Re: [meteorite-list] Is there room for a meteorite question ?

2003-12-09 Thread E. L. Jones
Hello Lars, The cooling speed must remain within the limits of a few degrees per million years for the nickel atoms to migrate and align. I think the temperature bands where Widmanstätten pattern (i.e. taenite/kamacite lattices) can occur is between 1400° and 800°C. (pressure relative).

RE: [meteorite-list] Is there room for a meteorite question ?

2003-12-09 Thread mark ford
On the same note, thermal expansion... Presumably as the core solidifies (cools down) it would contract, would it not?, what effect would that have on the crystalline structure (widmanstatten) would there be a gradual stress/distortion in the taenite/kamacite boundries ? I guess as the

[meteorite-list] ADD - Great Bargains still remain

2003-12-09 Thread Jim Strope
Hi all Ebay auctions ending tonight. I can not believe some of the pricesespecially a 52 gram specimen of OCHANSK Russia at currently only $1.75 per gram. I can show you two dealer's websites that have this at $10- per gram. You could buy it, smash it with a hammer and sell if for

[meteorite-list] top ten positive

2003-12-09 Thread joseph_town
Hi all, These are only the impressions of a newbie. I tried to come up with a list of the 10 contributors that had the most positive affect on me. Yes, believe it or not new people come here and expect an education of sorts. I died laughing when I saw the first Tom thing. I only saw a small

[meteorite-list] Something for Everybody

2003-12-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
List: The problem with giving good advice to those that need it most, is that if they had the wit to recognize it as good advice, they wouldn't have needed that particular advice in the first place, and if they don't get it, they won't get it, et cetera... Matteo: We've noticed that

[meteorite-list] Saw One Fireball

2003-12-09 Thread CalSouth1
Well, I finally got to see a small fireball during twilight tonight at 5:26 PST. In the NE Quad about 15 deg. above the horizon and streaking due East. After it entered the atmosphere, it lasted for about 3 seconds and I saw a few particles fall off and trail behind. Bright green and white

[meteorite-list] ADD - Great Bargains still remain

2003-12-09 Thread Jim Strope
Hi all Ebay auctions ending tonight. I can not believe some of the pricesespecially a 52 gram specimen of OCHANSK Russia at currently only $1.75 per gram. I can show you two dealer's websites that have this at $10- per gram. You could buy it, smash it with a hammer and sell if

Re: [meteorite-list] My Top 10 of classic meteorites for Beginners

2003-12-09 Thread j . divelbiss
Martin and others, Martin, with your list you have captured my thought that started this thread. What classic meteorites are first rate, recommended and available to collectors, and as rocks should remain stable in our lifetime. Mark Bostick, your list list also captured this thought. Other

Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Matteo, you are sucha friggin idiot, in one sentance you talk about my Mocs being too high, and you pay less, in the next whining about prices and how you wont give away the meterial, WHICH IS IT, you cant have it both ways, either prices are too high or two low, what the $#$#$#$ do you want to

[meteorite-list] test test test

2003-12-09 Thread David Freeman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer

2003-12-09 Thread joseph_town
Don Matteo. Self appointed godfather of meteorites. His iron hand has a limitless reach. Beware. Bill Kieskowski Honestly Matteo, As far as cowards go , I wonder if you would really say all the things that you say if you werent oceans apart from the rest of us. B.E. - Original

[meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names

2003-12-09 Thread Fredmeteorhall
Hello Collectors; I'd be hard pressed to pick only ten of my favorite meteorites as I have so many that impress me with their internal or external structure, shape or beauty. But as to the names of meteorites, well, here are my top ten names: 1. Apex (At the top of my list.) 2. Answer (What's the

[meteorite-list] unusual ebay listing for Christmas! AD iron bomb fragments

2003-12-09 Thread David Freeman
Dear Listees; For your metal detector fun, I have listed at ebay, a lot of iron cubes that would make great detector testing items, or for fun with your detector buddies when you all get your detectors out to search for meteorites. Feeling a little devilish this holiday season. Best, Dave

Re: [meteorite-list] Old Roman coins

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Hutton
extract from the Catalogue of the Ward-Coonley collection of meteorites, by Henry A. Ward. 1904 edition. XI. MEDALS OF METEORITES. The people of antiquity looked upon the heavenly bodies as the places of abode of gods and being higher than mankind. Thus it came to pass that they gave divine

Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry

2003-12-09 Thread j . divelbiss
Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy

[meteorite-list] ah for the old days

2003-12-09 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Ahh how I wish for the old days.Where are THE STRUCK ONES when you need them the most.I guess the are under wriathThis is like a never ending soap opera.Hey everyone needs to be in the care of THE STRUCK ONES! steve arnold, chicago = Steve

Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!

2003-12-09 Thread John Gwilliam
Please DO hold your breath...for about 15 minutes. John Gwilliam PO Box 26954 Tempe, AZ 85282 At 03:18 PM 12/8/03 -0500, Jim Strope wrote: Don't hold your breath. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original

[meteorite-list] Satirize me! Satirize me!!

2003-12-09 Thread tracy latimer
I hereby give permission to satirize me in any meteoritical fashion in a website; sorry, I haven't gotten far enough out of the dark ages yet to have a photo digitized. Wait until Tucson. :-P Tracy Latimer _ Get holiday tips for

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?

2003-12-09 Thread David Hathaway
Thanks for your help everyone.. Here are the answers to various questions I received. Looks like the going opinion is that is just a rock though. Q: Does yours streak black? (And I mean REALLY black.) A: Does not streak at all. Very hard rock. Q: See if you can estimate its density. A: Not sure

Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry

2003-12-09 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, My best guess to the author of Proud Tom, I will not tell, but his are initials J.S. Just a guess but I think I am right! If Old J.S. is the author, I wanted him to know I think he has done a great Job : ) If J.S. is not the author, well who ever is, is doing a great Job! Thanks,

Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer

2003-12-09 Thread David Freeman
Dear List, Joseph; I spent some time at the Met Society web site last evening, quite special...though didn't see Matteo's name listed anywhere. DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Matteo. Self appointed godfather of meteorites. His iron hand has a limitless reach. Beware. Bill Kieskowski

RE: [meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names

2003-12-09 Thread mark ford
Fred, lol Your post it made me Wonder whether we should run a light hearted 'competition for the best sounding fictitious meteorite name!?' Here are my contributions 'Upshit creek' 'Bond 007' 'South Park Forest' 'Mill-Hill-Billy' C'mon I am sure some of you can do better? Mark

Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry

2003-12-09 Thread Jim Strope
No, not me. I wish I could take credit as he sure has a good sense of humor. Plus, I know one list member who offered a case of beer and free meal at the Tucson Show for who ever it is. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites

Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry

2003-12-09 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello Jim Strope! You have the same initials as the guy I was thinking of but it is not you! I tried to think if there was anyone else with the initials JS and forgot about you, sorry : 0 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original

[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello to all ( nearly ) I have open a new meteorite group where nearly all it invites to participate. Many have received the demand via email, the others will be able to be enrolled visiting the site here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RealMetCollectors/ for subscribe send a email to this

Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry

2003-12-09 Thread DNAndrews
Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello Jim Strope! You have the same initials as the guy I was thinking of but it is not you! I tried to think if there was anyone else with the initials JS and forgot about you, sorry : 0 I know Jack Schitt! ;-)

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names

2003-12-09 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Those are good Dave, I thought we change the name of the Sikhote-Alin meteorite to Sikhote-Ivan. Also, Something that has been bothering Proud Tom, the IMCA rules, say we have to properly label our meteorites, Proud Tom thinks each Nantan should have a label that states made in china

Re: [meteorite-list] My Top 10 of classic meteorites for Beginners

2003-12-09 Thread David Freeman
Dear Martin, List; I really like the first couple of CLASSIC lists and then it started getting a little more of a my martian favorite is a better idea. Yah, yah, yah. I would prefer to corrupt to Getting started, the Beginners Collection . All three SNC's are not in a beginner collection

[meteorite-list] Tucson Auctions???

2003-12-09 Thread Dave Schultz
Greetings. I know that this might be a little off topic these days, but I was just wondering, with only 2 months to go till Tucson that I haven`t seen any adds or anything anywhere else about Michael Blood`s Auction or The Macovich [Darrly Pitt] Auction listed anywhere? Shouldn`t we be seeing

[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread LITIG8NSHARK
Good morning Folks, I've remained silent regarding these recent threads until now. I am shaking my head in disbelief. Is all this really necessary Matteo? Personal differences between membersaside, I hate to see the disintegration, or attempted fracturing,of a group which, in the recent past

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread Jim Strope
Don't worry Paul. Based on the recent posts against Matteo's views, I doubt he will have many people follow him. So he can have a group all by himself..and that's a good thing! Jim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
It is necessary why by now, for guilt of that I know, it has put in turn false voices here on my account, creating a sense of distrust from part of that a once I considered my friends. This group that I have opened collects the true friends, those that deserve my respect. As far as the others,

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
you are in mistake type your good friend --- Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry Paul. Based on the recent posts against Matteo's views, I doubt he will have many people follow him. So he can have a group all by himself..and that's a good thing! Jim -

[meteorite-list] BORING !!!

2003-12-09 Thread Ing. Christian ANGER
Dear folks, members and friends !!! - especially to everyone I know in person out there in USA, Europe, Asia, Russia, Africa ! X-mas is near - the time to get into peace and freedom please stop all this non-topic conversations I am missing to hear about meteoritics : I heard about a new

[meteorite-list] Re: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread Rob Wesel
Does that mean you will be leaving the Met Central list Matteo? Rob Wesel - Fairies still the smiles and the struck ones - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Collectors [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Collectors

[meteorite-list] Ebay ADD, sale tonight, 50 items almost all one cent!

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Hi again, as usual, my ebay items are almost all started at one cent. Some nice items up tonight, inlcuding a large Gibeon individual started at one cent! $3000.00 piece up for grabs by highest bidder. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2209123712category=3239rd=1

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Group

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Miconi
How Mussolini of you.Who would want to associate themselves with you. Why not take a big deep breath and hold it till we all apply to be on your list? Here is a hintyour dirty bathwater is not for drinking. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] Re: Petrographic Microscope article/book

2003-12-09 Thread Mikestockj
Hi List I just received my Nov.-Dec. issue of the Mineralogical Record. Surprisingly it had a supplement included titled "The Petrographic Microscope Evolution of a Mineralogical Research Instrument" by Daniel E. Kile. Anytime the Mineralogical Record produces anything they do it masterfully.

[meteorite-list] a list hosted by matteo?

2003-12-09 Thread joseph_town
Sounds pretty grimunless Matteo is really Proud Tom. That would be the greatest gag since Mussolini. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] HUGE NWA METEORITE EBAY SALE

2003-12-09 Thread dean bessey
I would like to start by taking this opportunity to thank steve Shoener for creating a ebay meteorite discussion group. The worlds biggest ebay hater has come around and now loves ebay so much that he started a special discussion group. (Sorry, I couldent resist). Anyway, on sunday I got 452 kilos

[meteorite-list] US going back to the moon????

2003-12-09 Thread Randy Mils
Top 11 reasonsBUSH wants to go to the moon: 11. Even his imagination is 40 years behind. 10. His ranch has even more barren landscapes than those used to film the "moon landings" at LBJ's. 9. Just finished reading "Goodnight, Moon." 8. Halliburton lobbying to "rebuild" it. 7. Running

Re: [meteorite-list] BORING !!!

2003-12-09 Thread meteoriteshow
100% agree with you Christian ! Frederic Beroud www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: Ing. Christian ANGER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] BORING !!! Dear folks, members and

Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Miconi
Matteo, You could not be more wrong about anything and everything. You have clearly shown that there is no limit to human ignorance and no matter what I will NEVER buy a single thing from you. You have absolutely no credibility with me or most of this list. Why do you not just crawl back into

[meteorite-list] Re: Identity of Proud Tom

2003-12-09 Thread Dave Harris
Hi folks, I have to say, that as much as I hate the venom that we have witnessed onthe metlist, if Proud Tom is the result, then it will all have been worth it! Personally I haven't a clue who is responsible - I'd love to think it was Bernd, but somehow I just can't imagine it, but if it was -

[meteorite-list] I am back (test)

2003-12-09 Thread Steve Schoner
I was cut off the list for whatever reason as I was gone over this last week. This is a test. Steve Schoner/ams __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __

Re: [meteorite-list] BORING !!!

2003-12-09 Thread WAHLPERRY
Hi Christian I to would like to here more about the new meteorites and stories. This is a great list ! Let's keep it that way. Thanks Sonny

[meteorite-list] 1907 Ash Fall in Nome Alaska not Volcanic(?)

2003-12-09 Thread Robert Verish
http://www.explorenorth.com/library/weekly/more/bl-nomeash.htm Ash Fall in Nome Related Events Norman Kagan has searched issues of the Nome Nugget (NN) prior to October 21, 1910, and and Nome Gold Digger (GD) of 1907 for articles of possible meteorite strikes or related events, and has

Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry

2003-12-09 Thread j . divelbiss
I have to believe most of us don't know Jack. JD Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello Jim Strope! You have the same initials as the guy I was thinking of but it is not you! I tried to think if there was anyone else with the initials JS and forgot about you, sorry : 0 I know

[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Thank You for Your Report (SafeHarbor)

2003-12-09 Thread David Freeman
Dear Lists; There Baacck! Please report any ebay fake emails asking for infomation to SafeHarbor for further investigation. Best, Dave Freeman Original Message Subject: Thank You for Your Report (SafeHarbor) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:26:17 -0800 From: eBay SPAMMED Mail

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Times Calvin

2003-12-09 Thread Rob Wesel
Can Calvin of Calvin's Reflections please contact me. Thanks. Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] Belated Weekly invitation to eBayMeteorites.

2003-12-09 Thread Steve Schoner
Hello all, Due to the death of my mother last week, I was not able to post the weekly invite this last Sunday. So here it is. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/ Eight new members were welcomed bringing the listing to 50. The unstated purpose of this is to present a format for

Re: [meteorite-list] Saw One Fireball

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Miconi
That was my wife's wallet re-entering the atmosphere after her out of this world spending spree for Xmas! Mark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw One

Re: [meteorite-list] US going back to the moon????

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Miconi
Oh no not another Democrat! When you all gonna quit SNIVELLING and find a real candidate for the election? Look at it as another reason for you all to tax and spend. At least Al Gore finally got out from under the bed he climbed under on 9/11now if he only knew the difference between

[meteorite-list] top 10 members of the matteo met-list

2003-12-09 Thread joseph_town
1. Sponge Bob. Square pants are optional. He can search the ocean floor. 2. That Bin what's his face guy. He must have a lot of desert connections. 3. Johhny Depp. That doesn't require much imagination. 4. Pee Wee Herman. Press secretary. 5. Fidel Castro. How many Cuban meteorites have been

Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!

2003-12-09 Thread GT40dawg
Please take my name off of the list. These senseless debates could have easily taken place off list. Somebody e-mail me when it is a good time to subscribe again (i.e. when meteorites and tektites are the predominant subject). It's time to hit the eject button. Randy in N.O.

[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock? foundary plug]

2003-12-09 Thread E. L. Jones
Hello David, For all my experience in researching old mines and old furnaces, it is trough plug from a foundry operation. Some foundries, especially older ones that didn't have overhead cranes and large crucibles have channels in the floor from the furnace to a bank(tree) of molds. The

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Identity of Proud Tom

2003-12-09 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hey All, Like I said, I think I know who it is. A list member posted this on Sat, 06 Sep 2003 21:53:48 -0500; That is a great theory Tom. Is it all your own work? You should be very Proud. Talking of IQ's here is a cool IQ test that everyone can try out. Re-arrange the following words to make a