmer
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[meteorite-list] almost forgot.

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Farmer



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2191380845category=3239rd=1
If you want to see one of the most beautiful 
Sikhote-Alins on the planet, click the link above. It is a superb perfectly 
flight oriented nosecone 100% covered in flow lines. Truly the best Sikhote I 
have ever owned, and it is for sale starting at one cent along with all the 
other ebay items. 
Mike Farmer


[meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual

2003-09-09 Thread Michael L Blood
WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit
your delete button.

Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my
yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower
seeds! 
 When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was alerted
when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in
your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were,
indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left
most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating
themŠ. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so.
In fact, there were twelve of them ­ an entire flock. And
beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly
all the same species.
I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see
most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at:

http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL

(Particularly nice are photos # P16  P15)

I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue
heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with
a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of
some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh
colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I
could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely
escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have
bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed
Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil,
Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped
flock that have naturalized in the area.
It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one
hears of them appearing here  there on occasion. Usually,
however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species
of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having
escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence
I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same
species. 
In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers
next year! 
Best wishes, Michael

 


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Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual

2003-09-09 Thread Tom
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual



Very nice pictures, I wish they were here in Michigan but I doubt it would never happened here.

Tom P.


WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit
your delete button.

Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my
yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower
seeds! 
When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was alerted
when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in
your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were,
indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left
most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating
them. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so.
In fact, there were twelve of them  an entire flock. And
beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly
all the same species.
I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see
most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at:

http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL

(Particularly nice are photos # P16  P15)

I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue
heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with
a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of
some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh
colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I
could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely
escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have
bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed
Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil,
Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped
flock that have naturalized in the area.
It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one
hears of them appearing here  there on occasion. Usually,
however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species
of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having
escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence
I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same
species. 
In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers
next year! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Pictures

2003-09-09 Thread joann breitbarth
Great stuff. At first glance I thought that NWA was a PF. I almost fell off
my chair!! Thanks for the pics.

Bill Kieskowski


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 Hello List,

 For all the Park Forest enthusiasts... I just uploaded pictures of a
few
 specimens from my collection. One 62 gram Frag with regmaglypts . Please
take
 a look at the following link:
 http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/spacerox2001

 Have a good evening!

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Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual

2003-09-09 Thread Roman Nakonechny
Hey Mikey,
   I'm from  Brasil (true spelling) and all OFF TOPIC'S  should be 
so fascinating. I wish I could've seen the feathery and colorful 
illegals(joke).Even parrot's are COMIN TO AMERICA like the Neil Diamond 
Global Hit Song. But it's the warm climate in San Diego, which is similar to 
parts of South America that has allowed them to survive and will probably 
propagate . The will pass by your house again . The species has homing 
capabilities- to known food sources. Let's hope some ignorant rural's don't 
shoot them out of the sky. In Brasil we would all come out of our school 
rooms when hundreds flew noisily overhead.It was like a living rainbow- 
coollest thing to see. Real nice OFF TOPIC.
Now, back to fusion crusted  birds of another kind- METEORITES  {:-)
*#0583 - OUT


From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 11:10:43 -0700
WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit
your delete button.
Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my
yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower
seeds!
 When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was alerted
when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in
your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were,
indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left
most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating
themŠ. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so.
In fact, there were twelve of them ­ an entire flock. And
beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly
all the same species.
I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see
most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at:
http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL

(Particularly nice are photos # P16  P15)

I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue
heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with
a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of
some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh
colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I
could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely
escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have
bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed
Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil,
Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped
flock that have naturalized in the area.
It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one
hears of them appearing here  there on occasion. Usually,
however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species
of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having
escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence
I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same
species.
In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers
next year!
Best wishes, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual

2003-09-09 Thread Charlie Devine
Michael and list,

Here in southern New England there exists groups of Monk parrots.  These
parrots are, I believe, native to Argentina.  The predominant theory is
that they escaped from ships in New York city.  They have been here in
Rhode Island, year round mind you, for at least 15 years.  I first saw
one of the groups, for they have multiplied into many colonies over the
years, on a Xmas morning at my parent's house where I saw 7 of them
sitting on the backyard clothesline in a snowstorm!  Had never heard of
them, but soon a large colony took up residence in a neighbor's tree.
Each pair of parrots has a seperate chamber in a huge communal nest.
When they came home to roost at dusk the din was incredible.  It would
suddenly sound like the jungle and I'd deadpan to any visitors oh,
that's just the parrots.  There's about 50 live in a tree out back.
They have since moved on but colonies still thrive here abouts and
elsewhere in New England I'm sure.

Charlie

---BeginMessage---
WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit
your delete button.

Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my
yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower
seeds! 
 When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was alerted
when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in
your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were,
indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left
most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating
themŠ. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so.
In fact, there were twelve of them ­ an entire flock. And
beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly
all the same species.
I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see
most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at:

http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL

(Particularly nice are photos # P16  P15)

I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue
heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with
a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of
some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh
colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I
could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely
escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have
bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed
Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil,
Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped
flock that have naturalized in the area.
It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one
hears of them appearing here  there on occasion. Usually,
however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species
of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having
escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence
I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same
species. 
In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers
next year! 
Best wishes, Michael

 


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[meteorite-list] Re: COMETS AUCTION - Another Update

2003-09-09 Thread Fredmeteorhall
 Also come see the printing press and type used by H. H. Nininger and Glenn Huss to educate the public about meteorites and Meteor Crater, along with one of the wooden crates used by H. H. Nininger to carry specimens (just wait until you see the crate painted with "Dr. H. H. Nininger" and other info painted onto the sides of the wood crate. And I will display the vinyl briefcases from the Meteoritical Society Meetings of 1976, 1986, 1987, 1988 and a hand tooled leather briefcase that belonged to Dr. H. H. Nininger.
High Regards, Fred Hall


[meteorite-list] Fwd: COMETS AUCTION - Another Update

2003-09-09 Thread Fredmeteorhall
 
---BeginMessage---
 
---BeginMessage---
 Also come see the printing press and type used by H. H. Nininger and Glenn Huss to educate the public about meteorites and Meteor Crater, along with one of the wooden crates used by H. H. Nininger to carry specimens (just wait until you see the crate painted with "Dr. H. H. Nininger" and other info painted onto the sides of the wood crate. And I will display the vinyl briefcases from the Meteoritical Society Meetings of 1976, 1986, 1987, 1988 and a hand tooled leather briefcase that belonged to Dr. H. H. Nininger.
High Regards, Fred Hall
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Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual

2003-09-09 Thread David Freeman
Dear Michael and List;
So, what is the bag limit and do they taste like chicken?
I have heard of black birds in a pie but parrots in a birthday cake?
Thank you all that wished me happy youthful five-Oh,

Yours truly,
Dave Freeman
Michael L Blood wrote:

WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit
your delete button.
   Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my
yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower
seeds! 
When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was alerted
when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in
your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were,
indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left
most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating
themS(. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so.
   In fact, there were twelve of them ­ an entire flock. And
beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly
all the same species.
   I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see
most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at:

http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL

(Particularly nice are photos # P16  P15)

   I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue
heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with
a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of
some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh
colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I
could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely
escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have
bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed
Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil,
Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped
flock that have naturalized in the area.
   It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one
hears of them appearing here  there on occasion. Usually,
however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species
of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having
escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence
I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same
species. 
   In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers
next year! 
   Best wishes, Michael



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RE: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual

2003-09-09 Thread Charles R. Viau
Check out those parrot ID's - supposedly, Jimmy Buffet's is still
missing, reportedly stolen last year, but he never got it back. Who
knows, perhaps that bird got tired of bagged seeds and listening to the
same songs over and over again :^)

CharlyV 

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Hey Mikey,
I'm from  Brasil (true spelling) and all OFF TOPIC'S  should
be 
so fascinating. I wish I could've seen the feathery and colorful 
illegals(joke).Even parrot's are COMIN TO AMERICA like the Neil
Diamond 
Global Hit Song. But it's the warm climate in San Diego, which is
similar to 
parts of South America that has allowed them to survive and will
probably 
propagate . The will pass by your house again . The species has homing 
capabilities- to known food sources. Let's hope some ignorant rural's
don't 
shoot them out of the sky. In Brasil we would all come out of our school

rooms when hundreds flew noisily overhead.It was like a living rainbow- 
coollest thing to see. Real nice OFF TOPIC.
Now, back to fusion crusted  birds of another kind- METEORITES  {:-)
*#0583 - OUT


From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 11:10:43 -0700

WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit
your delete button.

 Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my
yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower
seeds!
  When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was
alerted
when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in
your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were,
indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left
most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating
them. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so.
 In fact, there were twelve of them  an entire flock. And
beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly
all the same species.
 I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see
most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at:

http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL

(Particularly nice are photos # P16  P15)

 I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue
heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with
a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of
some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh
colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I
could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely
escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have
bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed
Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil,
Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped
flock that have naturalized in the area.
 It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one
hears of them appearing here  there on occasion. Usually,
however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species
of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having
escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence
I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same
species.
 In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers
next year!
 Best wishes, Michael




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[meteorite-list] Shipping theft IE HIGH CHARGES

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Farmer



I am in shock. I have just spent the evening 
perusing ebay, looking at sellers shipping charges. It is pathetic. I truly hope 
that the buyers on this list look around at prices and realize that many so 
called "dealers" are blatantly ripping people off with shipping charges. I find 
it pathetic. If you are a seller with constant ebay auctions, you have no right 
to charge outrageous shipping charges. I do not charge for my time, my daily 
trips to the post office. Selling and shipping meteorites is my business. I just 
saw one dealer who is on this list, selling a 1 gram Taza stone and adding $3.85 
shipping charge. It costs .45 cents to ship and maybe .20 cents for the 
envelope. NET gain for the dealer $3.00 profit on the shipping alone. 

 If you buy from people who rip 
you off on the shipping, you deserve to lose your money. 
Mike Farmer


Re: [meteorite-list] Shipping theft IE HIGH CHARGES

2003-09-09 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 9/9/2003 11:09:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I just saw one dealer who is on this list, selling a 1 gram Taza stone and adding $3.85 shipping charge. It costs .45 cents to ship and maybe .20 cents for the envelope. NET gain for the dealer $3.00 profit on the shipping alone. 

unless it is shipped by Priority Mail then the dealer is making $0 on shipping. I don't know about you but I ship practically everything in the States by Priority Mail, safer and quicker.
BTW: I did not take the time to go search Ebay to see who you are talking about, just a tad busy right now.

Anne M. Black
www. IMPACTIKA.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Shipping theft IE HIGH CHARGES

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Farmer



Anne and all, that is a waste, tiny items shipped 
priority? I have found over the last 7 years of doing this that first class 
almost always arrives just as timely. 
Of course, as long as you send that way and charge 
that then it is ok. I am talking more about the people who charge one rate and 
send at a lower weight. I have had several emails from clients of mine who 
discuss this about other dealers. 
Mike Farmer

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:35 
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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shipping 
  theft IE HIGH CHARGES
  In a message dated 
  9/9/2003 11:09:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: 
  I just saw one dealer who is on this list, selling a 1 gram Taza 
stone and adding $3.85 shipping charge. It costs .45 cents to ship and maybe 
.20 cents for the envelope. NET gain for the dealer $3.00 profit on the 
shipping alone. unless it is shipped by Priority Mail 
  then the dealer is making $0 on shipping. I don't know about you but I ship 
  practically everything in the States by Priority Mail, safer and quicker. 
  BTW: I did not take the time to go search Ebay to see who you are talking 
  about, just a tad busy right now. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356 



Re: [meteorite-list] Shipping theft IE HIGH CHARGES

2003-09-09 Thread Tom aka James Knudson



Hello Mike and list , I am by no mean's a dealer but I have 
sold a few. I believe you should keep shipping costs to a minimum for the buyer. 
I personally don't like paying shipping that is higher than the cost of the 
meteorite.If the meteorite is small, unbreakable and inexpensive, I think 
a padded envelope is the way to go. If the meteorite is a large inexpensive 
slice that could be easily broken, it should be sent in a box, first class. But 
if you gust bought a $400+slice of lunar rock, I think the extra for priority is 
the way to go. 
 One nice thing about priority is all your boxes and 
supplies are free from the USPS. Also, If the meteorite is under one pound, you 
can send it for $3.85, so I see no reason for anyone in the US to charge more 
than $3.85 for shipping. Like mike said, Handling should be your own 
responsibility. When I charge $3.85 you can be sure that is how much I am 
spending on shipping.
Thanks, TomPeregrineflier The proudest member of the 
IMCA 6168

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  Michael Farmer 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:06 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Shipping theft 
  IE HIGH CHARGES
  
  I am in shock. I have just spent the evening 
  perusing ebay, looking at sellers shipping charges. It is pathetic. I truly 
  hope that the buyers on this list look around at prices and realize that many 
  so called "dealers" are blatantly ripping people off with shipping charges. I 
  find it pathetic. If you are a seller with constant ebay auctions, you have no 
  right to charge outrageous shipping charges. I do not charge for my time, my 
  daily trips to the post office. Selling and shipping meteorites is my 
  business. I just saw one dealer who is on this list, selling a 1 gram Taza 
  stone and adding $3.85 shipping charge. It costs .45 cents to ship and maybe 
  .20 cents for the envelope. NET gain for the dealer $3.00 profit on the 
  shipping alone. 
   If you buy from people who rip 
  you off on the shipping, you deserve to lose your money. 
  Mike Farmer