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SPIRIT UPDATE: Grinding, Take Two - sol 58, Mar 02, 2004
On sol 58, which ends at 7:52 p.m., PST on March 2, the planned four-hour
rock abrasion tool grind of "Humphrey" was limited to only 20 minutes. The
intricate slopes and cracks of the ro
h.. In a vacuum, Galileo proved that a feather
and a rock fell at the same rate. 32 ft per second per second. ( gravity )
The difference outside of a vacuum depends on the
density of air i.e sea level.. or airplane altitude.. Air currents.. temperature
and shape of the item.
Termin
LOL Wu
Am bundling up my meteorites and hiding them under
the... oh No you don't.. Not gonna part me from them that easily. Remind
me to charge you higher prices next time ...
Rosie
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From:
Howard Wu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, Ma
Hola Rob,
You're right about the terminal velocity of a chondrite, in the shape of a bowling ball being much faster than a conventional bowling ball. This might still be a little counter intuitive, but, here are some 9 inch diameter bowling ball terminal velocities (there's a lot of algebra behin
What this statement means is that it is not going to be offered for sale to
the public at $2.80 a gram when $5.00 a gram was paid in the field. This
stunt was pulled in the past in order for one dealer to prove a point to
another without consideration for collectors and other dealers who took a
l
.Since meteorites are a non-essential commodity, if theprice is too high, people simply go without.
Rob are you kinding! They are more addictive than Heroin.
Howard
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I have meet Steve Arnold of Chicago. I sense no malficience in Steve, though he is an agent of chaos. He just a crazed pasionate hobbiest, not a proffesional dealer. And he's just as likely to lose money on his meteorite churnings as he is to gain. I like him personally but I not above criticizi
Hi All,
On the subject of meteorite economics, I have a couple comments --
actually, more ~reminders~, since this ground has been covered many
times before. I'm going to use Adam's recent e-mail as a talking
point since it mentions the key issues that come up again and again
on meteorites and pri
Hello list.I just got done talking to keith about what happened today.We
settled our problem, and all is fair again.I made a mistake on something,
and some things were assumed.It just took a little talking to.From now on,
we will be more precise,and cooler heads will prevail.
Bill, not that we need to explain anything to you, we will address your
question since you were compelled to ask it on the List in the middle of a
so-called firestorm.
What this statement means is that it is not going to be offered for sale to
the public at $2.80 a gram when $5.00 a gram was paid
Hi
Doug,
Good
point on the density of a bowling ball. Intuitively, I would have
guessed
the
density was around 2 g/cm^3, when in fact it is barely above 1 g/cm^3
--
about
1.15 for a 16-lb ball (the mass I was assuming).
An ordinary chondrite
of
the same size would weigh close to 50 l
Another way to make this more "intuitive" is to imagine sticking a bowling ball out the window of a car traveling 155 mph. Do you think that 14 pounds of air resistance would be on it? Imagine at over 300 mph (the 140 m/s you mentioned).
Saludos
Doug
En un mensaje con fecha 03/02/2004 6:57:27 P
Good evening list.I was on the phone with a local collecter, and we were
talking about a few things, and he said, do you know that you are being
ripped on the meteorite list?And I said, no.What are you talking about?He
said that someone is very unhappy about the ebay trans action you sent
them.The
Uh, Mike, those weren't my words (except for the first two lines where I
said I was passing the message to the list from Ronnie.) And I believe
his reference to Ambrose/Ashworth comments was referring to exchanges
made on the list months ago. Please don't shoot the messenger.
Chauncey
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On the subject of
dropping objects from high places:
> On
Feb. 13 a single-engine Cessna flew low over the Utah desert toward the
>
Bonneville Seabase at 80 knots. Pilot Patrick Wiggins checked his
altimeter.
> As planned, he was just 820 feet (250 meters)
above the surface.
At
this
"We are not too worried about you -damaging the market- this time with your
share
that only amounts to a few hundred grams after you divide it up with your
investors."
Well, I don't smoke hash and I still see exactly what this statement implies.
Bill Kieskowski
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Keith,
I find that your email offensive and inappropriate. It appears to me that
you have not given Steve enough time to respond to your concerns and you are
using the list to slander him.
You say you emailed him and he did not respond. Have you considered that he
may not have received your ema
A brief of this (current from space.com) was already posted to the list (Bob V. / Ron B.) as some onlookers mouths dropped in disbelief. Personally it sounded like much fun and that there is plenty to learn from observing terminal velocitied meteoroid like objects smashing into the ground and stud
now chauncy, I suggest you pass this on to Mr
Mckenzie. I NEVER ONCE posted one negative word
regarding David Ambrose, if you can find it, I will
eaqt my words sir.
Mr Ambrose was nothing but nice, and I know that he
gave the money to build schools.
Now, there was mr Ashworthy, another British c
Hi List
Here is the next reversal of auction prices. How many more will there be and when will it end...you just never know. Grab them while they are still available.
Make sure you check out the books at the bottom of the list. Some are used and some are brand new.Shipping is free on purchases ov
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Hello list,
I bought twice from Steve: nice items, fast shipping, nothing negative
- positive feedbacks.
Peter Marmet
Bernhard \"Rendelius\" Rems wrote:
Ok, I think that it is time to say something positive
about Steve. I
have had about 20 transactions with him over the last 8 months,
and
the
Ok, I think that it is time to say something positive about Steve. I
have had about 20 transactions with him over the last 8 months, and
there was only one problem that was corrected by him pretty fast. Other
than that, all bids I won were exactly what he offered (and some GREAT
deals amongst them
Dear All,
I don't know why you penny pinchers continue to purchase from someone
who doesn't adhere to good IMCA practices.
I have no compassion for you.
Scales is one, no reference books, what other clues do you need?
Anyone to tight to throw in a riker mount box to keep customers happy
shou
Is Steve up to his bad boy behavor again? I thought last time we took him to the woodshed, we'd straightened him out.
Grow up Steve!! And you continue to pinch meteorites, buy a scale.
http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?ht=1&satitle=gram+scale&sosortorder=1&sosortproperty=3
Howard
i too have heard that this should be avoided.
>From: "Arizona Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [meteorite-list] avoid 11 new ebay auctions- can IMCA help?
>Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:48:57 -0700
>
>Hello List
>
>Avoid
Hello List
Avoid Steve Arnold of Chicago auctions, unless you want to be ripped off.
I just got the stuff from I won from Steve Arnold Chicago weeks ago.
First he shows the meteorite in a Riker boxes in his auctions, but I never
got the boxes, items showed up in plastic bags.
He never stated tha
In a message dated 02/03/2004 18:03:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, what's the Mars news that is so secret, Stromatolites? Banded Irons?
Frozen water? Who knows sompthin?
Take a wander over to the Forums (specifically Unmanned Probes / Spirit & Opportunity 1 / 2 / 3 & 4 ) a
Dear List,
So, what's the Mars news that is so secret, Stromatolites? Banded Irons?
Frozen water? Who knows sompthin?
Inquiring mind wants to know, I have all three for sale!
DAve F.
mjwy
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Hi all,
I am hoping someone out there can help me. I am selling the
collection of the late Richard Learn. He has a beautiful specimen
identified only as "yet unnamed NWA - LL3? TKW 660g found
2000."
Can anyone identify a killer NWA found in 2000 with a TKW of
660g?
I am sur
In a message dated 28/02/2004 01:13:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The microscopic imager also took three sets of observations of the hole
created by the rock abrasion tool on sol 30. Opportunity later took
stereo images of the rock area named "Maya"
Does anyone know if this "ar
- Original Message -
From: Michael
Cottingham
To: Michael Cottingham
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:53 AM
Subject: 120 Auctions Ending Today!
Hello Everyone,
120 Auctions Ending Today! Also Check out My
Ebay Store:
Voyage Botanica Natural History for other great
deals!
Go
Chauncey and list, Chauncey wrote: "Prof Ambrose is an academic who had no interest in the commercial value of the meteorite and was only interested in cataloging the material and documenting the fall from a purely scientific viewpoint." I would like to add that Prof. Ambrose did a great job
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Since he was "mentioned in dispatch" so to speak, Ronnie McKenzie has
asked me to post this to the list for him:
In response to the recent mis-information posted by Mr Farmer I feel
compelled to clarify the record on Thuathe for a second and hopefully
last time - obviously he either didn't read
Hi
Ethylene Oxide was rejected as a viable sterilization method on the
Viking lander missions, so am I right in assuming they (NASA) have
changed that idea?
(It's just that they found viable microorganisms after treating with
Ethylene Oxide...)
Mark Ford
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From: st
Hi List,
Thanks for all of your responses to my question. You are all a great source of information.
Sonny
Hi Howard and all,
Howard Wu wrote:
Those professional desert dealers in town spiking prices upward each
year, however is another story...screw them. Tell them a Michael Blood's
declining market doldrum story. How else will they get rid of these rocks.
They
can't eat them.
Well sad to say when I
Hi List,
I must agree with the members that ask that the interchange between two
*warriors* are kept private.
I really would like to keep the members on the list that have genuine
interest in meteorites and promoting only the good parts of it. Also I
really would enjoy having Bernd come back, b
Greetings list:
I think if you take great passion for meteorites, throw in large amounts of money, mix in a large dose of pride and ego, add the complexities and stresses of finding/aquiring the stones, blend in varying degrees of stone rarity and the sciences involved, and finally top off with w
Good morning list.I have uploaded 11 new auctions with 10 of them starting
at $1.00.The other is a gorgeous 1.6 kilo piece of GIBEON.They are up for
5 days only.Bid very ,very high and bid very,very often.
THANKS, steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
=
Steve R.Ar
En un mensaje con fecha 03/01/2004 6:18:57 PM Mexico Standard Time, todo el mundo escribe:
>Why is it that with every new fall it brings the worst out in some people?
A very interesting question, too bad it was only rhetorical so far.
My head is REALLY hurting badly from the latest interchanges
on 3/2/04 12:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> maybe after reading the above you now agree
> with me?
> You'd have had a better chance if you hadn't called me "dearest". (I work in
> the theatre biz but one shouldn't assume stereotypes) ;-)
>
> Gregory
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Dearest Gregory, >>
Uh, oh.
<< You are right on on some things and way off on others. >>
Story of my life, except for the "right on some things" part.
<< It is that "tone" of the discussion to which Iwas protesting, not the content, itself. >>
I don't like pointle
Any hallucinations of "price fixing" are worthy of a hash pipe.
my two cents as a buyer: price fixing isnt something that requires multiple
parties to be involved in, given the relativly small and exotic nature of
the buisness / hobby of meteorites. If a dealer buys all of a particular
find, th
Have all other groups sterilized previous martian landers? if not then the
planet has already been contaminated.
Whasnt it LDEF that came back home and much to scientists surprise
terrestrial organisms that werent removed from the structure (ie they were
NOT intended payloads) prior to launch h
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